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Earth to Media: This kid is still in jail

Posted by JonKatz on Tue Jul 31, 2001 10:30 AM
from the -using-copyright-to-undermine-free-speech- dept.
The popular media's coverage of the Dmitri Sklyarov case is a scandal. 26-year-old programmer and encryption gadfly Sklyarov has been languishing in jail for almost two weeks now, and the popular media has paid almost no attention to his truly outrageous arrest. It's a case that has the ugliest implications not only for the press (online and off) but for open discussion of technology, and especially for the First Amendment, now clearly being undermined in the name of copyright protection by the DMCA. This is the opposite of what copyright law was meant to do.

When reporters were threatened with law enforcement pressure and jail during the Watergate and Pentagon Papers cases, whole forests were felled in the pre-digital age with stories, books, even movies about courageous reporters fighting for the First Amendment against government oppression. Not a single reporter was jailed in those cases, not even for an hour, even though many broke federal and other laws in gathering the information they reported.

You won't see any discussion of Dmitri Sklyarov on Washington talk shows, the evening news, or the cover of the weekly newsmagazines. But he is stuck in jail.

He was arrested by the FBI two weeks ago for writing and selling a program that allegedly violates the Digital Millenium Copyright Act, just after giving a lecture detailing alleged weaknesses in Adobe's electronic book software.

There is hardly a single serious lawyer or constitutional scholar who doesn't see the dangers of this twisted use of the DMCA. "The DMCA outlaws technologies designed to circumvent other technologies that protect copyrighted material," wrote Lawrence Lessig in the New York Times this week. "It is law protecting software code protecting copyright. The trouble, however, is that technologies that protect copyrighted material are never as subtle as the law of copyright. Copyright law permits fair use of copyrighted material; technologies that protect copyrighted material need not. Copyright law protects for a limited time; technologies have no such limit."

Thus, cautions Lessig, a law professor at Stanford, when the DMCA protects technology that in turns protects copyrighted material, it can -- as in the Sklyarov case -- offer protection that is much broader than copyright law was meant to be. It criminalizes what would be legal under existing copyright law, including certain kinds of criticism and speech and research. This law is a top-to-bottom creation of entertainment companies working with their hired lawyers and lobbyists to curb the flow of information online for profit. It was not enacted in the public interest, or even in the best interests of copyright. Lessig and others have pointed out that Sklyarov's software violated no one's copyright, even if it runs afoul of the DMCA.

In the Sklyarov case, there are several noxious consequences. His arrest chills criticism of software, and of new technologies and the powerful companies that create them. It also undermines security -- one of the very things the DMCA is supposed to protect. How can weaknesses and flaws in security and encryption programs be discovered if they can't be shared, discussed or explored?

Example: a staple feature of newspaper reporters in big cities is to go to local airports annually and test security procedures by carrying toy guns, knives or unloaded weapons into terminals. Although they could technically be charged under federal laws prohibiting such behavior, they are not. These reporters are never prosecuted. That's because courts have repeatedly ruled that the reporters are carrying out activities that are protected by the First Amendment -- they are stretching or even breaking regulations on behalf of the public welfare. Within limits (most public safety grounds) courts have protected this kind of activity. Just because Sklyarov is a hacker doesn't mean he's not acting as a journalist, or entitled to journalistic protections.

This is a corporate perversion of the original intent of copyright law, meant to protect authors for a limited time so that they would have some financial incentive to generate ideas, which then entered the public domain so that they could receive the widest possible distribution. It was never the intention of the authors of American copyright law to sell ideas and intellectual property to greedy corporations in perpetuity, especially at the expense of free speech and the ability to criticize powerful institutions.

In April, Princeton Professor Edward Felten, an encryption researcher, received a letter from record industry lawyers warning him that a paper he was about to present at a hacker conference -- the paper described the weaknesses of an encryption system -- could subject him to criminal actions under the DMCA. Felten withdrew the paper, and is now the lead plaintiff in a lawsuit challenging the DMCA on First Amendment grounds.

None of this helps Sklyarov, who remains in jail. Were he a reporter for the Washington Post or New York Times challenging claims of Microsoft or Adobe or Disney, you can only imagine the media furor, and the pressure being brought to bear on politicians and federal officials to get him out. It would certainly be loud enough to help ensure his release while lawyers get to slug out what ought clearly to be a civil, not a criminal, issue.

The failure to connect his case with their own rights and traditions is a colossal media blunder, short-sighted and self-destructive. If the DMCA stands, and people like Dmitri Sklyarov are tossed into jail because they criticized the code, claims or procedures of powerful corporations or institutions based on research these institutions believe should remain private and proprietary, then the entertainment lobby will have done the unthinkable. They will have permanently altered the First Amendment and the protection it has always accorded free, controversial and offensive speech. And the Net will become a very different kind of place, not only for coders and hackers but for any person who loves the unique freedom it has offered for nearly a generation.

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  • Re:Quitcherbitchin by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:41AM
  • STOP Bashing Jon Katz by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:46AM
  • Huh? by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:51AM
  • Re:I can see evil with my own eyes. by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:06AM
  • Re:FP by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:12AM
  • Re:Why haven't any reporters... by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:51AM
  • Re:OT:PMRC and record labelling by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:18AM
  • Re:Yes, and? by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:31AM
  • Re:So? by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:39AM
  • Re:Now, If everyone were to read & rank this artic by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @11:09AM
  • Re:Earth to medicthree by Anonymous Coward (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:57AM
  • Re:The major news outlets are owned by big media by mosch (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:30AM
  • You're surprised? by Mike Hicks (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:06AM
  • Re:This is nothing new by David Greene (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:37AM
  • Re:And in other news by Skyshadow (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:35AM
  • Something to do: by Eric Green (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:51AM
  • Not changed that much by Eric Green (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:58AM
  • Low risk stock by Eric Green (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @02:30PM
  • Re:The major news outlets are owned by big media by shogun (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @04:24PM
  • Re:DMCA is the Fourth Reich by shogun (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @04:55PM
  • Guy will rot in jail? The Register says otherwise. by emil (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:17AM
  • Re:The major news outlets are owned by big media by bluGill (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:27AM
  • Re:Why haven't any reporters... by Tim Doran (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:52AM
  • by defile (1059) on Tuesday July 31 2001, @11:56AM (#2179765) Homepage Journal

    Making these tools illegal won't stop people from violating copyright law.

    Copyright law doesn't even stop most people from violating copyright law. Just because massive software piracy outfits are now violating TWO laws means that they'll stop? Give me a break.

    The DMCA does not help a company defend it's copyrights at all. What it does is give them COPY CONTROL. With the simplest "encryption" algorithm you can now 100% put a stop to reverse engineering, totally eliminating your competitors if you happen to have created an industry standard protocol.

    Think of it as patenting the most ridiculously easy algorithm without actually requiring a patent or an original idea. IIRC, Real Networks won a case based on the DMCA because they set 1 bit in their packet headers that means "ENCRYPTED", even though the rest of the packet is identitical to the unencrypted form.

    It is meant to squelch competition. Be it from individuals in research, open source hackers, or other proprietary software giants. Retail piracy outfits (like the ones in China) will be affected in no way whatsoever by the DMCA. Everyone else will.

  • Re:The major news outlets are owned by big media by Dicky (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:56AM
  • Re:Sometimes it makes me sad by Malc (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:49AM
  • Re:Is this a big story in Russia? by DK (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @01:34PM
  • by Plutor (2994) on Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:42AM (#2179769) Homepage
    The reason this isn't being reported as the travesty it truly is is that the public doesn't really understand copyright issues or the DMCA, and they don't really care either. The public would hear this story and think "So, a hacker(sic) got arrested for hacking a product. He was arrested under federal law, and he's now in jail. I hated it when my files were deleted by the virus, so these laws are a good thing."
  • by Kaneda (3744) on Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:25AM (#2179770)
    There is a well-known book out called 'For God, Country, and Coca Cola' which published the formula years ago.
    No one went to jail, the sun came up the next day, and the sky did not fall on our heads.
    To compare something as far-fetched as the possible imprisonment of someone publishing a formula which is already out there to the real imprisonment of Dmitry is irresponsible.
    How can you somehow justify the fact that he is locked away as some sort of reward for his behaviour by contructing this 'equivalent' scenario which is not even vaguely related?

  • Re:Now, If everyone were to read & rank this artic by PhilHibbs (Score:2) Wednesday August 01 2001, @04:09AM
  • Re:The major news outlets are owned by big media by Rasputin (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:41AM
  • notes to Jon by J05H (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:47AM
  • Someone surmised on the list that he's not even had contact with the Russian consulate, much less a decent bail hearing. So has anyone else tried to contact the Russian Embassy on his behalf to try to get an alternate press coverage (since the press seems to ignore geeks and keep it to geek humor, maybe a statement by the Russian Government will get the mainstream media's attention)?
    --
    You know, you gotta get up real early if you want to get outta bed... (Groucho Marx)
  • Re:Well let's let them know! by garcia (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:22AM
  • OT: What about his legal status? by NullPointer (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:49AM
  • Re:Earth to JK: by NullPointer (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:01AM
  • Don't quite agree by JonKatz (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:30AM
  • P.S. by JonKatz (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:32AM
  • Op-ed ghettos and self-interest by JonKatz (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:35AM
  • Is Sklyarov a journalist? by JonKatz (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:44AM
  • Beyond The Choir by JonKatz (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:48AM
  • The story is not sexy. by desslok (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @12:19PM
  • Re:Nerd Strike by scrytch (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:30AM
  • Re:Remember hanlon's razor ... by scrytch (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:46AM
  • Re:first ammendment.. what?? by scrytch (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:49AM
  • typical Press.. by Lumpy (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:37AM
  • Is this a big story in Russia? by Mr. Flibble (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:16AM
  • 'Scuse the heck outta me... by Hiawatha (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:40AM
  • Lots of media coverage... by Hiawatha (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:49AM
  • Re:Lots of media coverage... by Hiawatha (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:51AM
  • Re:Yah, but ... (Score:3)

    by ScottyB (13347) on Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:55AM (#2179792)
    Perhaps, but I think that is unlikely. Apply Occam's Razor to the situation; is it more likely that the big media companies are conspiring all the way down to the editorial and reporter level to prevent Joe Public from reading about the case in the morning paper, or is it more likely that Joe Reporter and Joe Editor in general do not know much about technology and law issues (not to mention does Joe Law-Column-Writer knows about the technology issues involved?) to be able to understand the nuances of the story?

    Also, consider an editor's take on the issue; even if the editor does understand the technology and law nuances, does he think that his audience will understand well enough to make a story worthwhile or newsworthy?

    The bottom line is that YOU, the audience, need to start writing more letters-to-the-editor and op-ed submissions to make the editors and reporters realize the importance of the issue instead of laying back and producing conspiracy theories as to why the issue has not appeared in mainstream media.

    I can cite all sorts of foreign (to Americans) news, including civil wars in Central and South America, kidnappings of American citizens abroad, etc. that never even make it to the "World Summary" columns of your major newspapers because the editors do not seem to think that it is newsworthy. There are stories about it; you can go to the Voice of America [voanews.com] and read a lot of the wire copy that the major media outlets certainly get as well, but the bottom line is it is deemed "un-newsworthy" for Joe Public.
  • first ammendment.. what?? by josepha48 (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:35AM
  • Re:first ammendment.. what?? by josepha48 (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @01:41PM
  • Re:first ammendment.. what?? by josepha48 (Score:2) Wednesday August 01 2001, @06:20PM
  • Laws, jurisdiction and COMMON SENSE by Hammer (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:02AM
  • Re:e.g. they tried to legislate the value of PI on by Hammer (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:30AM
  • Re:Why haven't any reporters... by BeBoxer (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:14AM
  • Re:Chomsky and Herman would disagree..... by eostrom (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @12:34PM
  • Re:[OT]Re:And in other news by rark (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @01:06PM
  • Re:[OT]Re:And in other news by rark (Score:2) Thursday August 02 2001, @10:11AM
  • Return of the Blue Ribbon Campaign? by Midnight Thunder (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:47AM
  • Kid? by SpacePunk (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @10:10AM
  • Re:The major news outlets are owned by big media by judlew (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @12:03PM
  • Re:Bizarre Theory by Katravax (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:30AM
  • Re:OT:PMRC and record labelling by Katravax (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:28AM
  • Re:[OT]Re:And in other news by Moofie (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @05:08PM
  • Maybe if Dmitri were to by r2ravens (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:36AM
  • Re:Not always by MindStalker (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:08AM
  • Re:But why do we trust Slashdot? by Robert S Gormley (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @04:04PM
  • [OT]Re:And in other news by gmhowell (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:26AM
  • Re:The ACLU by gmhowell (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:29AM
  • Re:Wake UP! by gmhowell (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:33AM
  • Re:Laws, jurisdiction and COMMON SENSE by alkali (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @03:59PM
  • Re:This is nothing new by rking (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @10:45AM
  • Re:What should people do? by tippergore (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @10:29AM
  • Full-page Ad by Hobart (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:43AM
  • by Hobart (32767) on Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:29AM (#2179818) Homepage Journal
    The Wall Street Journal Contact Page [wsj.com] (print edition) says nywireroom@dowjones.com [mailto] is where to send press releases, and letter.editor@edit.wsj.com [mailto] is where to send letters to the Editor.
    The New York Times [nytimes.com] contact page says to go here [nytimes.com] for letters and here [nytimes.com] for op-ed pieces.
    You know, I wonder how much full-page ads are in these papers ... maybe someone can organize a paypal-chip-in campaign to take out some full page ads letting people know about this?
  • Re:Why haven't any reporters... by VP (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @05:57PM
  • Wake Up idiots! by proclus (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:57AM
  • Re:Wake Up idiots! by proclus (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:19AM
  • Re:Journalism is not independent enough by Absynthe (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:05AM
  • Re:Coca extract? by Absynthe (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:19AM
  • Re:This is nothing new by Absynthe (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:52AM
  • Re:Doh! by slickwillie (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:26AM
  • by gorilla (36491) on Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:47AM (#2179826)
    Actually no you wouldn't. The coca cola secret formula was published in the book "Big Secrets: The Uncensored Truth About All Sorts of Stuff You Are Never Supposed to Know [amazon.com]", by William Poundstone, along with the blend of 11 secret herbs & spices, and other 'secrets'.
  • Re:This is nothing new by mgoff (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:57AM
  • Re:Why haven't any reporters... by Malcontent (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:42PM
  • Let this be a lesson to us all by r_newman (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @11:14PM
  • Re:Earth to Slashdot by Steve B (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:08AM
  • Re:Sorry, this brief would lose in court... by Steve B (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:28AM
  • Media Coverage? by Cruciform (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:09AM
  • Re:Lemme get this straight.... by Cruciform (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:57AM
  • Re:Lemme get this straight.... by Cruciform (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @11:55AM
  • emailing the big fish by Cruciform (Score:1) Wednesday August 01 2001, @08:34AM
  • Re:Here's coke's formula: by visigoth (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:44AM
  • Re:March on Washington: Would you go? by cr0sh (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:34AM
  • Re:How to get the media's attention by Afterimage (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:58AM
  • Times have changed with the press. by laetus (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:49AM
  • protests in the UK by Joe_NoOne (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:46AM
  • Re: What about by Golden Eagle (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:00AM
  • FP by r2q2 (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:33AM
  • Media on the other side -- was Re:FP by tapiwa (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:08AM
  • Re:This is nothing new by tapiwa (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:14AM
  • Re:Woah, COOL! by tapiwa (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:34AM
  • American wrongly held in Russia. How about a trade by sometwo (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:50AM
  • Funny how not even Adobe wants him in jail by bigchris (Score:1) Wednesday August 01 2001, @02:41AM
  • Re:Woah, COOL! by JodoKaast (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @10:54AM
  • Social Security (OT) by bnenning (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:55AM
  • Re:Journalism is not independent enough by Pauley_24 (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:07AM
  • Other good articles in a reputable UK newspaper by xiox (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:50AM
  • Re:Remember hanlon's razor ... by karb (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @11:52AM
  • Remember hanlon's razor ... by karb (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:03AM
  • Re:Remember hanlon's razor ... by karb (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @11:50AM
  • Re:Yah, but ... by SirSlud (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:26AM
  • Re:Why haven't any reporters... by SirSlud (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:59AM
  • Re:Media Problem is Systemic: No Conspiracy Requir by SirSlud (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @12:08PM
  • Re:Why haven't any reporters... by SirSlud (Score:2) Tuesday August 07 2001, @12:12PM
  • Yah, but ... (Score:4)

    by SirSlud (67381) on Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:41AM (#2179859) Homepage
    Wondering why the big media outlets havn't advertised the scandal is like wondering why the Army doesn't hand out "War Kills People" brochures. The big media outlets are controled by the content providers, and the content providers want this kid nailed to the wall. It's as simple as that. Sad, wrong, but simple.
  • by SirSlud (67381) on Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:49AM (#2179860) Homepage
    Your news comes from big media content providers (think Time Warner AOL). Big media content providers want Dmitry nailed to a wall. You know that story a few days ago on /. about silicon valley using immigrant workers to keep salaries low? The story was actually circulated for publication 2 years ago, but no big paper would pick it up for fear of damaging themselves (they probably did it), and damaging the best story they had in years (the .com boom). News gets censored by media outlets ALL THE TIME. What's frightening is that people still think that news providers only have a slight 'political bias'. Untrue. They practice outright public awareness management. It's sad how controlled everyone's level of awareness is. Visit www.projectcensored.org to see what I'm talking about.

    At any rate, to answer your original question, anyone in the software biz right now (save for Adobe), and publishing industry want him in jail. The types they want to know about his arrest (he's an example to be made of) will know it from reading the trade sites (like /., cnet), while the rest of the world won't know, so won't care.
  • by bwt (68845) on Tuesday July 31 2001, @10:21AM (#2179861) Homepage
    Perhaps the best way to explain the DMCA to people who are unfamiliar with it is by comparison to historical abuses that are firmly accepted as wrong:

    In 1377, John Wycliffe was brought before the Roman Catholic Church because he had the audacity to declare that the common man had the right to read the bible, which he had translated from the Church's sanctioned latin into English. The position of the Church on common vernacular translation was known from the time of the Spanish inquisition. Spanish bible translators were often beaten, tortured, and burned alive. Spanish clergyman Alfonso de Castro gave the opinion of Church in these words: "the translation of the scriptures into the vernacular tongues, with the reading of them by the vulgar, is the true fountain of all heresies." Wycliffe was lucky to merely be arrested and excommunicated. The church did eventually dig him up and burn his bones, however.

    In 2001, cryptography and computer code have replaced latin, while eBooks take the role of the Bible. The "Copyright Industry" and the government agencies like the FBI that march to their drum have replaced the pre-reform Catholic Church as the organization that uses secret languages to control the thoughts of their "audience". After John Wycliffe asserted the right of the people to read, this principle became a central tenent of all church reformers and was strong in the protestant groups that eventually formed the United States of America.

    Today, as then, the right of the people to access the thoughts contained in the media they obtain legally, without regard to "technological protection measures", such as latin, object code, cryptography or obfuscation, is inherent in the First Amendment and the fundamental human rights which transcend government.

    Conversely, the supposed right to control access to copyrighted works against circumvention, asserted by the DMCA is a false right, and it must be facially rejected because it conflicts inescapably with the right to read. This "right" is completely distinct from the one it was supposedly created to protect, which is the right of authors to authorize the first sale of their works.

    Citations:
    http://www.whidbey.net/~dcloud/articles/johnwycl if fe.htm
    http://www.whidbey.net/~dcloud/articles/spanishb ib le.htm
  • Foreign Media Attention by dethlejd (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:17AM
  • Re:You're surprised? by dethlejd (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:26AM
  • A fundamental issue... by dethlejd (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:55AM
  • by pcx (72024) on Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:40AM (#2179865)
    The major news outlets are all owned by the big media companies. CNN is time/warner, ABC is disney, yada yada yada. The big media companies all have their fingers in the news outlets in one way or another and they'll gladly sacrifice their news divisions freedom a little if they can force you to shell over an extra $20.00 to listen to what they're calling music these days.

    That's why most of the useful news I get these days comes from Slashdot and not CNN.

  • Re:Human Right are universal by ahodgson (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:35AM
  • Not everything is covered by the 1st amendment by livewirevoodoo (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:46AM
  • Copyright is not supposed to be perpetual... by niola (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:18AM
  • Re:Urrrmm by StarKruzr (Score:1) Wednesday August 01 2001, @09:28AM
  • JonKatz... by TheShadow (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:54AM
  • Re:GOOD! by geomon (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:51AM
  • Re:No Problem by geomon (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:19AM
  • Re:Scandalous?!? by geomon (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @10:29AM
  • Re:Scandalous?!? by geomon (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @10:32AM
  • Re:No Problem by geomon (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @10:37AM
  • Re:No Problem by geomon (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @10:49AM
  • Re:Scandalous?!? by geomon (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @10:53AM
  • Re:No Problem by geomon (Score:1) Wednesday August 01 2001, @08:13AM
  • Re:Scandalous?!? by geomon (Score:1) Wednesday August 01 2001, @08:15AM
  • No Problem (Score:3)

    by geomon (78680) on Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:41AM (#2179880) Homepage Journal
    Face it, this guy will rot in jail before the public has any idea that he even exists. Let's just say, for the sake of argument, that the public does find out that a 26-year-old Russian citizen is being held without bond in a US jail. American public opinion will not be swayed to express outrage because he isn't a US citizen held in a foreign jail.

    The State of Texas executed a foreign national without giving him right to meet with his embassy. This is a right guaranteed to foreign nationals by treaty. The fact that someone could be held without access to their national ambassadorial staff is pitiful enough. The fact that they can be held without due process guaranteed under the Constitution is scandalous.

    But the public just doesn't care....

    It is fucking depressing.

  • Re:Scandalous?!? (Score:5)

    by geomon (78680) on Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:12AM (#2179881) Homepage Journal
    Why should a non citizen of the U.S. be afforded the same rights as a citizen.

    1) He has the right to meet with representatives of the Russian Embassy. That has not happened. This is a right guaranteed by treaty.

    2) It doesn't matter whether he is a US citizen or not, he has a right to due process.

    Look at the hell the U.S. had to go through to get a convicted murderer(Ira Einhorn) extradited from France.

    Not exactly apples to apples comparison, is it?

    But the Einhorn case could have been sped up if it hadn't been for the idiots in Pennsylvania trying him in absentia. That was a screw up on their part, not France's.

    Do you see the difference?

    Why should the U.S. afford a foreign national the opportunity to escape?

    Why have bail at all then? Anyone could flee from the jurisdiction they are indicted in, can't they? Take his passport.

    Sorry, but the constitution just doesn't come into play in this instance.

    Why, just because you've said so?

    The Supreme Court has said otherwise. They still gave Cuban's the right to due process (it took forever, but they got their day in court) when Castro emptied his jails and sent the felons north. The Supreme Court just told the Immigration Service that they cannot hold foreign nationals without charging them - even when they have served their sentences.

    Sounds like due process to me (derived, my dear colleage, from the Constitution).

    Foreign nationals should behave themselves in any country they visit.

    That is a given, isn't it?

    Are you saying that we shouldn't assume he is innocent until proven guilty?

    Just because the the U.S. appears to be more liberal with accused criminals than many other countries does not mean that the same liberal treatment can or should be extended to a foreign national.

    Right; let's just jettison the Constitution when it becomes a problem.

    I hope you're not running for an elected office.

    Non citizens should be made fully aware that they neither deserve nor get the same priviledges as a citizen.

    And on that point, as with so many others in this thread, you are just dead wrong.

  • Be clear about terms by MemeRot (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:04AM
  • Coca extract? by MemeRot (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:08AM
  • What about the spraying? by MemeRot (Score:1) Thursday August 02 2001, @07:12AM
  • Re:Protection for reporters not even certain... by MrKevvy (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:41AM
  • Re:Return of the Blue Ribbon Campaign? by Trekologer (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:27AM
  • Earth to windbag by Ater (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:53AM
  • You moron. by Havokmon (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:51AM
  • umm generic? by Havokmon (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:55AM
  • Okay, so here's an idea... by JoeShmoe (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:58AM
  • Re:Why haven't any reporters... by sustik (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @11:06AM
  • Re:What should people do? by wannabe (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:44AM
  • Re:What should people do? by wannabe (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @11:23AM
  • Re:What should people do? by wannabe (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @11:40AM
  • It's an issue about positive rights, once again by santeri (Score:1) Wednesday August 01 2001, @03:23AM
  • Re:[OT]Re:And in other news by naasking (Score:1) Wednesday August 01 2001, @03:55AM
  • Re:Bizarro Earth by naasking (Score:1) Wednesday August 01 2001, @03:59AM
  • Re:What should people do? by naasking (Score:1) Wednesday August 01 2001, @04:17AM
  • Re:Atlas Shrugged..... by naasking (Score:1) Wednesday August 01 2001, @04:27AM
  • Re:[OT]Re:And in other news by naasking (Score:1) Thursday August 02 2001, @03:23PM
  • Re:Sometimes it makes me sad by Zaphod B (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:56AM
  • I'M BLIND! (Score:3)

    by Zaphod B (94313) on Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:50AM (#2179902) Journal

    Are you sure he's been in jail for two weeks? I'm a little confused on that point.

    To paraphrase Scott Adams, you've had a BLINDING FLASH OF THE OBVIOUS!

    I don't know how to tell you this... but maybe if I shout way up into your ivory tower...the popular media aren't going to go running to Vegas and San Jose because this isn't the kind of news story that Joe AOL cares about.

    Now quit ranting, strap your soapbox to your back, and go do something about it instead of ranting impotently. You're preaching to the choir here.


    Zaphod B
  • Re:Jon has learned by numberVI (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:59PM
  • Re:I Agree, Here's What I'm Doing About It - Help by cybrpnk (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:06AM
  • by cybrpnk (94636) on Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:57AM (#2179905)

    I agree media coverage of the Sklyarov arrest has been a (non-existant) travesty. I have an idea, bear with me for a paragraph here. I noticed over the past few days that a USA Today reporter named Dennis Cauchon has written two stories on First Amendment arrests (although they were buried on the inside pages) here [usatoday.com] and here [usatoday.com]. To quote his story, "At the Justice Department's request, a federal judge jailed freelance writer Vanessa Leggett on July 20 on contempt of court charges after she refused to turn over notes, tape recordings and other material she collected while researching a book on the slaying of Doris Angleton in 1997. Angleton was the wife of Robert Angleton, a millionaire ex-bookie who was acquitted in 1998 of hiring his brother to commit the murder."

    Seems to me 'ole Dennis might be interested in the current party going on in Dimitri's Las Vegas cell, if only he knew about it. And USA Today might print what 'ole Dennis dug up on the story. So I'm gonna email 'ole Dennis at dcauchon@usatoday.com and give him an earful of URLs. Why don't ya'll email 'ole Dennis, too, and show him what the Slashdot Effect is all about?

  • Re:Wake UP! by Pedrito (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:37AM
  • Re:What should people do? by Pedrito (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @10:05AM
  • Re:The major news outlets are owned by big media by Pedrito (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @02:01PM
  • Re:Wake UP! (Score:3)

    by Pedrito (94783) on Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:07AM (#2179909) Homepage
    actually it's very rare that someone gets fucked in the ass in prison. Well except for the gay dudes who like it and do it by choice. Most prisoners are very homophobic and would never do it. Most likely Dmitri is playing cards, lifting weights, or watching cable tv right now...

    Really? Do you have experience in this area? I do. My company does a lot of work with prisons, and I guarantee that this does actually happen a great deal. I also have a family member who has a pretty checkered past and has done quite a few years in prison, and though he won't speak about it directly, he made it pretty clear that that stuff still happens. So, I'd like to see your evidence to support your case.

    I have evidence. Check here [spr.org] and here [fsu.edu] if you want a lot of references. Or, try this on Google [google.com].

    Then tell me that this is a thing of the past.

  • by Pedrito (94783) on Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:28AM (#2179910) Homepage
    The major news outlets are all owned by the big media companies. CNN is time/warner, ABC is disney, yada yada yada. The big media companies all have their fingers in the news outlets in one way or another and they'll gladly sacrifice their news divisions freedom a little if they can force you to shell over an extra $20.00 to listen to what they're calling music these days.

    That's why most of the useful news I get these days comes from Slashdot and not CNN.


    Not my experience at all. My father is an editor for a major newpaper owned by a major media company. Does that mean they avoid stories that put their parent companies in a bad light? Nope. Check out CNN's web site. I've seen plenty of negative coverage of AOL/Time-Warner. They always have the disclaimer at the bottom saying that CNN's parent company is AOL/Time-Warner, but they are happy to report anything negative about it.

    Are they objective? No, nobody is objective. Computers are objective. Humans, by definition, are subjective, regardless of what some may say. Still reporters go to where the news is. They're salesmen/saleswomen. They report on what gets read. Remember, it's still a business, and if it's not getting them readership, then it's not worth printing. It has nothing to do with the ties of the parent company.

    What does the average American know or care about the DMCA. Pracically none. We are in the minority. A very, very small minority. Unfortunately, people these days are more concerned with who the President is boffing, or who Condit is having an affair with, or misinterpreting the results of studies on children and the media. These are things that sell. Some Russian gets thrown in jail for breaking an American law? Not really big news. There's still a lot of cold-war anger. Russians are still seen as the "bad guys". One of them gets thrown in jail? Who cares? I do, you do, but honestly, are we part of the majority? Nope. That's why we come to Slashdot. When Slashdot becomes the voice of the majority (Warning: About 1 million years of evolution of the human species required), then maybe some of this will change.

  • by Pedrito (94783) on Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:58AM (#2179911) Homepage
    Why don't people here do what people have been doing for years. Something that, in the information age, is easier than ever. Write your representatives. Your congressman, your senators. They all have web sites and e-mail. E-mail them and tell them what you think about the arrest. Tell them what you think of the DMCA. That's how you influence the laws they make.

    Despite what many people think, your representatives aren't just there to serve the interests of lobbyists, though they make a lot of progress because they're persistant. They WANT to get re-elected, and you're the ones that elect them. They know that, and if enough people complain, they're going to do what you want because if enough of us complain, they're going to know their job is in jeapordy.

    Remember, we live in a Republic (not a Democracy as everyone is fond of saying, read about the difference). You representatives are elected by YOU. That means that YOU can tell them they suck and if they don't straighten up and fly right, you won't vote for them the next time they're up for re-election.

    Just my personal opinion, but I've written my representatives. I've e-mailed the president. They know my view. If enough people do the same, I guarantee you that this stuff, while not responded to personally, goes into a statistics sheet that tells them, at the end of the day, where their supporters stand.

    I don't say this unknowing. I have an uncle who was a U.S. senator up untila couple of years ago, and e-mail was used heavily to gauge the opinions of the people in his office, and I'm pretty sure that he was the rule, not the exception. They all have software that makes this stuff (e-mailed opinions) pretty easy to quantify without having to read each and every e-mail in detail.

  • Who cares about computer geeks? by DrCode (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:38AM
  • HOLY SHIT! by niekze (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:27AM
  • Ambivalent by crucini (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @04:46PM
  • Red Worm Linkage by Martin S. (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @10:05AM
  • Human Right are universal by Martin S. (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:05AM
  • Not quite... by curunir (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:47AM
  • Imprisonment for Civil Wrongs by awol (Score:1) Wednesday August 01 2001, @02:33AM
  • My quick explaination to my congresscritters by browser_war_pow (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:35AM
  • Arrested for writing and selling ??? by matek (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:34AM
  • Re:Bail by sudog (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @11:08AM
  • Re:Media on the other side -- was Re:FP by Paul Boutin (Score:1) Wednesday August 01 2001, @08:32PM
  • Re:These query results scare me by Paul Boutin (Score:1) Wednesday August 01 2001, @08:45PM
  • Re:Lawsuits? by steveha (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @10:15PM
  • Lawsuits? (Score:3)

    by 11thangel (103409) on Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:47AM (#2179925) Homepage
    Everyone knows this is only gonna end in court. My bet is the EFF sues it all the way up to the supreme court, where they do one of two things.

    1. Declare the DMCA unconstitutional
    2. Declare the 1st ammendment unconstitutional

    Any bets onto which one?
  • Mod UP. by crleaf (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:03AM
  • What we need are protests by Emperor Cezar (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:55AM
  • Re:CBS got it by Rand Race (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @10:10AM
  • The Marching Morons by Coward Anonymous (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:44AM
  • Re:Why haven't any reporters... by NearlyHeadless (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:58AM
  • Jon has learned (Score:4)

    by Mr. Sketch (111112) <mister DOT sketch AT gmail DOT com> on Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:57AM (#2179931)
    how to copy and paste. I knew I had read all of this before [nytimes.com]. Most of the paragraphs look like they were directly copy and pasted out of that new york times article.

    Or maybe they just ran the KatzBot on that NYT article. In which case I'm very disappointed in the KatzBot, I didn't see 'Corporate Republic' mentioned or even post-Columbine, maybe the KatzBot is broken.


    --BEGIN SIG BLOCK--
    I'd rather be trolling for goatse.cx [slashdot.org].
  • Here is why by garoush (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:32AM
  • Re:Scandalous?!? by Temkin (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:25AM
  • Re: the required evolution social, not individual by techwatcher (Score:1) Wednesday August 01 2001, @03:30AM
  • Re:So? by rprycem (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:36AM
  • 26 == kid? by 13013dobbs (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:43AM
  • Re:So? by 13013dobbs (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:54AM
  • Be careful what you wish for... you might get it. by faedle (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:28AM
  • Re:So? by gam3 (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:50AM
  • Re:No Problem by ecki (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:59AM
  • Re:Sometimes it makes me sad by Catbeller (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:52AM
  • Re:Scandalous?!? by jheywood (Score:1) Wednesday August 01 2001, @10:55AM
  • Re:Bail by jheywood (Score:1) Wednesday August 01 2001, @11:33AM
  • Re:Jon has learned by furiousgreencloud (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @11:48AM
  • Re:No Coverage Because No One Cares by SirGeek (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:48AM
  • Re:Well duh. by SirGeek (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:25AM
  • CNN by incast (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @02:10PM
  • msnbc (Score:5)

    by anonimato (122087) <sfmoe AT hotmail DOT com> on Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:42AM (#2179948)
    msnbc has a story on it here [msnbc.com]
  • Patterns by cicatrix1 (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:13AM
  • Yes, and? by SuiteSisterMary (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:34AM
  • Re:Yes, and? by SuiteSisterMary (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:05AM
  • Re:The major news outlets are owned by big media by Lord Omlette (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:01AM
  • Re:Lawsuits? by joel_archer (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:53AM
  • Why not in the news by Puck3D (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:05AM
  • Re:Bizarro Earth by oob (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:17AM
  • There IS reasonably unbaised reporting in America by fobbman (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:37AM
  • Future Consequences by BadBlood (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:50AM
  • Re:I agree by ZeroZen (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:18AM
  • Re:So? by ZeroZen (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:24AM
  • Re:This is nothing new by ZeroZen (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:30AM
  • Re:Scandalous?!? by ZeroZen (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:42AM
  • Perfect by supruzr (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:29AM
  • Proof of Concept by xeroh (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @12:23PM
  • Re:Earth to Katz... he broke the fuckin law by tclark (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:24AM
  • Re:Why haven't any reporters... by michaelsimms (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:36AM
  • Re:BBC by michaelsimms (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:43AM
  • Re:This is nothing new by gowen (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:43AM
  • by gowen (141411) <gwowen@gmail.com> on Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:39AM (#2179968) Homepage Journal
    When reporters were threatened with law enforcement pressure and jail during the Watergate and Pentagon Papers cases, whole forests were felled in the pre-digital age with stories, books, even movies about courageous reporters fighting for the First Amendment
    You've stumbled on a truth here. There is literally nothing that reporters like better than a story about reporters. Especially if the story makes them, or their profession, out to be noble, honest and all those other things they're largely not. Bet your life that if Dmitry had been a Russian journalist, the press outcry would've been so great he'd be home with his family by now.
  • extraterritoriality by aminorex (Score:1) Friday August 03 2001, @11:32AM
  • Think about it. (Score:5)

    by Sonicboom (141577) on Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:40AM (#2179970) Journal
    The MEDIA lobbied to get DMCA passed through congress... they know it's a shady law.

    After the whole DeCSS thing, the public opinion swayed against the DMCA...

    So it makes sense that the media isn't giving a nanosecond towards Dmitri.... they don't want any more bad press about their DMCA.

    Once people realize that the DMCA is a violation of our US constitution - people will fight to get rid of it! The media doesn't want to lose their golden sword!
  • The public doesn't care = the media doesn't either by starseeker (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:53AM
  • Re:Why haven't any reporters... by sowalsky (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:05AM
  • Re:This is nothing new by cygnus93 (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:50AM
  • Can't you see it? by Docrates (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:41AM
  • Re:Be clear about terms by fedos (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:18AM
  • What about non-US sources? by fedos (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:13AM
  • Re:The major news outlets are owned by big media by Mr. Barky (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:04AM
  • Well, do something about it then! by Quixote (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:07AM
  • What about quantum computers and algorithms? by macemoneta (Score:1) Wednesday August 01 2001, @03:49PM
  • Two weeks in jail is nothing.... by Jasonv (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:56AM
  • Re:The major news outlets are owned by big media by jck2000 (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:13AM
  • Hmm by ReidMaynard (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:56AM
  • The proper way to kill the DMCA by muonman (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @11:18AM
  • Oversimplifying DMCA? by annenk38 (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:56AM
  • Re:The major news outlets are owned by big media by PopeAlien (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:58AM
  • I have no gift for words by Red Weasel (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:21AM
  • Re:Attention adventurous reporters by orpheus2k (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @12:45PM
  • Marketplace (NPR) by gotih (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @05:02PM
  • Re:This is nothing new by TobyWong (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:55AM
  • Re:Key to your house, your car .... by smack_attack (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @10:03AM
  • HOW TO HELP Dmitri and the EFF by anon7864 (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @01:03PM
  • Re:Why haven't any reporters... by Bluesee (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:53AM
  • Re:Why haven't any reporters... by Bluesee (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @11:38AM
  • DCMA 'protects' the Press by HenryWirz (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:11AM
  • Re:So? by jaga~ (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:43AM
  • Re:This is nothing new by jaga~ (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:49AM
  • Re:So? by jaga~ (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:54AM
  • Re:So? by bribecka (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:21AM
  • Re:What should people do? by Reality Master 101 (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @01:11PM
  • The ACLU by Reality Master 101 (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:26AM
  • Re:What should people do? by Reality Master 101 (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @10:05AM
  • Re:No Problem by Sir_Real (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:21AM
  • Re:Oversimplifying DMCA? by Prior Restraint (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:51AM
  • Re:This is nothing new by maetenloch (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:07AM
  • copyright doesnt have to be involved by Ratteau (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @11:33AM
  • Re:Lawsuits? by kacp (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:16AM
  • Re:And in other news by Chundra (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:08AM
  • Re:GOOD! by balls001 (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:15AM
  • Lets get this kid out of Jail. by flintIII (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @12:49PM
  • Re:Earth to JK: by guibaby (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:23AM
  • Re:This is nothing new by guibaby (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @09:58AM
  • Re:Mod UP. by fonebone (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @11:04AM
  • Where in Copyright Law is that written? by GemFire (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @12:07PM
  • What about (Score:4)

    by sulli (195030) on Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:43AM (#2180014) Journal
    yesterday's Times op-ed by Lessig? [nytimes.com] Pretty good, I thought. It was in Slashback too.

    KQED radio (San Francisco) had a bit on the Dmitry protests today also. Are stations in other markets covering this?

  • Well duh. by Vain (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:45AM
  • Re:Key to your house, your car .... by soulflakes (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:28AM
  • Umm by HackHackBoom (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:28AM
  • Re:STOP Bashing Jon Katz by MacGabhain (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:55AM
  • Re:Scandalous?!? by Vspirit (Score:1) Wednesday August 01 2001, @02:42PM
  • Re:You lame information hippies.... by Quila (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @11:01PM
  • Re:You lame information hippies.... by Quila (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @11:27PM
  • by maddogsparky (202296) on Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:46AM (#2180022)
    Editors worry about market share, to satisfy their bosses who worry about shareholder value, who don't really matter because the company execs have all the stock options and decision power.

    Since the big news agencies answer to the same corporate masters that produce (other) copyrighted material, why would it be in their best interest to overturn a law that guarantees them more profit at the expence of the common good?

    Let me say that again. Big news media is owned by big business - they don't want the DMCA overturned, so why should they report on how it is abusing the Constitution?

  • It's been reported here by sasha328 (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @03:34PM
  • forget the politicians... by Technodummy (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @08:27PM
  • Hey - See me in the CBS video by smagruder (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @05:08PM
  • CBS got it (Score:3)

    by smagruder (207953) <steve@stevemagruder.com> on Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:47AM (#2180026) Homepage
    The San Francisco CBS affiliate carried yesterday's Free Sklyarov protest in its 6:30 and 11:00 newscasts. Perhaps CBS is the US network to trust in these matters.

    Steve Magruder

  • by Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) on Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:45AM (#2180027)
    Think about it : with years of brain-washing from well thinking press people and government, most computer illiterate people form the following associations in their heads nowadays :

    computer savvy person == suspicious

    encryption expert == suspicious

    person who wrote a decryption program without governmental or corporate blessing == hacker

    hacker == evil

    hacker arrested by FBI == no smoke without fire, therefore the hacker must be guilty

    and for many in the US :

    russian == communist

    communist == evil

    russian hacker == evil evil

    russian hacker arrested by FBI == hooray FBI for saving the free world !!!

    Most likely, if Dmitri's case receives press coverage, it'll probably be something like "Evil russian hacker arrested for attacking good US corporation Adobe's interests", not "Poor bastard in jail for 2 weeks without bail hearing". So maybe it's just as well if the press doesn't talk about it (the word you're looking for by the way is "biased").

    Welcome to the politically corrected corporate America ...

  • Too complex for Joe Average... by sdo1 (Score:1) Tuesday July 31 2001, @06:58AM
  • Re:Think about it. by sdo1 (Score:2) Tuesday July 31 2001, @07:16AM
  • Defense of Mediocrity by Deskpoet (Score:1) Wednesday August 01 2001, @08:33AM
  • by Deskpoet (215561) on Tuesday July 31 2001, @10:12AM (#2180031) Homepage Journal
    Read practically any *political* book by Noam Chomsky and Edward Herman, and you'll soon come to the realization of the futility of your proposal (for a taste from _Manufacturing Consent_, go here [connix.com].) Only ideological material that fits within the agenda of the given elite will get full play in the media--which is, of course, NOT free, but wholly owned by increasingly fewer groups of people whose interests coincide less and less with those of "the People"; that is why, surprise, surprise, this case is muted, if not completely unknown, because it challenges the tenets of issues the DMCA camp wants kept quiet.

    Sadly, writing to your editor solves nothing more than venting your spleen *here* does--actually, probably far less, as at least SOME people beyond the Gatekeepers see your opinions here, whereas at the Times and Post the most likely recipient of your words is the Round File.

    No, if you want to support Dimitry, send him and his lawyers money. If you want to stop the DMCA--and other repressive measures taken by the Elite, be prepared to help those on the front lines with your wallet. In this unjust society, money is the only force that can buy Justice.