So I'm driving long range... you want me to stop for 40 minutes to restore 80 percent of my max range... when if I were in a gas car it would take less than 5 minutes?
And that is with an 80,000 dollar electric car.
And you think you're winning the case that this is practical? HOW?
As to driving ranges... I routinely drive 200 miles round trip... practically every weekend.
Regardless your example is one of the worst possible examples because its an 80k car.
Why did you throw 80k at a car that you can get equivalent quality from a gas car that is half that price? Who is going to be able to afford that monster? That is fucking expensive car.
Seriously, you don't think I couldn't find a car that is equally nice with similar specs for about 40k or even less? Look at BMW, Mercedes, Lexus... if you like the imports... you can find MANY cheaper alternatives that are every bit as nice as the Model S.
Which means you're doing what... paying 40k for electric? Why? No really.
WHY are you doing that?
My belief is that you are "SAYING" you would do it for some reasons. But do you personally own an electric car? I doubt you do. Do you own a car at all? 50/50 on that. Is your car actually a gas car? If you have a car at all it almost certainly is gasoline. Why is your car a gas car?
I'm just guessing... the vast majority of people advocating these cars can't possibly actually own one. So I don't understand how they can be so gung ho for it when they don't put their wallet where their mouth is...
And to make matters funnier the stats show that many a lot of people that buy hybrids are replacing them with all gasoline cars now. The hybrids have been out for awhile... they wear out and people replace them. And so here we are... and what are they replacing their hybrids with? Gas cars.
I'd like a little less evangelism on the stupid electric cars and a little more pragmatism.
Here are some things that I think could make electric cars... really all cars more affordable. Make them more modular. Rather than trying to sell people on the new model... sell people on the new modules. Have a core standardized frame and rather than people buying a whole new car... maybe they buy a new engine, a new shell (the thin skin that sits on top of the frame),... just upgrades.
it would be cheaper and the car would be more of an investment because it wouldn't depreciate as hard.
Just an idea. I don't know if that would work but I think the 80k car concept might work better if rather than asking someone to throw that kind of money down all at once it was something people could build up to. Maybe you get the frame with a gas motor and at some point upgrade to get electric motors put into the wheels... then you start adding batteries ... and once that gets to a good place you either dump the engine or swap it for a smaller on the road charging engine.
One thing that I'd like to see tried is a turbine standby engine. Just something to top the battery up. I think Aston Martin might have actually done that with a hybrid super car they built. If I recollect... they used electrical generation turbines rather than automotive engines and they only kick on to top the battery up which gives you gasoline range with a plug in hybrid super car.
That specific model is of course impractical because its an aston martin and those are inherently impractical unless you're james bond on an expense account.
I also remember seeing a fellow that gutted an H2 Hummer and custom installed a hybrid system. I think he said he was getting 60 miles to the gallon... in an H2 Hummer. Also an obviously impractical car for so many reasons.
But the point is that rather than going in for these quasi religious transformations we need to be a bit more practical about it.