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SoundExchange Backs Off DRM for Webcasters

Posted by CowboyNeal on Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:37 PM
from the making-concessions dept.
Radio Free Europe writes "The big news is not that SoundExchange has repackaged the same royalty proposal that small webcasters rejected in May, but that SoundExchange has dropped its previous insistence that DRM be a part of any agreement. 'On the bright side, it doesn't appear as if DRM is part of the terms this time around. Previously, SoundExchange stated that webcasters who agree to the deal must actively "work to stop users from engaging in 'streamripping'." This began a war of words between the Digital Media Association (DiMA) and SoundExchange, with DiMA accusing SoundExchange of using rate negotiations to push mandatory DRM. SoundExchange's letter leaves the much-maligned streamripping issue out of the discussion, clearing at least that hurdle.'"

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  • How to Run a Company into the Red (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 23, @11:47PM (#20340107)
    SoundExchange has no idea how to create a viable business model. The money is not in charging the broadcasters, rather its in free promotion coupled with aggressive web marketing.

    They should cut a deal with broadcasters that offers free music in exchange for relevant ads and links to store fronts were a listener can purchase the music. They should also offer discounts on packaged songs that they want to push on the market.

    They could be influencing lesser known genres such as indie and techno, and popularize and brand a new line of music.

    They could completely rule this new medium and reap the rewards, instead they are going to force broadcasters overseas and lose even more money to pirates.

    I am just sitting here shaking my head in disbelief at the shear stupidity of their business model.

  • by BillGatesLoveChild (1046184) on Thursday August 23, @11:57PM (#20340167)
    (Last Journal: Thursday August 30, @10:31PM)
    SoundExchange http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoundExchange [wikipedia.org] is a subsidiary of the RIAA. Why do webcasters, radio stations and everyone else continue to play their game? There is a lot of good music out there; Always has been, but now it's a listener's market. The web means we no longer need the RIAA to choose which acts we should listen to. So why don't these guys, instead of waltzing with the RIAA, tell them to get bent and promote other artists instead?

    Can you imagine the looks on the faces of the RIAA Shill Lawyers when the webcasters say: "You're absolutely right. We're not going to give a single one of your artists a second of airtime again. Now get out before we call the cops. Watch that step. Ooooh that's a dozy! Doris, if he doesn't pick himself off the floor in thirty seconds have security bring the Rottweiler. Oops sorry I trod on your hand." You get the idea... So webcasters, stop acting like wusses.
  • Sox doing DRM? (Score:2)

    by flyingfsck (986395) on Thursday August 23, @11:58PM (#20340171)
    Good grief, why would Sox get involved with DRM? Maybe to add some echo?
  • DRM is dead! (Score:2)

    by Newer Guy (520108) on Thursday August 23, @11:58PM (#20340173)
    This doesn't surprise me. DRM is dead. How could SoundExchange possibly require it when most of the RIAA members now favor retail sales of DRM free music? Even WalMart is getting into the act. Why? because they found that they can charge MORE for DRM free music and the consumer will pay it. It only took the music industry TEN YEARS to figure out what most of US knew all along!
  • Soundexchange??? (Score:1)

    by newgalactic (840363) on Friday August 24, @12:52AM (#20340441)
    So, I've heard of Soundexchange but I don't know who they are and why we have to listen to them. What do they have to do with internet radio stations who play non-RIAA music. I ask that because I heard that they put the "squeeze" on everyone, no matter what they play. NPR has even been talking about them.
    • Re:Soundexchange??? by beakerMeep (Score:2) Friday August 24, @03:17AM
      • Re:Soundexchange??? by Cold-NiTe (Score:1) Friday August 24, @05:47AM
      • by crovira (10242) on Friday August 24, @09:02AM (#20343297)
        (http://www.msbpodcast.com/)
        because its just an extortion racket.

        Let me get this straight...

        SoundExchange are going to collect $50k from each and every WebCaster radio station.

        Then the artists have to find out wether they played their songs, or not, from every single WebCaster. (If you believe people are consistently that diligent, I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.)

        Then the artists have to figure out how much of those $50ks SoundExchange might owe the artist. (Some of these guys and gals can play great. Math, they're not so hot at.)

        Then the artists have to try to collect, less the euphemistically called administration fees of course (can you say 110%.)

        Get the "Piperazine"! I'm looking at a nastytape worm here.
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  • by beakerMeep (716990) on Friday August 24, @03:26AM (#20341101)
    I was digging around and just noticed that SaveNetRadio.org is claiming an agreement has been reached.

    Here is the press release [savenetradio.org] (pdf)

    And more on their homepage [savenetradio.org]

    Note: it looks like this is just one detail that has been agreed upon but negotiations are ongoing.
  • by Shemmie (909181) on Friday August 24, @05:14AM (#20341591)
    Sweeten the deal, get it signed. We can change it to include DRM later.
  • by PhysicsPhil (880677) on Friday August 24, @08:19AM (#20342779)
    For all its bluster, SoundExchange is an organization with about 30 employees. They are set up to collect and administer royalty payments, not engage in large-scale litigation. Even if the broadcasters completely stonewalled, I doubt SoundExchange is in a practical position to do much.

    As I've said before, the music industry and the broadcast industry are engaged in a standard contract negotiation, albeit one that is receiving a good deal more press than would be usual. Strictly from an economic perspective, the broadcasters would like to receive broadcast rights with no royalties or restrictions of any kind. The music industry would like to have a massive royalty payment and perfect and absolute DRM. Eventually they'll meet at somewhere in the middle where they both figure they can make a buck. It will all work out...
  • it would seem pretty stupid for them to insist on it.
  • Re:Streamripping? (Score:2)

    by advocate_one (662832) on Friday August 24, @12:07AM (#20340221)
    Streamripping produces a perfect copy of what was "transmitted" which can be copied perfectly ad infinitum. Recording off the radio onto tape produces a lower fidelity analog copy and subsequent generations of copying of that copy introduces more noise at each generation.
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