Your own link:

"We tried," the employee said. "We told people in her office that it wasn't a good idea. They were so uninterested that I doubt the secretary was ever informed." [emph. added]

You claimed she was DIRECTLY informed (as worded). This is why I ask for links: details matter.

if there was some sort of mechanism in place to do what the 2009 NARA and other rules required...

Those rules only specified they be stored on gov't systems, and said almost nothing about the technology and technique to do it. If she copied or CC'd gov't employees, she would be abiding by the law. I've explained this already.

SHE SAID THERE WASN'T.

There wasn't what?

It's perfectly reasonable to ask you if you found the prior investigation - which was run by HER party - to be likewise.

No it's not. The debate is not about GENERAL party accuracy. My debate points don't depend on prior partisan accuracy.

and those are the ones that show the date gaps, a matter which they (unlike her, with tens of thousand of mixed-in emails we'll never see) will be placing right in front of your nose to review.

Fine, I'll wait until they actually do so rather than rely on your or vague GOP claims. If details come out that smack her, fine. Until that happens, I'm not going to guess out of my ass.

As far as Jason Baron's comments, they are not explicitly connected to any specific text of the law. It's hard to tell if they are an opinion or not. I originally asked for specific laws, not opinions about them.

Dam straight! There needs to be a balance:

* Too much authority with too little accountability leads to abuse of power
* Too little authority with too much accountability leads to bureaucracy.

You curtail abuses of Authority by having Accountability

it's easy to spot since he calls one of the political party's out by name. There's still some weight to the NIMBY folks though. The trouble with nuclear, at least in America, is that it's damn near impossible to keep it safe. Sooner or later some venture capital firm notices how much money's being spent on safety and moves in with promises of "efficiency", takes over the plant operation and starts cutting back. That's really what the NIMBY crowd worries about, they're just not allowed to talk about it because those same venture capitalists are our ruling class. It's pretty much the same thing that happened in Japan. They knew the plants weren't safe but didn't want to spend the money. Big disaster, lots will die of cancers and the like, but nobody important go in trouble.

State Department IT staff are on the record having told her multiple times that her method of communicating was preventing them from archiving her official email as required.

Link to them. I don't believe you.

that somehow there was a magic link between her private server and some archiving mechanism at State?

I never claimed that. I don't know where you got that idea.

Do you consider the investigation run congress when it was controlled by HER own party (which established after spending millions of dollars looking into related things, that there were NO such records at State) to have also been polticized against her?

What's this question have to do with anything? I see no relation. And I already explained how no found records at the present is not the same as no records ever.

When the investigators looking into this say something, you and they know that they will be fact checked to death by her political operatives.

Politicians often spin for short-term gain and don't care about fact-checkers much.

In cases of private communications being mixed in with official ones, government archivists are supposed to look at ALL records

Where is this rule written?

When cornered you seem to get wordy. Please focus more instead of idle speculation about motivations. Motivation speculation is rarely useful info.

I think you missed the part about objecting to human activity rapidly changing the climate in destructive ways. It's not the mere fact that the climate changes people object to, it's the fact that some of us are doing to to enrich ourselves at the expense of others in the world and in the future.

Says who? There is no natural law that says wages+taxes are the end of it. In fact that isn't even the case today, where companies are required to provide things like safety equipment, toilet facilities and so forth. You are delusional if you think they do that stuff out of the kindness of their corporate hearts.

she's got lots of money. Also, she has connections with other folks who have lots of money. It's not echo chamber. She doesn't need a good record, just enough to bury the past. If you're old enough to remember Regan he didn't have much to run on, but his ad campaigns were _fantastic_. It's morning in America, and everything's just a little bit brighter because you voted for Regan...

Also people like to forget she basically won the California Gubernatorial race until an epic, almost legendary gaff during a debate cost her the election. Gerrymandering + voter suppression + money can get anyone or anything elected in America...

No, I'm saying companies should be responsible because they are a social construct, something that society finds beneficial and so allows within certain rules. In exchange of being able to place certain burdens on society and benefit from things like education, law and order, public roads etc. they are expected to contribute back. The most obvious way is through taxation, but also through laws that require them to treat employees a certain way even if it isn't the most profitable for them.

There is no right to profit, no right for companies to exist. They are not people, they are there to serve society and wouldn't exist without it.

I design products that need to run from batteries for at least 5 years. I can do a wake-on-IR that needs around 2.5uA and costs about 15p in parts (that's about 20 Euro cents). It's just a phototransistor, comparator and an RC circuit that makes sure it only reacts to fast edges from remote controls and not passing shadows etc.

It will come up in your Comp. Sci. education.

If it doesn't you have really bad teachers, or a really bad school.

All good programmers should understand the basics of one-way-hashes.

You can get one with a foot switch so you don't have to bend down. I use a few of those.

I've seen devices that use less than 1W in standby and have remote power control, but only in Japan. Given a few years the technology will filter down to the west. In Japan energy saving is a big selling point. People feel like they want to contribute to the country's efforts to save energy, particularly after Fukushima and because energy is expensive.

Are you really that lazy that you need a remote control for power on/off rather than using a physical switch, even if it costs you money? A lot of set top boxes and other crap devices pull 20-30W in standby. These consoles are actually pretty good in the scheme of things, which is a bit depressing.

I think that's the next step now. They can't seem to fix this problem by themselves, they need to be forced.

Children are the company's responsibility, to the extent that society requires it to be. Companies operate within the laws that society makes. If society says people get X days holiday per year, they get X days holiday and the company has no say in the matter. If society says that the employer must contribute X% to a pension then the employer must contribute X% to a pension, it's as simple as that.

You are completely insane. Seriously, your brain if fried if you think that is a rational argument.

People are not machines that society or corporations can use to perform required tasks. People are human beings with lives and freedom to choose. Any argument has to deal with that reality, and yours does not.

So you think video games are not social? How come 50% of gamers are now women?

Further, the Blumenthal story appears to be hearsay only. The hacker only claims they are legit. Nobody of respect has verified the hacker's full claim, to my knowledge.