What's the cost of Manhattan or other cities flooding? Once? Repeatedly? When will they be given up?

Never. Just look at Venice.

And they *will* be flooded. Maybe not this century, but AGW will not magically stop in 2100 if we continue to emit lots of CO2.

Even IF that were true (and revised predictions reveal the dramatic rise in sea levels were utter bunk) it would not matter, because if the seas really did start to rise in a serious manner mankind would be able to apply some technological fix to the problem. They have before and they will again.

You are talking about something 90 years hence, when the world will be sporting unimaginable abilities thanks to technological advancements. Are you truly so ignorant of history that you would even imagine there were not several levers mankind could pull at that point to work around or eliminate the problem of the sea shifting a few feet?

If no-one else, the Dutch would laugh openly at your worrying.

skeptics will agree to is one that says: "There is no impact on global warming by human actions"

I am someone who demands scientific evidence (brand that as skeptic if you must). But I do to agree with your statement. Obviously we might POSSIBLY be having some impact. But I have not seen a clear indication of how much (since CO2 levels seem to vary quite well with simple ocean temperatures), or indeed if it matters at all if we are adding CO2.

The point is that a change in composition of 0.01% is actually quite high for CO2

it is "obviously" not as the supposed "huge increase" in CO2 levels has led to very little actual warming for the climate overall.

The fears of some kind of runaway reaction have been totally debunked.

As for the climate getting slowly warmer, as a species we would be very lucky if that is actually the case - but it's too soon to tell, people are trying to use year to year swings to guess what the climate will be like 100 years hence, and so far utterly botched even a simple five or ten year prediction. When those start getting even close, I will listen to the people who have actually come up with decent models for what is happening.

But they forgot you can't win at the uninformed easily seduced consumer market that apple owns.

The problem with that theory is that a LOT of very technical people were the ones that adopted Apple laptops early and propelled them to success.

Similarity for the iPhone a lot of the early users I knew were very technical people who could understand the benefits offered.

You don't seem very technically inclined yourself or you would have observed the percentage of MacBooks at technical conferences/gatherings...

It also helps if you can outsource this manufacturing to a place where you can treat the workers in a way that would be illegal in your primary market.

RIM didn't seem to be helped by this.

Oh wait, you meant APPLE. Except that Apple is the only company actually paying attention to worker conditions. Where are RIM's public investigations into worker treatment? Blackberrys could be built from the souls of 3rd world workers for all we know.

In fact, that would explain the first Torch rather well. *shudder*.

CO2 absolutely IS "pollution", in a sense: our atmosphere is supposed to be a balance of various gases: O2, CO2, N2, and some other trace gases.

However CO2 is ALSO a gas that is heavily regulation by the planets biomass. It's not "pollution" in that sense any more than oxygen is, it's one of the basic components of the atmosphere that the system is used to dealing with - the same cannot be said of high levels of true toxins which people more traditionally called pollution.

The question is: how much is too much?

I agree that is the basic question. What has not been happening is any kind of runaway effect from increases in CO2, given that I would say "too much" CO2 is more than humanity + volcanoes are capable of generating through normal emissions.

as long as things are kept small and local, it should give people a less-infinitesmal voice.

How does it give PEOPLE a less-infinitesmal voice, when the percentage of responses that are generated automatically by hackers will far outnumber real people?

Yes, even at a state level. Why would it not be so?

I cannot believe a CS professor came up with this plan, unless he basically has the polls pre-rigged for the result he desires and the polls are just there to lent legitimacy to his choices.

Christians today (since Christ's time, actually) are under a new covenant which we call the New Testament. The Old Testament is no longer applicable as law.

You are (sadly) mistaken. There is a reason the OT is included in Christian bibles.

"It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)

“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV)

Every single word of the OT was commanded by Jesus himself to be obeyed. Why this doesn't tell people that it's all a bunch of mythical hooey I will never understand.

If political leanings sway your view the more you know about the science involved, then obviously the subject under discussion is not really a science.

increasing levels of education make conservatives less likely to believe in factual positions that contradict their world-view.

The simplest answer is that people who learn more about how science works question the AGW agenda which early on stopped being science.

Wow, smarter people against having wool pulled over their eyes - who would have suspected THAT?

Meanwhile, the statist/left continue to manufacture the wool, and apply it "liberally" if you will (ha!) to themselves.