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Weigh In On the OOXML Issue During Live Debate
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on Wednesday December 05, @07:52AM
from the better-than-daytime-television dept.
from the better-than-daytime-television dept.
lisah writes "Linux.com's Robin 'Roblimo' Miller will moderate a live debate today, Wednesday, December 5 at 1pm US EST (GMT -5), between the GNOME Foundation's press officer Jeff Waugh and fair competition advocate Roy Schestowitz. Both have strong — and opposing — points of view regarding GNOME's involvement with Microsoft's OOXML standard and vehemently defend their positions, so getting them together in the same virtual room ought to prove quite interesting. Although the broadcast will be archived as a podcast and available for free download, you can listen live as it's recorded and also call in to participate and ask questions."
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Fun, fun, fun (Score:5, Funny)
Irony (Score:3, Funny)
(Last Journal: Friday December 08 2006, @04:28PM)
As a carnivore (Score:4, Funny)
(Last Journal: Monday November 28 2005, @12:21PM)
Just checking the link for Roy Schestowitz (Score:2)
(Last Journal: Wednesday August 22, @07:47AM)
Slashdotted already ? Or maybe the Novell boycotter also boycotted the invoices from the webhost ?
Which Side Will Say This First? (Score:5, Funny)
It's things like this that bug me about GNOME (Score:5, Insightful)
I see no reason why a project which was started as a direct response to another project perceived not to be completely Free (which was quite justified at that time) should have anything to do with certifying obfuscated formats made by monopolists or support their proprietary software platforms (see Mono) and pushes by some people within GNOME to make them a central part of the GNOME infrastructure. I don't understand experiments like Eazel, with big industry hotshots coming in to design proper interfaces for the masses who don't understand them, and there are other confusing examples. GNOME was originally a project with a political goal, so I don't understand how its politics have become so bizarre.
As an external observer who doesn't use much GNOME technology, but values the contributions that the project has done to the Free Software landscape, I have to wonder what the hell some people in there are thinking. I realise that there are many different viewpoints within the GNOME project and that this issue is likely not as grave as some are trying to make it, but there is simply no excuse for supporting OOXML in my eyes. None.
Re:It's things like this that bug me about GNOME (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://orde.org.uk/)
The clue to the second clause lies in the first.
Re:It's things like this that bug me about GNOME (Score:5, Interesting)
I think GNOME is the best thing since sliced bread and I defend its design chioces. I think OOXML has nothing to do with GNOME and therefor I ignore it completely (in this context). What is different between those on this bandwagon and myself?
If we can call in (Score:2, Funny)
(http://www.parallelrealities.co.uk/)
"Hello, who's that?"
"Hi Robin, it's Richard"
"Hello Richard, do you have a question?"
"Well actually, I wanted to request a song please"
"Um, I'm sorry Richard, but this isn't that kind of show"
"Oh, OK then."
*Hangs up*
"OK, if anyone has any questions, not song requests, then please call this number..."
Ad Hominem (Score:4, Funny)
(http://www.dutchvirtual.nl/ | Last Journal: Friday August 10, @07:04AM)
Jeff: "... and the document size is excellent!"
Roy: "Yeah, but tell me one thing: why should we believe someone who cheats on his wife?"
What!? Gnome supporting OOXML!? (Score:1)
Where have I been? Living under a rock?!
two fact-challenged foamy debaters (Score:1)
WTF with that feed host? (Score:2)
(http://honeypot.net/ | Last Journal: Thursday November 15, @11:49AM)
TFA says the debate will be hosted at BlogTalkRadio [blogtalkradio.com]. Fine, but WTF is up with the meta tags on that page? Representative samples include:
No one says a blog has to stay on-topic, of course, but that's... diverse.
Re:Iron Chef Opensource (Score:2)
(http://www.emacswiki...iki/ChristopherSmith | Last Journal: Thursday December 13, @12:11PM)
Re:No point. (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:No point. (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://www.ibboard.co.uk/)
For the developer who wants to spend his time developing applications rather than worrying about memory management then
OOXML is a bit stranger for Gnome to get involved in. Surely it's something that apps like Open Office should be concerned about, not the desktop people? I'd rather they were putting their effort into improving some of the tools they do have rather than working in things they don't have to directly support.
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Disclaimer: I use Linux, I even use Gnome (have done since Redhat 7.3), I enjoy the freedom and power of open source, and I do dual-boot Windows XP. I code my own projects in C# and don't hate things purely because they're MS, just because they're generally not as well specified or obviously flawed compared to alternatives.