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CrossOver Plugin 1.0 Demo Version
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Hemos
on Mon Nov 05, 2001 03:14 PM
from the look-at-the-purty-pictures dept.
from the look-at-the-purty-pictures dept.
jwnewman writes "CodeWeavers has released the Demo version of CrossOver plugin." I bought the regular version when it first came out, just to try it out. It's pretty impressive - I've only had some problems with it under Konqueror, but that's had more to do with my plugin setup. The demo version is a full version, but with nags in it. It's well worth checking out.
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Programs Like These (Score:5, Insightful)
AJ
Re:Programs Like These (Score:5, Insightful)
Honestly, though, these sort of tools may ultimately hurt the free operating system world because it means that the companies that write the 'doze only software will be less likely to write ports to alternate OS's.
Regardless, I would love to have workign DirectX stuff
I dunno.... (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:I dunno.... (Score:5, Funny)
Reasonably priced.. (Score:3, Interesting)
Maybe they should have some 'home' (non-business) site license for about $25 ;-)
A good way to profit from free software? (Score:5, Informative)
My question is whether others out there think this is a good software model? Personally I think it is. They have identified a genuine lack of service which they provide. They provide this service by building on open source technology, namely wine, and then provide a closed for profit products on top of this technology. The revenue generated by these products allow for greater development in the underlying tech (again namely wine) while still providing the desired service, the Windows plugin support.
Aside from the "well these plugins are free on windows, we shouldn't have to pay for a product that lets us use them in Linux" comments. Do people have anything else they'd like to say about the CrossOver plugins or their business model?
bought it but (Score:1)
Re:bought it but (Score:4, Informative)
Then click MIME Settings and unselect anything you don't want QuickTime to take over. (I think more recent QuickTime versions don't intercept PNG by default.)
Winzip (Score:2, Redundant)
So basically, this will be like Winzip: everyone uses it, nobody pays for it. I wonder how long until the crack comes out...
Download FTP Link (Score:1, Informative)
Satisfied User (Score:4, Informative)
I purchased Crossover [codeweavers.com] several weeks ago and have been completely satisfied. Quicktime [apple.com] works great. Being able to watch the Fellowship of the Ring [apple.com] trailer on Linux is great! Shockwave [macromedia.com] works well for many sites. (In particular, Shockwave plugins for stuff like 3D has problems.) Codeweaver's tech support mailing list is great, the developers reply quickly and are very helpful.
While I would prefer that Crossover be free software [fsf.org], at least Codeweavers [codeweavers.com] is contributing most of their improvements back to the main Wine [winehq.com] project. Pretty much only the Crossover plugin itself is proprietary software. Buying Crossover is a great way to support the development of Wine and get Quicktime support on Linux right now.
Re:Satisfied User (Score:4, Insightful)
Why? Does it look any better than watching it on Windows? Was it easier?
It looks the same. Compared to rebooting into Windows, it's significantly easier.
I spend most of my time under Linux. I used only reboot into Windows for games and Quicktime. Now I only reboot into Windows for games. (And thanks to my Playstation 2, I don't boot into Windows for games very often any more.)
Why not just get Windows?
I have Windows, but I don't like it. I'm perfectly happy working under Linux. Crossover allows me to satisify my desire to watch Quicktime videos under Linux. Seems like a good match to me.
Why support a software vendor that refuses to support your favorite platform?
Because I'm a realist. Maybe as Linux's share grows we'll see Quicktime for Linux, but that's not going to happen in the near future. Refusing to use non-native software does nothing to improve the situation.
Or do you consider "it doesn't break under Wine" to be good enough?
I use Linux. I want to watch Quicktime videos. Apple is not going to port Quicktime Player to Linux in the forseeable future. Crossover solves my problem. So yes, it's good enough for now. One step at a time...
this seems kind of iffy... (Score:2, Insightful)
Hamster Havoc! (Score:1)
Exceptional timing, folks (Score:3, Informative)
Capitalize on all the frustrated geeks and their inability to find a non-Linux box to view the teaser.
Lemonade always sells better when it's hot outside.
Experiences with Crossover (Score:5, Informative)
Performance is, for the most part, indistinguishable from a native Windows version on my 900MhZ Athlon. I understand that there is some initial delay the first time the plugin is started on slower machines. It's been fine for me though.
Netscape *seems* to be a touch more unstable with the plugin installed. There are occasional long delays but I have not confirmed that this is not just some DNS timeout or other Netscape instability (I'm running 4.78... I have not tried installing on 6.1).
Spread of Mal-formed code (Score:3, Funny)
I am guessing it is only a matter of time before someone writes code that will wreak havoc on the linux community.
damn nice stuff. (Score:3, Informative)
First time I've been truly impressed with some piece of software for Linux in the past nine months or so, and this is to the point where twenty bucks for the full version seems like it's UNDER priced.
Download the installer, run it, press a few buttons inside the config gui, and suddenly you can watch all the movies on quicktime.com.. with no stuttering or slowness.
Damn fine piece of work guys.
CrossingOver Plugin (Score:5, Funny)
missing something (Score:1)
OK, OK (Score:1, Funny)
It works (Score:1)
really anoying nags. (Score:1)
One for every window you have open too.
Friendly reminder screens as they are called couldn't be further from the truth.
The quicktime pluggin seems to be working fairly well.
It's not really usable unless u buy it i guess.
Not too bad if you're using the player and not the plugin, since you can move the screen away from the nagboxes and still view it.
Another happy user... (Score:5, Informative)
They made a point of telling the truth about their product and are making all due effort to support and enhance it. Great company who are doing a needed service for the Community. Not only that, they are a major supporter of the wine project. Got a few bucks? They deserve our support.
As for me, the software has been absolutely flawless. I did have some issues on a Mandrake box but it ended up being Crossover was fighing a battle with Plugger. One minor plugin deletion / restart later it installed like a dream.
Support the community! They deserve it!
Is this legal? (Score:1)
This "could" have been real progress for switching (Score:4, Interesting)
Oh well, it's still cool news.
I got it at LinuxWorld Expo in SF and... (Score:1)
Yeah, it's a little slow but it's worth it to be able to watch Quicktime movies on my Linux Box. My friend and I both bought a copy because it isn't re-distributable but he sees potential for using it for other plug-in installations so it may be more useful than first thought.
If you've got the $20 to spare then grab it. It probably won't be the worst $20 spent in your life even if you don't use it much.
Depends on your needs... (Score:2)
Otherwise, I'd say until Linux is there (and I hate to say it, but it's not, yet) than either dual boot, or think about another machine for your "day to day" stuff, and other for whatever reason...
I've always said, use the best tool to get the job done. If you're compromising here or there, than you're not really doing that.
For those that need it... (Score:3, Insightful)
Personally, I don't have a real need for this product, so I won't be buying it - I really don't ever see many QT trailers or whatnot to justify it, and all the Shockwave stuff can go out the window as well - give me quality content and information, I say.
I would much rather see the development of an open source video codec on par with Sorensen, and have it become well developed and widely used, but I tend to doubt such will happen, as so much of the tech involved in such an endevor is locked up in patents.
My main concern about such software (like this plugin) is that related to security - whether any exploits could be run against it to gain root access, or something. I tend to doubt this, and if you are running as a user, and you have a good firewall you should be mostly protected - but it is something I always have in the back of my mind...
Oh great! (Score:1)
universally readable web pages to proprietary formats.
Finnaly a company that gets it! (Score:4, Insightful)
This is something that developers have needed to do forever. Forget the RPM vs DEB vs Tarball wars and make it easy for the user dammit!
We all gripe about Micro$oft developing software that is just bloated eye candy with crappy (or no) guts. IMHO Linux developers have been too busy neating up the guts to notice that no one uses their program beacuse it takes two friggin days to satisfy all of the needed dependancies just to compile and then annother two to figure out where the damn thing's files should reside.
Oh ya, after the install the product actually works as advertised too.
These guys get my $20!!! Kudos Codeweavers!
how a REAL UNIX user would do it (Score:3, Insightful)
Of course I'm sure some Dennis Ritchie wannabe is gonna reply to this and tell me how to do it with piping (you know you want to).
I tried it, its well worth it (Score:3, Interesting)
On a side note they don't disable the demo after 30 days. It looks like its more of an on your honor system. But it does put little messages to buy the software at the beginning of the movies. (At least in quicktime).
Again though, this looks like it was well worth it and the $20 goes to Wine.
I probably won't use it (Score:2)
On balance, I'd say: don't use it unless you really have a very compelling need. View MS Office documents in StarOffice or AbiWord and submit bug reports for any problems you find; that's how those programs get better. As for Quicktime, complain to the web site using it and ask them to use an open format instead (in fact, do that whether or not you actually have a Quicktime viewer).
CrossOver Plugin 1.0.1 released (NEW) (Score:2, Informative)
List of Fixes in 1.0.1
Doesn't completely work for me (Score:1)
So it still has a few rough edges. If it worked flawlessly, they would get my money right away...
Multimedia Viewing under Linux.. (Score:1)
At least one bug in Crossover (Score:2)
Aside from that, it works great (although Apple seems to have found a way to make the Quicktime 5 plugin never cache a downloaded movie on your local machine, which is annoying as fuck -- I want to view it whenever I want, without having to re-download it every time. Can you say "waste of bandwidth"?). I don't know if I'd use the Crossover plugin enough to justify paying for it, but we'll see.
Codeweavers Wine (Score:1)
inquiring minds want to know.
My 2 cents (Score:2)
Those "friendly reminders" are anything but. Damned annoying, IMO. Also, my fonts in Flash animations looked suspiciously like the default font in Netscape (I use Moz0.9.5) after I installed it. I uninstalled it after a few short minutes, mostly because of the annoying reminders, and the Flash fonts reverted back to their previous appearance.
While I do appreciate the usefulness of this product, Flash and Real already work for me, and that added to the annoying font issue make it not worth my $19.95 yet.
YMMV...........
blah...skipstone problems... (Score:1)
even though mozilla works fine.
it's great, but... (Score:1)
distros (Score:1)
Streaming videos in NC4.78? (Score:2)
Thank you in advance.
wait long enough and there will be a free equiv... (Score:1)
Re:Sweet! (Score:2, Insightful)
The demo just has the annoying msgs that appear over the movie, they do go away so you can see the full thing but atleast the msgs are semi-entertaining....
-Torawk
Re:If it ever gets ported to Solaris... (Score:2)
You won't see it on Solaris. Ever (unless maybe while on a LSD type trip Codeweavers ports Wine to Solaras x86.)
Wine is tighed as tightly to x86 as Windows is. But Wine does have features for setting up a wine server type thing for other platforms. I don't know the full details though.
But anything you run under wine is just an X11 client, so export DISPLAY=etc:0 and you're off and running...
Re:Microsoft Media Player ? (Score:2)