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'Q' Plays US GameCube Games

Posted by michael on Mon Dec 17, 2001 07:06 AM
from the things-to-do-with-a-soldering-iron dept.
Bodero writes: "Lik-Sang is reporting that Panasonic's 'Q', the Japan-only GameCube/DVD Hybrid, can be modded to play US GameCube games much in the same way that the Japanese GameCube can be. This does not, however, allow it to play region one DVDs as of yet, but keep your eyes out. It's a shame Panasonic chose not to release it to North American store shelves, but the import will soon work just as well."
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  • Why is it? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 17 2001, @07:11AM (#2714237)
    Why is it Japan keeps getting these cool Japan only products? I mean, why sell a diffrent inferior version for the rest of the world? Doesn't it cost them more to R&D a diffrent U.S. product? Why not sell us the good stuff?
    • Re:Why is it? by CatherineCornelius (Score:1) Monday December 17 2001, @10:25AM
      • Re:Why is it? by bartok (Score:1) Monday December 17 2001, @01:51PM
      • Re:Why is it? by Cryptnotic (Score:2) Monday December 17 2001, @06:22PM
        • Re:Why is it? by CatherineCornelius (Score:1) Monday December 17 2001, @07:02PM
    • Re:Why is it? by Kalidor (Score:1) Monday December 17 2001, @02:27PM
    • Re:Why is it? by fatgraham (Score:1) Monday December 17 2001, @03:19PM
    • 'cause by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Monday December 17 2001, @08:26PM
    • Re:Why is it? by SquierStrat (Score:1) Monday December 17 2001, @07:28AM
      • Re:Why is it? by mrpotato (Score:1) Tuesday December 18 2001, @06:26PM
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    • Re:Why is it? by ethereal (Score:1) Monday December 17 2001, @11:51AM
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  • Surely.. (Score:3, Insightful)

    by NirishChas (543913) on Monday December 17 2001, @07:16AM (#2714251)
    Panasonic is set to lose a _lot_ of money after these new developments. Is there any real point in only releasing it in one place only for it to be ripped apart and distributed abroad when they could make their own profit if they played their cards right?
    • Marketing. (Score:5, Insightful)

      by brunes69 (86786) <[slashdot] [at] [keirstead.org]> on Monday December 17 2001, @07:27AM (#2714277) Homepage

      The reason is simple, marketing. Advertising and promoting a product costs alot. If products were released in NA and Japan at the same time, that would mean twice the marketing budget for a product that hasn't proven itself yet. By doing a release in Japan first, they can do to things: 1) They make sure the product is cost feasable enough to market in the US, and 2) They can use the revenues coming in off of the Japanese sales to drive the US marketing effort, which is guarenteed to be much more expensive.

      Another reason alot of stuff isn't released in the US is because marketing studies (and common logic) dictate alot of stuff thats succesfull in the techno-gadget culture of Japan isn't as successfull this side of the Pacific. Don't forget, the /. , gadget buying crowd is in a vast majority over here, but not so over there. Everyone and their dog has a cell-phone-PDA-GPS-wearable-pc-doohicky!

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      • 3DO by Snover (Score:1) Tuesday December 18 2001, @04:44PM
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  • Import games (Score:1, Redundant)

    by LinuxGeek (6139) <linuxgeek@@@djand...com> on Monday December 17 2001, @07:18AM (#2714258)
    Why do companies play these games? You can look at the cool products that they sell in Japan or Europe but they won't import them. Do they sell them for more with the exclusivity factored in? Bah... I didn't want anyway, nope wouldn't take one if they gave it to me now. Yeah, maybe if we don't want them, imports will start right away.
    • Re:Import games by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Monday December 17 2001, @07:23AM
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    • Re:Import games (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Bilestoad (60385) on Monday December 17 2001, @07:30AM (#2714288)
      Why do companies play these games?

      Easy - to test markets. Internationalizing a product, even if it is only translation of manuals and text is surprisingly expensive. That doesn't even begin to consider research into cultural differences - know what "nova" in Spanish means? It didn't do Chevrolet any good using that name in South America. Or there's the Coca Cola name in China.

      The rest of the world (and you probably mean the USA) is a huge market but what works in Europe or Japan isn't necessarily going to work here, just look at the huge market for video-capable cell phones in Japan and compare the screens we live with. If it is a huge success then you can be sure we'll get the product, when it looks like US sales will show a profit.
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    • Re:Import games by MisterBlister (Score:1) Monday December 17 2001, @07:50AM
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  • Well if panasonic is like sony... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by SquierStrat (42516) on Monday December 17 2001, @07:18AM (#2714260) Homepage
    then whoever puts out information on how to mod it out, or anyone who sells mod chips of any kind will get sued! :-(
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 17 2001, @07:22AM (#2714266)
    Then M probably plays PSII games.

    Which means 007 himself must be left with the x-box. Ouch.
  • He does? (Score:3, Funny)

    by Xpilot (117961) on Monday December 17 2001, @07:42AM (#2714307) Homepage
    Oh wait, I thought you meant this guy [u-net.com].

    You'd think he'd have better things to do, like bug Jean-Luc.
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  • What about european games? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Gerein (169540) on Monday December 17 2001, @07:58AM (#2714341)
    Does this modification work for european games, too?
    This would be interesting, because Europe and Japan share the same DVD-Regioncode (RC2). So, while this won't help american players much, it might be very interesting fo european ones.
  • by Juln (41313) on Monday December 17 2001, @08:24AM (#2714382) Homepage Journal
    My girlfriend was disappointed that the gamecube could not also function as a DVD player.
    Perhaps I can get her one of these, and take my gamecube back here, into my lair, with my computer! Where it belongs! Grahaha
    Away from the vile, fuzzy television.
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  • by hyyx (447405) <{moc.ppns} {ta} {ykc}> on Monday December 17 2001, @08:24AM (#2714383) Homepage
    If anyone is lazy enough to not read the article, here is a link that should of been posted in the blurb [pictures of the Q's guts]:

    http://www.lik-sang.com/catalog/master.php?navbar= Opened+Q&inc=qmod.inc [lik-sang.com]
  • What's Up With This? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by hyyx (447405) <{moc.ppns} {ta} {ykc}> on Monday December 17 2001, @09:12AM (#2714517) Homepage
    Take a look at this link [panasonic.com] to a Panasonic sweepstakes where they are giving away actual Nintendo Gamecube units with an additional TV/VCR/DVD Combo unit. Why aren't they promoting their own 'Q' units, which combined this technology into one unit?
  • PowerPC or what? (Score:1)

    by Squib (124309) on Monday December 17 2001, @09:46AM (#2714643) Homepage
    Does anybody know what sort of processor the 'Q' is using? Is it the custom-designed PowerPC that IBM did for Nintendo, or is it something else? And if it's not, will this affect gameplay in any way?
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  • by Win-Developer (316016) on Monday December 17 2001, @10:03AM (#2714691)
    It's a shame Panasonic chose not to release it to North American store shelves, but the import will soon work just as well.

    Please try and get your facts straight. I was previously reported on all the gaming websites that Nintendo didn't want the Panasonic DVD-Cube coming to the U.S.. Nintendo intended that the Gamecube be solely a video game console, not a Console/DVD player here in the States.
  • Will be here soon enough... (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 17 2001, @11:01AM (#2714954)
    My understanding from an article I read earlier was that Nintendo did not want compatible products released in the US market before the Xmas season. Supposedly they feared it would cause confusion in the marketplace, and wanted some time for the GameCube to establish itself before the brand was diluted by compatible units. I believe there will be an American version of this device in the near future.
  • by Maul (83993) on Monday December 17 2001, @11:10AM (#2715008) Journal
    Really, I don't think a DVD player is really a
    selling feature of a console for most people.
    Sure, the DVD playback feature on my Playstation 2
    is nice. I suppose that on a system the size of the Game Cube, DVD player capability coupled with a portable screen like Interact would make a good system for a road trip.

    However, my consoles are in the living room. In my place there are 5 different machines capable of playing DVDs. After a while, the DVD feature isn't a big deal.
  • by LordXarph (38837) on Monday December 17 2001, @11:18AM (#2715047) Homepage
    Short answer: Nintendo fears american warez kiddies.

    Long answer: Most of the copy protection surrounding the Gamecube revolves around its 3 inch DVDs. The reason Nintendo picked an odd (but still standard) is the complete lack of blanks at that size. This will, for a little while at least, keep the Gamecube from having games copied, as DVD-R blanks won't fit in the machine.

    Now we have the Q, which is a Gamecube modified to play DVD movies. DVD movies come on 5 inch discs. There are blank DVDs that are 5 inches. What will inevitably happen if the Q is released here is that warez kiddies will copy 3 inch Gamecube discs onto 5 inch DVD blanks, and run them on a modchipped Q. The whole bet Nintendo is hedging is that 3 inch blank DVDs will not be available for a while, and when they are, they will be prohibitively expensive to keep piracy at a minimum for a few more years, which is the expected lifespan of the GC.

    -Lx?
  • by t0qer (230538) on Monday December 17 2001, @03:06PM (#2716174) Homepage Journal

    The other day my buddy took me out to the San Jose Berryessa flea market to show me some of these [gamersgraveyard.com]. I don't know what kind of breakdown we've had in customs, but it looks like more and more knockoff's are going to start pouring into the states. Although this piece of hardware isn't a knockoff, it shouldn't take too long for these to be snuck through customs.

  • Why was this made in the first place? Consoles are notorious for being sold and just cost or being sold at a loss in order to recoup on proceeds from liscensing of games?

    I'm pretty certain that Panasonic is not gaining any funds from liscensing GameCube games because Nintendo would probably have something to say about that. Then this is either a product that will 1. fail horribly or 2. costs quite a bit more than average (see #1).

  • actually... (Score:2)

    by linuxpng (314861) on Monday December 17 2001, @08:05PM (#2717613)
    they won't release that version here because that means there is greater possibilty to pirate the games here. Japan, apparently, doesn't have quite the piracy problem that the US does.
    • Re:actually... by Ionized (Score:1) Tuesday December 18 2001, @09:58AM
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  • Q -- What it is and what it is not (Score:2, Insightful)

    by fssd (23137) on Monday December 17 2001, @11:32PM (#2718244)
    Q is consist of 2 component, dvd player; and Nitendo GameCube. They are totally seperated. You need to select from the panel that you want the DVD function; or the GameCube function. ie. it won't detect what you have inserted. It kind of disappoint me..
  • more info on Q's (Score:1)

    by CowNutsMack (533002) on Wednesday December 19 2001, @11:19PM (#2730363) Homepage
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