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Mathematical Lego Sculptures

Posted by michael on Tue Jul 02, 2002 09:35 PM
from the too-much-time-on-your-hands dept.
Daedalus_ writes "Some guy has created mathematical surfaces (mobius strips, klein bottles, etc) out of Legos. He also has some other interesting creations (such as Dilbert figurines and a Hoberman Sphere)."
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  • Can he make... (Score:1)

    by cardshark2001 (444650) on Tuesday July 02 2002, @09:39PM (#3812063)
    One of those snakey thingeys that have all those sections you twist go back into the container?

    I could NEVER figure that out.
  • Does this mean... (Score:1)

    by URoRRuRRR (57117) on Tuesday July 02 2002, @09:40PM (#3812068) Journal
    Does this mean that the lego representation of a surface integral is not far behind?
  • Holy crap! (Score:5, Funny)

    by TheCyko1 (568452) on Tuesday July 02 2002, @09:48PM (#3812094)
    Lego people can walk sideways on buildings?? We must make them our leaders!
    • Re:Holy crap! (Score:5, Funny)

      by cdtoad (14065) on Tuesday July 02 2002, @09:51PM (#3812106) Homepage
      THEY'RE NOT LEGO PEOPLE! The polically correct term is "MiniFig". Please refer to them as such since "Lego People" is a demoralizing term.
      [ Parent ]
  • And the conjugate... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by digitalhermit (113459) on Tuesday July 02 2002, @09:51PM (#3812104) Homepage
    Creating legos out of mathematical surfaces... (Use POVRay to render this :D).

    #include "colors.inc"
    #include "textures.inc"
    #include "metals.inc"

    camera {
    location
    look_at
    }

    plane { , -1
    pigment {
    checker color Red, color Blue
    }
    }

    light_source { color White} // example of object unions

    #declare lego=union {
    box {
    ,

    }

    #declare cyl1=cylinder {
    , .5
    }

    object { cyl1 }
    object { cyl1 translate }
    object { cyl1 translate }
    object { cyl1 translate }
    object { cyl1 translate }
    object { cyl1 translate }

    texture { Glossy
    pigment { Red }
    }

    }

    object { lego }
    object { lego
    translate
    rotate 20*y
    }
    • Re:And the conjugate... (Score:4, Interesting)

      by digitalhermit (113459) on Tuesday July 02 2002, @09:56PM (#3812121) Homepage
      Let's try this again...

      #include "colors.inc"
      #include "textures.inc"
      #include "metals.inc"

      camera {
      location < 0, 8, -8 >
      look_at < 0, 1, 2 >
      }

      plane { <0, 1, 0>, -1
      pigment {
      checker color Red, color Blue
      }
      }

      light_source { <2, 4, -3> color White} // example of object unions

      #declare lego=union {
      box {
      <6, 0, 0>,
      <0, 2, 4>
      }

      #declare cyl1=cylinder {
      <1, 0, 1>,
      <1, 2.5, 1> .5
      }

      object { cyl1 }
      object { cyl1 translate < 2, 0, 0> }
      object { cyl1 translate < 4, 0, 0> }
      object { cyl1 translate < 0, 0, 2> }
      object { cyl1 translate < 2, 0, 2> }
      object { cyl1 translate < 4, 0, 2> }

      texture { Glossy
      pigment { Red }
      }

      }

      object { lego }
      object { lego
      translate < -6, 0, 5 >
      rotate 20*y
      }
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  • Figure Eight Knot (Score:5, Insightful)

    by abigor (540274) on Tuesday July 02 2002, @09:52PM (#3812108)
    That is totally amazing. And for what it's worth, I think it's a worthwhile use of his time (not that my opinion on how someone uses their time matters, but whatever). I don't know, to me for some reason non-trivial acts of creation like this seem to touch whatever it is to be human -- our creative endowment is one of our signature traits, I think. What impulse would drive this sort of creative urge, to create beautiful mathematical shapes out of Lego, of all things? Whatever it is, it's mysterious, and it wasn't a waste of time. That figure eight knot is incredible.
  • Wow.... (Score:5, Funny)

    by RaboKrabekian (461040) on Tuesday July 02 2002, @09:54PM (#3812112) Journal
    Very, very cool.

    Now show me a hypercube and I'll be really impressed.
    • Re:Wow.... by Medevo (Score:2) Tuesday July 02 2002, @10:05PM
    • Re:Wow.... (Score:4, Funny)

      by Hollinger (16202) <michael@NOsPam.hollinger.net> on Tuesday July 02 2002, @10:35PM (#3812232) Homepage Journal
      That's easy. Take a 4-cube. Pass it through 3-space, and what you'll see is an infinitely small cube at the point in the center of the 4-cube which will then grow to the cross-sectional size of the 4-cube, and shrink back down. Not too hard to wrap your head around. Tesseracts are a totally different matter...
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      • Re:Wow.... (Score:5, Informative)

        by ErfC (127418) on Wednesday July 03 2002, @12:47AM (#3812540) Homepage
        That's easy. Take a 4-cube. Pass it through 3-space, and what you'll see is an infinitely small cube at the point in the center of the 4-cube which will then grow to the cross-sectional size of the 4-cube, and shrink back down. Not too hard to wrap your head around. Tesseracts are a totally different matter...

        I disagree. That nicely describes what happens with a sphere, but not so much with a cube.

        I guess it depends on how it's passing through 3-space. The best way to imagine this stuff is to imagine a 3-D object passing through 2-space. If you pass the cube through corner first, you'll get something like what you describe, except the cross sections will be triangular most of the time. Edge on, you'll get rectangles.

        Face-on, your 2-space will see nothing until the 3-cube hits it, then the 2-space will see a square just sitting there until the 3-cube is all the way through.

        What's the difference between a tesseract and a 4-cube? According to Eric Weisstein, it seems they're the same thing [wolfram.com].

        [ Parent ]
        • Re:Wow.... by Hollinger (Score:2) Wednesday July 03 2002, @07:51AM
        • Re:Wow.... by daniel_mcl (Score:1) Wednesday July 03 2002, @01:58PM
      • What a 4d Cube looks like to us by invid (Score:1) Wednesday July 03 2002, @07:30AM
      • Re:Wow.... by Mr. McGibby (Score:1) Wednesday July 03 2002, @02:21PM
    • Re:Wow.... (Score:4, Interesting)

      by NaDrew (561847) <nadrew@gmail.com> on Tuesday July 02 2002, @10:49PM (#3812267) Journal
      I was hoping to see a Calabi-Yau space [thinkquest.org], myself. How many 1x3's would that take?
      [ Parent ]
    • Re:Wow.... by irving47 (Score:1) Wednesday July 03 2002, @09:23AM
      • Re:Wow.... by Dyolf Knip (Score:2) Wednesday July 03 2002, @06:20PM
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  • Other lego sculpture sites (Score:5, Informative)

    by Juhaa (588855) on Tuesday July 02 2002, @09:56PM (#3812120)
    I love Andrew Lipson's Math site, thought it was on slashdot for a while. If you like to see other such sites check out Eric Harshbarge's [ericharshbarger.org] Lego page (cool stuff like wedding cakes and skyscrapers), Henry Lim's totally awsome lego sculptures [henrylim.org], he's even got Natalie Portman (Not naked, and next to the petrified beethovan). BTW, Eric's got a very interesting page on on San Mononoke [ericharshbarger.org] (more on those [about.com]).
  • Microserfs (Score:1)

    by taloobie (537189) on Tuesday July 02 2002, @10:02PM (#3812141) Homepage
    Wait a second, isn't this idea very very close to the Oop! idea in Douglas Coupland's "Microserfs"?
  • I would be impressed with a Dyson Sphere [d.kth.se] out of legos. That would be cool.
    And you could have a little Scotty Lego charachter next to a crashed shuttle craft on the surface.
  • tell me... (Score:1)

    by csguy314 (559705) on Tuesday July 02 2002, @10:18PM (#3812181) Homepage
    I'm not the only person that realizes that a klein bottle can't be made with lego? Or with anything that we know of...
    klein bottles can't really be represented in three dimensions...
    • Re:tell me... by CProgrammer98 (Score:2) Wednesday July 03 2002, @03:33AM
    • Re:tell me... by matrix29 (Score:2) Wednesday July 03 2002, @05:41AM
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  • I love it (Score:4, Funny)

    by nfras (313241) on Tuesday July 02 2002, @10:20PM (#3812188)
    On his other page I particularly liked the machine for switching itself off. Mind you, he'd need to be careful, he might be breaching Microsoft's patent on Windows.
    • Re:I love it by napa1m (Score:2) Tuesday July 02 2002, @10:31PM
      • Re:I love it by MicroBerto (Score:2) Wednesday July 03 2002, @08:39AM
      • Re:I love it by Xcruciate (Score:1) Wednesday July 03 2002, @01:25PM
  • Oh yeah? (Score:3, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 02 2002, @10:20PM (#3812190)
    I can make a near-perfect rectangular parallelepiped out of single Lego brick. Top THAT!
  • Mirror Site (Score:3, Informative)

    by zerocool^ (112121) on Tuesday July 02 2002, @10:23PM (#3812198) Homepage Journal

    Mirror site up.

    www.netmar.com/~will/lego [netmar.com]

    Disclaimers:
    1.) Not my work, I don't claim any of it.
    2.) I didn't get the .DAT files.
    3.) I know it's not slashdotted yet, just preparing/ karma whoring.
    4.) If it does get slashdotted, and everyone starts testing my load balancing, why not sign up for hosting at the same time? We're running a no setup fee promotion at the moment.

    ~Will

    P.S. became friends with the :%s/JPG/jpg command - when I saved the images, the file extentions converted themselves to lowercase. God bless vi.

  • by kbroom (258296) on Tuesday July 02 2002, @10:33PM (#3812227) Homepage
    I think slashdot has discovered a mozilla bug.
    Everytime i click on the "out of legos" link, my
    Mozilla(1.0) crashes! ...Or maybe there is a new weapon against the /. effect!
  • by Tablizer (95088) on Tuesday July 02 2002, @11:03PM (#3812298) Homepage Journal

    I would like to see this guy get together with the creater of this site:

    http://drew.corrupt.net/lp/series2.html

    The Kline Bottle would then never be looked at in the same light.

    (Warning: not for minors)
  • Klein's bottle (Score:1)

    by WetCat (558132) on Tuesday July 02 2002, @11:28PM (#3812362)
    I wonder if Klein's bottle emerged waterproof. It will be a great vase for flowers if put to stand.
    I would like to have one, made of glass. Will look gorgeous, especially if made of colored glass.
  • Lego Pieces (Score:2)

    by XBL (305578) on Tuesday July 02 2002, @11:37PM (#3812382)
    Where does this guy get all of these lego blocks? It looks like he has all weird sizes too.

    Maybe he cheats and makes his own lego blocks... ;-)
  • Lego Mandelbrot Set, Anyone? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Peahippo (539266) <peahippo@mail. c o m> on Tuesday July 02 2002, @11:47PM (#3812400) Homepage
    I'm a firm believer in Legos * and am thoroughly convinced that they helped strongly in developing my inquisitive intellect. I still have my Legos from when I was 10.

    Look at 'em: they teach you to design, build, modify, and to have the patience for all of that. Legos are the best thing for the price that I can think of that can spur a young intellect. (Erector Sets were great for that too.) And if you get older and still play with them ... well, here's hoping that the world's first Lego Julia or Mandelbrot set will be made within our lifetimes. Lipson's surface models are just beautiful, so just imagine the beauty of a more sophisticated set.

    BTW, I am down on all this Lego model crap I see in the stores. Give kids a bucket of basic blocks and let them create ... that's the strength and appeal of Legos. However, I admit that the addition of gears makes the entire matter more challenging, perhaps for the 14+ age group.

    * Legos {tm} is the registered trademark of some silly corporation or something like that.
  • Wait a second... (Score:1)

    by niftyeric (467236) on Tuesday July 02 2002, @11:57PM (#3812423)
    ...doesn't his Klein bottle have multiple surfaces? Damn legos!
  • Not to be picky... (Score:3, Informative)

    by carnageonline (94229) on Wednesday July 03 2002, @12:20AM (#3812479)
    Sorry, but technically a klein bottle is a four-dimensional figure (impossible to A) comprehend and B) create). Still looks cool!
  • It's LEGO!!!! (Score:1, Informative)

    by psyconaut (228947) on Wednesday July 03 2002, @12:30AM (#3812497)
    Why do people insist on saying Legos? The plural and singular of the word is: LEGO.

    I think it's the "sheeps" syndrome ;-)

    -psyconaut
  • umm (Score:2)

    by DarkHelmet (120004) <mark@NOspAm.seventhcycle.net> on Wednesday July 03 2002, @12:43AM (#3812530) Homepage
    One dimensional lego objects are cool, but can you make a machine out of them that keeps turning faster and faster?

    Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot that this post obeys the laws of thermodynamics!

  • Legos (Score:2)

    by totallygeek (263191) on Wednesday July 03 2002, @12:44AM (#3812533) Homepage
    As a kid, I couldn't even build the damn lego item on the box the legos came in! Most of the Lego creations I made were used to test fireworks' strengths.

    But, for those interested, here are some other cool Lego sites:

    Stegosaurus [henrylim.org]
    Lego Town [compuserve.com]
    Lego City [sparre.dk]
    Beethoven [henrylim.org]
    Queen Amidala [henrylim.org]
    Audrey Hepburn Wall [henrylim.org]
    Big Clock [ericharshbarger.org]
    Alice in Wonderland [ericharshbarger.org]

    • Hey, baby! by Rupert (Score:2) Wednesday July 03 2002, @09:09AM
  • I built a sphere (Score:1)

    by dfgdfgdfg (577386) on Wednesday July 03 2002, @12:50AM (#3812550)
    I once built a sphere out of lego. It was completely white and I still have it at home; I see it every day.

    I had no computer, not even a graphical calculator, so I had to calculate separately for each dot the distance to the center using and ordinary calculator and the pytogoras formula. The radius was 10 "units". Unfortunately, the unit brick in lego is not a cube. I think to ratio of base to height of these pieces is 5:6. So the sphere now looks more like an ellipsoid. Maybe I should photograph it and put it on the web.

  • by dstone (191334) on Wednesday July 03 2002, @01:58AM (#3812737) Homepage
    Wow. Maybe it's the beer I just drank, but this is truly TRULY the coolest thing /. has shown in some time. Okay, maybe it's not strictly _news_, but WOW.
  • But... (Score:1)

    by IanBevan (213109) on Wednesday July 03 2002, @03:01AM (#3812834) Homepage
    ...can he build a lego page counter than can keep up with the hits from /. ? :)
  • by peterpi (585134) on Wednesday July 03 2002, @03:13AM (#3812860)
    Lego is astonishingly easy to model in a 3d program.

    For inspiration, check http://ben.com/LEGO/ [ben.com] out

  • by AbRASiON (589899) <slashdot.scottylans@com> on Wednesday July 03 2002, @04:09AM (#3812995) Journal
    I'm sure I'm not the first to say it, but that's what it is.
    It always has been, it always will be, you can confirm this on their web site.
    It's like Sheep and Sheep - ok, NEVER call them "LEGOS" it grates people (whiners) like myself intensely.
  • Bah, amateur! :) (Score:2)

    by jonr (1130) on Wednesday July 03 2002, @04:35AM (#3813050) Homepage Journal
    Anybody seen White Stripe's "Fell in Love With a Girl" video? Made entierly out of Lego's, using real Lego set, not CGI, as I thought first.
    You can see it here [mtv.com], along with some info of how it was done.
  • by swaic (541592) on Wednesday July 03 2002, @05:51AM (#3813174)

    For people new to building and need a resources to buy their goodies, here [pitsco-legodacta.com] is a pretty good site. They have just about everything you would need (all different kinds of gears, axles, motor boxes, etc.). Everything you wish the main Lego site sold.
  • Ideal surfaces (Score:1)

    by omnibee (574051) on Wednesday July 03 2002, @06:08AM (#3813209)
    I found it very useful to have ideal surface renderings while contemplating the lego constructions.
    This site has nice rotatable images:

    http://mathworld.wolfram.com/topics/MinimalSurface s.html [wolfram.com]

    Nice job indeed!

  • by FLT (570877) on Wednesday July 03 2002, @06:31AM (#3813256)
    The machine that turns itself off is so cool!! During math-colleges I was completely facinated by this idea and drew cartoon-like scenario pictures of it again and again, dreaming of building it. it probably appeals only to the more math-minded people.

    FLT, not just any theorem.
  • Gabriel's Trumpet (Score:1)

    by e03179 (578506) on Wednesday July 03 2002, @07:01AM (#3813313) Homepage
    Let me know when he has made a model of Gabriel's Trumpet! Now, that would be something!
  • mmmmm yeah that's what I'm talkin bout.
  • ...when I can get a Lego model of a singularity
  • Here's the un-hrefed link.

    http://www.lipsons.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/index.ht m
    [ Parent ]
  • actually (Score:3, Funny)

    by Catskul (323619) <andy.somerville@g[ ]l.com ['mai' in gap]> on Tuesday July 02 2002, @10:05PM (#3812154)

    Actually, he mentions building something to amuse his 5 year old son,
    so I imagine that he IS married...

    He must have a very patient wife : )
    [ Parent ]
    • Re:actually by The_dev0 (Score:1) Tuesday July 02 2002, @10:43PM
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  • by Tablizer (95088) on Tuesday July 02 2002, @10:57PM (#3812284) Homepage Journal
    (* The Plural of Lego is, um, Lego.... Much like fish or sheep. *)

    You mean I have to take "fishies" and "sheeps" off of my resume?

    That could explain the lack of responses.
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