Speaking of "creepy"...

APK, we're in the midst of a discussion based on facts and logic.

How could this involve you in any way, size, shape, or form?

The point being that if they'd given the entire project to Oracle, then the entire project would in fact be Oracle's responsibility. But they didn't, and so it isn't.

Actually, I posted this a bit hastily. What I should have said was something more like, "If they'd walked off the job as you advocate, they'd very likely be opening up Oracle to a lawsuit for breach of contract, and themselves to getting fired by Oracle for doing so."

Then the consultants were doing their jobs.

But it was not the consultants' job to do this. In fact, if they'd walked off the job as you advocate, they'd very likely be opening themselves up to a lawsuit for breach of contract.

Surely I'm not the only one who finds this ... well... a bit creepy?

APK, you really seem to believe that no-one can see that you (NOT some random ACs--YOU) are merely posting the same 3 or 4 trolls over and over again.

IOW, once again, you try to "prove" things by crapflooding.

And once again I remind you that I've no need to make AC responses to your trolls.

BTW, do you have some logical reason for targeting my most highly rated posts for your biggest crapflood attacks?

Especially since you've claimed that a higher moderation score makes a post less valid--in which case there's really no need for you to try to refute it, right?

You apparently don't understand how logic works.

Let's say you post something that makes some claim A.

I post a response which proves that A is false.

You then post B which is merely a copy of A.

Guess what? B is also false, and there's no need for me to repeat my response in order to prove that it is false.

IOW, repeating a falsehood does NOT make it true.

As I've already said: You have not yet offered the slightest, thinnest shred of evidence that this ever even happened.

Linking to your own previous claims about this does not provide such evidence.

Hey... I just realised that I *know* Jeremy Reimer.

I'll drop him a line after the holiday weekend and see what he has to say about all this.

I created a throwaway account purely to mock you, APK, because, for some *weeks* now, you've been surfing my posting history and crapflooding every discussion I post in.

It has been very obvious from the start that this was exactly what I was doing, and I've made no attempt whatsoever to disguise it. Anyone who cares to do so can check the record for himself and see that I'm telling the truth about this.

Whereas you keep going round making the same 3 or 4 trolls in response to each of my posts, trying to pretend that these trolls are posted by different people. However, anyone can see that they're all posted by ACs, and that they all re-use your words and links. Thus, you're fooling nobody... except perhaps yourself.

I have already explained why your crapflooding and spamvertisements are by definition off-topic. It's up to you to show where a single one of them was on-topic and you are never going to do this because it is simply not possible.

Don't misattribute that to me, as I wasn't the one who said it. (It's true that I happen to agree with the statement, but that is not the same thing as having said it.) In any case, your objection has already been answered numerous times. The fact that you continue to ignore these responses does not mean they weren't made or that they weren't valid.

We are still waiting for some evidence (other than your say-so) that this ever even happened. Until you offer such evidence, nobody is going to believe that it ever did happen anywhere outside your own fevered imagination.

As for me changing the subject, let's review that bit, shall we?

APK: "I live on my own since the 80's & have my own spot however, occasionally while travelling worldwide for work I lived TONS of spots in the world (or for play too of course) or between jobs..."
Zontar: "Name some of the 'spots' where you've lived outside the US, and tell us a little about them."
APK: [Posts a response with the subject line "Zontar *tries* to change the subject? LMAO!" in which he does not answer Zontar's question.]

The only conclusion that a reasonable person can make after seeing this is that APK lied about having travelled and lived outside the US.

You just keep linking to your own posts, as far as I can see.

You seem to have trouble understanding that linking to a copy of a falsehood does not make the falsehood true.

Dude, are you like 12 years old or something?

Once again: You've never offered even so much as the slightest shred of evidence that either of these guys ever had their sites yanked at all.

Until you offer some solid evidence that this even happened, nobody is going to believe you, it's that simple.

Until we see this story from a reputable 3rd party, we are going to assume that you're making shit up and that nothing of the sort ever happened at all.

Again, I remind you that linking to your own posts is not proof of anything.