WA Law: 5 Years in Prison for Gambling Online 535
tpoker writes "Online gambling has been an ongoing legal issue for the federal government, but Washington State has recently decided to take matters into their own hands. The Seattle PI reports, 'Beginning next month [June 7th], Washington residents who play poker or make other types of wagers on the Internet will be committing a Class C felony, equivalent under the law to possessing child pornography, threatening the governor or torturing an animal. Although the head of the state Gambling Commission says it is unlikely that individual online gamblers will be targeted for arrest, the new law carries stiff penalties: as much as five years in prison and a $10,000 fine.'"
Might as well kill someone before you gamble. (Score:5, Interesting)
Good game, government.
God bless.. (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Place your bets.... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Place your bets.... (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm actually surprised that Washington of all places was the first to pass this bill. I suspect it might be a "since we can't get a piece of that pie into our tax coffers, we're going to shut it down" type of situation.
Indian casino lobbyists at work (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Like Clockwork (Score:2, Interesting)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060531/ap_on_re_us/se x_offenders_death [yahoo.com]
Darn election years.
Re:The state hates competition (Score:1, Interesting)
Torn (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Place your bets.... (Score:2, Interesting)
As far as online poker, your average person might stand a better chance than with the lottery but not much. With the use of poker bots, the odds for Joe Smith are greatly dimished unless he knows how to utilize poker bots himself or he's sharp enough a card player to recognize when he's facing bots and get out of the game accordingly.
Re:Here's an idea for new laws..... (Score:3, Interesting)
Just what we need -- more NIMBY irrelevant laws (Score:4, Interesting)
IMHO, the purpose of the criminal justice system is not to punish. Let that sink in. I don't want to punish criminals. It's stupid. It's vindictive. It's emotional and it isn't constructive.
What SHOULD be the purpose of the justice system? One thing, and one thing only:
To separate dangerous individuals from society, and keep them separated.
Note, by "dangerous" I mean physicly harmful only. I don't mean, "they don't live like we think they should". I don't mean "they stole a lot of money". Yes. That's right. Thieves don't belong in jail unless they hurt people physicly. If the crime is monetary, there is an excellent argument for RESTITUTION in the form of fines and wage garnishment. There is no good argument for SEPARATION unless the guy waved a gun in somebody's face to get the money.
I may not *like* the Enron criminals, but wouldn't mind living next door to them. These guys are not going to stick a gun in my face and BLOW MY HEAD OFF. They are (probably) not going to rape my children.
Get it, government idiots?
Some guy who plays online poker and smokes weed on the weekends does not belong in jail. If you want to tax the weed and the poker, fine but I am SICK AND TIRED of my government setting child rapists and armed thugs free so they can put functional members of society behind bars because of their particular notions regarding crime and punishment. Frankly, that kid of life sounds like enough punishment.
Re:Nonsense (Score:2, Interesting)
- That was my first question, too. So who is this law targeted at?
Simple. People under investigation for unrelated crimes for which there is insufficient evidence to charge or detain, political candidates and anyone the media chooses to highlight breaking it.
Or insurance? (Score:3, Interesting)
With gambling, you are spending some money in exchange for the chance of a good return. Your odds are improved if you are skilled or have someone on the inside.
With the stock market, you are investing some money in exchange for the chance of a good return. Your odd are improved if you are skilled or have insider information.
With insurance, you are spending money in exchange for the possibility of a return. Your odds are improved if you know what you are doing (maintaining the correct coverage for your risk) or know something on the inside (i.e. that you plan to kill the person you just took out a policy on, or that they have a secret terminal illness!).
Terry Pratchett's first Discworld book - The Colour of Magic - has a good and humorous explanation of insurance in terms of gambling.
Re:Dumb Law... (Score:2, Interesting)
But then what excuse would the government or police have for persecuting those whose politics or insight they do not appreciate?
This is just like marijuana being illegal. Simply a means to put down those who see through the system.
They prosecute only those who they see as a political or ideological threat. Child molesters and murderers are free to do as they please, as for the most part they believe in the system, they pose no real threat.
Pot smokers however are the spawn of satan in the eyes of the law. If they keep quiet and don't rock the boat they can simply be exploited, should they get too vocal or threaten police or government profit in the trade, they are locked up.
"Sometimes paranoia's just having all the facts."
"A functioning police state needs no police."
Fuck the law - its time for revolution, violence is all they can understand.
Re:Might as well kill someone before you gamble. (Score:3, Interesting)
George would be appalled (Score:3, Interesting)
For the record, all day today KIRO was running a piece about how reprobates have been running an open air crack cocaine market across the street from the King County courthouse in Seattle (this state's largest city) for years, and even they (one of the largest radio stations in the state) couldn't get police to respond. Note to furriners: the sale and use of crack cocaine is prohibited in the US.
I am curious about what offended our state representatives more... that their sponsors the tribal casinos weren't getting a cut or that the state wasn't getting a share. They're certainly pleased to pander to habitual gamblers with scratch tickets and lotto in every convenience store, gas station and grocery in the state. They get a cut of every bottle (or glass!) of alcohol. Certainly they make more bucks off of a pack of cigarettes than the farmer who grew the tobacco, or anybody else who touched it before it arrived at the consumer -- tax is > 50Pct.
Certainly it wasn't the cops, who must use care now only to pull over offenders driving later model cars so as to not overburden the Justice Profit Center with an excess of violators who can't pay their fines.
Yes, that's Washington - the state where you're safe from online gaming and you can't buy Sudafed because you might make meth with it, but you can sell meth, crack, heroin and Ecstasy with impunity in the Junior High School because there's no profit in arresting you. Click it or ticket. Fines are double in work zones. Thanx.
It offends me that I live in the state that reelected Baghdad Jim http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/903913/po sts [freerepublic.com] after this piece ran.
It would be more honest to put a menu on the state house: Calendar days: $50K, Minor issues: $500k. Major Issues: $4M. Public/Private partnerships like ballparks or public transit: Profit sharing whatever we can fleece the taxpayer for. No law too unenforceable, no cause to liberal. It's for our children, dammit! Won't anyone think of the children?
Do I sound bitter? Yes. My son really deserves an "Alex recognition day" on the state calendar, but where am I gonna get $50K?