Bill Gates to Finally Receive His Harvard Degree 336
coondoggie writes "It's not like he needs it to beef up his résumé, but the world's richest college dropout finally is getting his degree. Bill Gates, chairman of Microsoft, will speak at Harvard University's commencement ceremony in June and, like all commencement speakers, will receive an honorary degree from the institution. It's hard to guess if Gates, the wealthiest person in the world and co-founder of a company that brought in $44 billion in revenue last year, cares. But the programming whiz who once dropped out of Harvard will likely feel some sense of satisfaction."
Rich man's GED (Score:5, Insightful)
so I guess that makes the honorary degree something akin to a rich man's GED.
huh? (Score:5, Insightful)
Well, he certainly must care, as he's obviously not doing it for the money.
Not a doctorate? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:huh? (Score:2, Insightful)
"programming whiz"? (Score:1, Insightful)
Let us mod submitter blurbs. (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Rich man's GED (Score:3, Insightful)
Degrees are overrated... Skills are important! (Score:5, Insightful)
I have no degree but take college courses (adult continuing education) that interest me. At some point in most of them, the prof will usually add a remark like: "...but of course we know that's not how it works in the real world."
I'm not saying that they're teaching the wrong things in college, just that the average 18 year old will be learning mostly best-case theory. Most of the actual skills are learned during the early years in the workplace.
Seems like it would be a better process to work in your desired field for a few years, then go for the degree. Or, at least participate heavily in an apprentice program. But I do realize that some career fields are not compatible with this paragraph.
Yep, he earned it, I'd say. (Score:4, Insightful)
If it's computing science, then I'd probably have a few words to say.
Re:Rich man's GED (Score:3, Insightful)
And as for the "stamp of approval..."
Re:Already has several others (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Good for him (Score:3, Insightful)
It's nice that you assume that the Administration is innocent until proven guilty. I just wish they would return the favor and practice due process with their victims instead of engaging in rendition, torture, indefinite detention, disappearances, and etc all before any legal trial. I'd rather live in a republic than a junta.
Nose-in-the-air academic snoots... (Score:2, Insightful)
Let's not forget that while Bill Gates is a shining example to college dropouts everywhere, he still did not get to where he is today by his wits and ruthless business strategies alone. He also had to stand on the shoulders of the engineers and programmers that wrote Windows, MS Office, etc. and most of those people were precisely the type of nose-in-the-air snoots with a college degree who didn't follow his example and drop out. Now you can probably defend your self by pointing to the quality of Windows, MS Office and other Microsoft products, which is perceived to be rather low in some quarters and argue that Bill hasn't been well served by those programmers and engineers anyway. I'd say that any shortcomings in Microsoft products are probably more the fault of Microsoft's management and it's history of practicing an approach to development and product testing schedules where marketing issues outweigh quality and proper development practices (i.e. Just develop it really fast... And who needs thorough software testing anyway?? It burns up to much time and drives up costs.) than they are the fault of the programmers and engineers who have to abide by them. I can remember what Windows 3.x and 98 used to be like, I can see how much of an improvement Windows XP and Vista are today. Neither is perfect mind you, my chief complaints with Windows 98 for example used to be: stability, lousy security and a UI that almost drove me insane with useless questions and endless 'Apply' buttons followed by far to many obligatory reboots. Microsoft has now more or less tackled the stability issue, they seem to be getting mildly serious about security but their UI still sucks although there are fewer reboots these days which is a plus. So Micosoft's management has learned quite a few painful lessons about the importance of professionalism and discipline in software development over the years since Windows 3.x and 98 came out, they have learned it the hard way and they seem to be learning mostly by falling on their faces.
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What it also says (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Degrees are overrated... Skills are important! (Score:5, Insightful)
It's not the dot-com era anymore, companies aren't going to hire 17 year old dropouts as sysadmins. Your case was a complete one off, you may as well advise people to buy lottery tickets for a living.
Honorary Degrees Outside Commencement (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Rich man's GED (Score:2, Insightful)
I think you're putting too much stock into this "honorary degree," it of course isn't worth the paper it's written on and everyone knows that, including him.
It's just nice to get recognition, who cares who it's from.
That's all it is, recognition. If you're too high and mighty with your 'I did well in spite of having a degree Ha Ha Ha society take that!' then I think you're missing the point (and it's probably a good thing you didn't bother spending 4/5 years attaining a degree).
Re:Degrees are overrated... Skills are important! (Score:5, Insightful)
Things I learned in college
1. algebra
2. calculus
3. data structures
4. algorithms [sorting, searching, etc]
5. compiler theory
6. numerical analysis
7. and a host of practical courses, etc.
And what do I do for a living? Software developer in the field of cryptography. So I need the math, algorithms, etc, etc. Yeah, granted I too taught myself a lot of my skills [like crypto], but to say college was a total waste because I had to sit through a "intro to C" class is ignorant.
Maybe if you had a job that required talent you'd be talking differently. I'm sorry, but setting up servers, changing network settings, etc, isn't exactly a skilled labour. I mean it's a job, but don't pretend you're some tech god because you can make Apache start and host a page.
Sorry for knocking you off your high horse, but you're advice is ignorant and misleading.
Tom
Re:Rich man's GED (Score:5, Insightful)
It's not useless. Most companies require it for you to be able to work for them. A college degree (earned, not necessarily honorary) is valuable in that it shows that you can dedicate yourself to something and accomplish it. Also, for most people it's the first time they are on their own to figure out their own lives. At least for me, the life experiences during college are more valuable than the actual education. The college experience can be invaluable for discovering yourself and finding out how you want to live the rest of your life.
Re:Rich man's GED (Score:5, Insightful)
More indepth answer? If you assume a degree is synonymous with 'being qualified' you are incorrect. There are a large number of graduates who have yet to learn the 'tough lesson' that their degree doesn't actually carry much weight. So the Slashdot community is helpfully trying to get them focussed on the fact that a degree, or lack thereof, isn't a binary state factor. It's an enabler, and it's useful, but then... so is having spent 3 years 'in the industry' whilst everyone else was off getting their degree.
Re:Rich man's GED (Score:4, Insightful)
It's an honorary degree, it's more like saying "we recognise you as being prominent in this field and here's the proof."
Not: "omglolwtf u didnt get a degree heres one now ur one of us!!1 lol"
Actually honorary degrees are more of a "we need someone to speak at our graduation and we will give you one as payment". Nothing more, nothing less. Kind of cheapens what the real graduates are getting IMHO.
Woz on the other hand.. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Rich man's GED (Score:4, Insightful)
Certainly college degrees aren't useless, but in the same respect they aren't completely necessary. I have a fairly well paying job without a bachelor's degree. However that being said, I am a part-time student pursuing a bachelor's degree, so obviously I do not view it as useless.
talk about PR stunt (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Already has several others (Score:5, Insightful)
But, how
Bill Gates has had a really HUGE influence to the field (some good, some bad, but in my opinion, more good than bad). I would think that he deserves more like a Master degree... maybe *even* a PhD (although maybe he is not familiar with research methodologies).
I know here in slashdot more than 50% of people do not like him but I think overall, after he dies he will be nicely remembered as the guy who introduced computers to the masses.
not as bad as giving Shrub an honorary degree, but (Score:3, Insightful)
(I'll admit the Gates Foundation does good philanthropic work, but for that I credit his wife. I never heard of him doing that stuff before he got married.)
Re:Rich man's GED (Score:3, Insightful)
Let me illustrate an average slashdot poster. I met a friend of a friend. The conversation went like this.
"So, where do you work?"
"I'm actually not right now"
"Oh, so what school are you going to?"
"I'm not going to college, the school messed me up"
"Oh, ok"
This person lives w/ their parents, and claims to enjoy "intelligent conversation". When you consider the number of self-styled experts that know everything on a subject, I'd say you have a large number of people like this here. They are too smart for school, too good for a job, and thus live at home w/ their parents. They explain this meaningless existance by posting on slashdot and talking about why these things don't matter.
In short, the reason why that is often posted: Virgins.
Re:Rich man's GED (Score:2, Insightful)
Programming whiz? (Score:3, Insightful)
I'm under the impression that he made his mark by announcing vaporware and then coming up with something quick (primarily using someone else's work), before showing it off to potential buyers (e.g. QDOS [wikipedia.org], Altair BASIC interpreter [wikipedia.org]).
Re:Rich man's GED (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Rich man's GED (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Rich man's GED (Score:2, Insightful)
I don't see how that relates to the degree.
I went to college (well, I went to a university). I went for 2 semesters and dropped out because it felt like the same crap that I was going through in high school. The college experience, I feel, helped me out immensely with my social skills and I learned a lot of things about love, life, and technology.
During those 2 semesters, I spent all my time learning java and playing with linux and learning about TCP/UDP networking on the dorm network as I saturated our 10mbit pipe for weeks downloading, uploading and experimenting and I got to see how the campus's network was put together when I had to have a meeting with the network admin about my rampant use of his network (so rampant, I might add, that professors and TAs couldn't log into their grading system).
And although I wasn't paying for college after that, I lived just off campus and continued going to classes with my 3rd, 4th, and 5th year comp-sci friends so I could help them with their assignments and learn more for myself.
Now, about a degree being worthless, it's not. It's your foot in the door at many companies, however, just because you have that piece of paper doesn't prove that you can do the work that's expected of you or that you actually know what you're talking about. I know people who majored in comp-sci and graduated with their bachelors and still have no clue how to code. They have a basic understanding of the difference between TCP and UDP but have absolutely no clue what they're used for or how their used.
At the same time, me, and several other people I know who didn't go to college, and one guy who is a high school dropout, know more than most people with their degree. I've got a friend who just got his CCNA and is working as an assistant network admin at my old university and he only just graduated high school last year.
Now, I'm not saying that no one needs college. College isn't for everybody, and it can be helpful as a guide; you learn about a lot of things, they have a structured learning schedule for learning about the network OSI model and sorting techniques, etc, but just going doesn't magically make you better than someone who didn't go.
When you can show what you've done, what you can do, and what you're capable of picking up, a college degree is just a piece of paper. Actions speak louder than paper.