NSI closes top level Domain Servers 77
Cris writes "Looks
like NSI is closing access to all it's top level domain
servers, except for people that "need access." This is
allegedly a way to eliminate spamming, but they've denied
access to many companies which depend on these servers for
their businesses. "
privatization (Score:1)
Hmm, quite an amusing idea actually
foo (Score:1)
That's ok though, their days are numbered.
foo (Score:1)
Say again? (Score:1)
privatization (Score:1)
Root Zone Files. (Score:1)
(And, yes, I have set up a few DNS servers... I own and operate two domains and their associated name servers.)
Makes you appreciate Jon Postel (Score:1)
Sounds mighty corporate to me.
This just happened? (Score:1)
WHOIS vs. DNS zone files (Score:1)
The only contact info found in the zone file is the e-mail address in the SOA of the zone itself, and while name server maintainers probably get their share of junk e-mail, there is no point in downloading the entire .COM zone (with some 3.5 million subdomains) in order to find out that <hostmaster@INTERNIC.NET> is the maintainer of that zone.
Thus, I can't say I'm buying into the anti-UCE argument in this case. What exactly have they done to that end?
As long as they merely prevent bulk access to the entire thing, but I can still access individual records as needed, I don't mind too much.
The Software Publishers Association [spa.org] spammed a number of e-mail addresses found in the WHOIS once (I could tell, because my WHOIS address is not used for anything else) merely to "inform" me that my FTP server could be used for distribution of pirated software! They haven't apologized yet, and I haven't reported a single case of piracy to them since.
The solution (Score:1)
Shorten the grace period for new domain names. Or even make them pay up front. That would really kill domain name speculation. There's no need to disable a valid service of DNS to get rid of speculators.
Idea: Netscape could take over DNS legally! (Score:1)
Oh yeah, MS could do this with IE too, so maybe this isn't such a good idea.
capitalism sucks - CA and NZ (Score:1)
This is exactly what socialist democracies like Canada and New Zealand (and others) do, with the exception, that the government maxes out each of the residents' "credit cards", and if your a lucky citizen, you might get something back for the charge, less "administrative government expenses", of course.
I was born, and lived in, Canada from 1961 to 1997, and I saw the rise of socialized this and that, to see it all crumble pretty badly by the time I left. I paid the approximate equivalent of US$23k income tax on an income of US$43k, supporting a non-employed spouse and child, as well as myself. Add to that 8% provincial and 7% federal "value added" taxes on about everything you buy. Take away all the supposed social benefits that got "clawed back" because I was a "high income" earner.
Socialist democracies are unsustainable in the long term, regardless of how seductive the idea appears in the short term.
Pointing to the failings and corruption within the U.S. government (of which there are many), blaming them on a capitalist economic system, and suggesting that some kind of socialist democracy is the answer is either very short-sighted thinking, or an attempt to stage a communist-style coup d'etat.
Marketdroids and Domain Info (Score:1)
I have a couple of domains registered. One of the domains has a company name that ONLY appears in the DNS records. I have been recieving snail mail from companies that have been "mining" the DNS record for thier own slimey purposes. It really pisses me off how many corporate bottom-feeders consider the net their own way of "Making Money Fast".
And people wonder why I hate sales people so much.
There are a few cases (Score:1)
Among the issues I ran into was determining which domains were registered to the other ISP's nameservers. Their nameservers were poorly maintained, some domains had transferred, etc.. I also wanted to know if there were any domains that listed these nameservers as authoritative but weren't listed in the config files.
The only way to do this was a root zone transfer. I received an e-mail a few weeks ago from InterNIC stating that access would be renigged soon. I just checked and my access is gone. Luckily, I downloaded them all a few days ago.
Yes, some of the things I needed to check could have been done with Whois. But others couldn't. Of course, InterNIC is now offering monthly reports of domains associated with a nameserver but at the time, this service didn't exist.
I think it's bad policy to restrict access to people who have a legitimite need. Restricting access to root zone files will not stop spam to domain contacts. The spammers will simply scour other sources for e-mail addresses and run Whois queries on each domain they encounter. Yeah, it makes it a little bit harder but they'll do it nonetheless.
You mean... (Score:1)
Zone files were marketing dream (Score:1)
I'm curious, though, if NSI will now open up a "service" for companies that want the files...
I need a clue just to be confused (Score:1)
"All customer data is our intellectual property,"
are they saying that what they own is the knowledge that 205.244.119.10 = http://www.familycom.com or that what they own is the knowledge that http://www.familycom.com = 205.244.119.10 or what?
Domain Name Spammers Die Die Die... (Score:1)
DNS spammers search the DNS database for valuable domains that are about to expire, then send repeated requests for the domain by E-mail, hoping they'll get it first. NSI is getting hit with thousands of spam requests a minute. As a result, it took me two weeks and a few phone calls to get a new domain registered. Fortunately, NSI's customer service is pretty good -- it had better be for what we pay.
Although NSI is certainly in the pocket of the military-industrial complex, I have even more contempt for most of the people who have complaints about namespace issues. In our culture, such disputes generally have nothing to do with free speech and everything to do with rip-offs, con artists and scumsuckers like the Canadian who owns 200,000 domain names and the "whitehouse.com" guy.
Don't forget CANADA (Score:1)
Land of the Free. Aside from all the people telling each other how to live their lives because it raises taxes for the rest of us.
Grrrrr....
Mixed feelings... (Score:1)
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What's happening? (Score:1)
If they did block non-recursive queries, surely the DNS system would stop....
Sorry, but I didn't find the article technically clear.
Adrian
SPAM (Score:1)
complaining about the load on its servers.
That having been said. The DNS database is a public databse. The governement should have torn up thier contract.
I got bit by this one (Score:1)
They gave me a nice letter stating that using their list doesn't benifit the net so I can't have access. Now I have to craw the net looking for the same information. That seems to me to be alot worse for the net to me.
I heard rhumors that just about everyone will be denied access... seems to be true to me since I was withing acceptable use 6 months ago.
So can alternic.net resell 'microsoft.com'? (Score:1)
Kinda like if I have mr_poe@cats.ucsc.edu for an email address and I copyrighted the name, could I sue mr_poe@baltimore.ma.us? Hmmm... =:)
Ok, to preempt the flamers, yes that was a bad example.
Monopolistic tendancies (Score:1)
I find the present DNS situation highly disturbing. I have written a very comprehensive document explaining why this is such a big threat [base.com].
Network Solutions monopolistic ambitions are clear. The difficult question is how to stop them. Right now there appears little that can be done other than trusting that the government and ICANN [icann.org] don't screw up.
***Transmission*** Control Protocol (Score:1)
TCP/IP addresses. And are they really bound
to domains? I'm not an expert on this, so I
better shut up now
eBay domain auction (Score:1)
on eBay for $1000.00, item #67595554, nobody
bid on em.
Alternate top level domains (Score:1)
privatization (Score:1)
on another note, is it possible to set up an entirely separate hierarchy of domain names - entirely bypassing all these tyrrainical abuses of power?
-Laxative
Not quite (Score:1)
"ignorant people" (Score:1)
MY PROPERTY (Score:1)
OK, I'm going to make a map and declare it my intelectual property, then everybody will have to pay me mucho dineros to use any of the roads...
I'm sick of it all
Has it ever occurred to you that God might be a committee?
Speaking of "ignorant people" (Score:1)
And I do love my ignorant self
Has it ever occurred to you that God might be a committee?
How to do it? (Score:1)
Default Server: xxxxxxxxx
Address: X.Y.Z.W
> server f.root-servers.net
Default Server: f.root-servers.net
Address: 192.5.5.241
> ls com > com.zone
---
You get to see a lot of hashes (#) and end up with
Has it ever occurred to you that God might be a committee?
not your property (Score:1)
Has it ever occurred to you that God might be a committee?
Not quite (Score:1)
Speaking of "ignorant people" (Score:1)
Of course, NSI only runs one root server. (Score:1)
Some ISPs and universities need to stand up for freedom. If the InterNIC wants to stop spamming, they should announce a policy that they will remove any spamming domains on sight. Of course, they won't do that.
Has anyone ever looked into the history of NSI? From what I can tell, they were originally formed to perform contract work for the government whe, say, a company like AT&T was working for the government but needed to be 10% minority owned to comply with affirmativeaction regulations. NSI would step in and actually do the work, since they were (technically) minority-owned. It seems like an incredible abuse of the
affirmativeaction plan, which was intended to help small minority-owned businesses, not one or two millionaires.
Oh well. Entropy is always increasing, and the Internet is not excepted from that rule. Let's just hang together and do what *we* can for freedom.
Cheers,
Joshua. (I do mourn the death of --jon. all the more deeply because he kept this kind of madness from going on.)
Not exactly what they're doing (Score:2)
privatization (Score:1)
f.root-servers.net still working (Score:1)
capitalism sucks (Score:1)
Last time I checked, New Zealand had one of the largest deregulated/privitized telecom industries in the world.
New Zealand ain't immune (Score:1)
We've got service cutbacks, privatised this, privatised that, user pays and now some dork has the idea that it'd be good to cut the number of MPs. I suspect they'd like to reduce it to one.
DomaiNZ have the internet fairly well wrapped up as a closed shop, plus we have to pay data charges per megabyte (unless you don't mind having your access limited to a few hours - download Staroffice? Haha).
New Zealand ain't what it used to be and it needs a fair amount of stick from the rest of the world to make the policiticans here realise they can't rest on their laurels any longer. Or rely on the goodwill of the average Kiwi; It's all been sold overseas.
Vik
capitalism sucks (Score:1)
Idea: Netscape could take over DNS legally! (Score:1)
(ISP, college, company, whatever) server rather
than sending the request halfway across the
Internet. That way the root servers don't melt
down from having to service zillions of requests,
since info is cached locally.
The only way to change this that's feasible is
to have your organization point to somebody else
as a root name server.
Idea: Netscape could take over DNS legally! (Score:1)