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Enigma-like Device Patent Granted - 67 Years Later
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on Mon Aug 07, 2000 03:31 PM
from the pretty-cool dept.
from the pretty-cool dept.
Thanks to Bruce Schneier [?] of Counterpane fame for sending in this tidbit. The US Patent Office has granted William Friedman a patent for an Engima-like device - the catch is that he filed in 1933. Still it's a cool vintage piece of crypto - and I also noticed that a gallery copy of Bruce's new book is on eBay. 'Course, you could wait just a few weeks and buy a new one, but hey - if you gotta have it now, you gotta have it.
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it's a Patent, Not a Trade Secret (Score:3)
Besides, who wants to use a code that has lost a war and then some?
So no conspiracy theories here.
The interesting bit is the 67 years delay. Maybe it's not Enigma they are worried about, it's how they cracked it that's holding it up.
Re:BZZT! (Score:3)
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Of course, the other side of NSA patents is... (Score:3)
Now company 'B' goes out and develops the device, and in the process winds up violating the patents held by companies 'C', 'D', and 'E'. These companies come to company 'B', screaming about patent infringement and lawsuits that will leave future generations in debt. What happens?
The NSA states that the patents issued are not valid in this case, because the NSA has prior art-- company 'B' is therefore using NSA technology, not civilian technology. When companies 'C', 'D', and 'E' ask for proof, the response is pretty standard: "Sorry, but that's classified information." Companies 'C', 'D', and 'E' are SOL.
Company 'B' makes a killing selling thousands of units to the NSA, and later markets a *very* similar product to the general public. Except this time, they're paying royalties to 'C', 'D', and 'E'.
Guess who never really has to license patented technologies?
Cryptographic references (Score:4)
Schneier, Bruce. Applied Cryptography, Second Edition.
Kissinger, Henry. Collected writings. If you want to know crypto, you also need to know the political climate which created crypto; and when it comes to Cold War history, nobody tells it like Kissinger.
The ICSA Guide to Cryptography. Very light, but it's good for a beginner's introduction.
Kahn, David. The Codebreakers.
Bamford, James. The Puzzle Palace.
Gaily, Jean-Loup. The Data Compression Handbook (? on the name; it's been a while).
Knudson, Jonathan. Java Cryptography.
Elliote, Rusty (?). Java I/O.
Halsall, Fred. Can't think of the name for the life of me, but it's a monstrously big book about network communications. Very good stuff, even if it only has one chapter on communications security.
Re:Why so late? (Score:5)
But the NSA didn't exist in 1933!!!! (Score:5)
My guess to the lateness of the patent is the NSA thought encryption should be controlled solely by them, and so they just wrapped the thing up in red tape and left it. Why wait 'til 2000 to let it be patented though? Why not 10-20 years ago when computers were clearly far superior in encryption methods?
Ummm... Question?
How could the NSA have suppressed a patent or, for that matter, be assigned a patent, on something that was filed a good 18 years before the NSA was founded?!?
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Some information and thoughts (Score:4)
Now for the more speculative reason. The academic/civilian cryptographic research community has never successfully developed a general method for cryptanlysing rotor machines; basically, the limits of what we know how to break is the Enigma with knowledge of the rotor wirings and the SIGABA/ECM systems with knowledge of their rotor wirings. True, there have been vague descriptions of the cryptanalysis of Purple, but the key steps (ie. reconstruction of wirings, and far more importantly, determination of the general structure of the machine without obtaining it) have never been declassified. Rotor machines were very commonplace until about the early sixties; moreover, their descendants, shift register based stream ciphers were probably in use to this day. It's pretty safe to say that there are entire categories of cryptanalytic and cipher design techniques that we are ignorant about.
The sci.crypt newsgroup has a long thread about the patent which can be read, among other places, at http://www.remarq.com/read/cryptsci/q_RGaGOxKZQUC
You know what happened (Score:3)
You just know that in 1961 some guy who was cleaning out his desk, due to retiring, saw this application which had slipped behind the drawer, and said, "Oh dear." He guiltily looked around, and then stuffed it back into the desk.
Then 20 years later a successor found it, and though, "Oh shit. Well, if anyone find out that we just sat on this patent for 48 years, we're going to look bad. I think I'll put this off." He kept putting it off, wishing it didn't exist, and the longer he waited, the worse it would look when the word finally got out.
His successor played the same procrastination game.
That person finally had a heart attack and died this year. The person who inherited his unfinished work was about to "accidently" lose it too, but NSA threatened to release his web browser history to the public, so he gave in and approved it.
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Why so late? (Score:3)
Patents, Patents, Patents (Score:4)
Even better... (Score:3)
[*] And then they will promptly sue all bicycle owners and bicycle manufacturers for infringement.
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BZZT! (Score:5)
Re:If only we had known about this earlier... (Score:4)
Why don't we give it a try? :-)
ROT-13 (Score:3)
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Those of you who don't know Bruce... (Score:4)
IIRC the book's examples are in C. A decent companion text is Java Cryptography [amazon.com] (O'Reilly), which while light on theory, is a fairly good tutorial in use of the java.security package's crytographic classes. Unfortunately the book is rather shallow (read the reviews on Amazon for elaboration) and also rather dated; do not expect to find coverage of JCE 1.2 [sun.com] (Java Cryptography Extension) or other recent (year < 1.0) releases.
I'd love to hear others' favorite cryptology-related books.
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Re:My new patent (Score:4)
313373 5cr1pt k1ddi3 -> Can someone help me with this install script?
g0t 2007 -> still working on this one. As best I can tell, it's gibberish.
m3 hax0r 0x900d -> Red Hat works! wow! and I have root access! this kicks ass!
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Re:Minor nit... (Score:3)
galley proof
n. Printing
A proof taken from composed type before page composition to allow for the detection and correction of errors.
Why is the government patenting *ANYTHING*?? (Score:3)
IANAL, but I thought patent law was there to encourage innovation. Commercial companies patent something that took you a long time to develop and then get a chance to recoup your investment.
The gov't patenting something seems like an abuse of the system. We don't really want the gov't to be in the business of licensing patents do we?
Arrgh! It's bad enough that the PTO has control over which brain-dead ideas get a 17-year window of protection, but giving "them" the ability to lock down ideas is just too scary.
Can you imagine what the world would be like if the U.S. Gov't had the one-click shopping patent instead of Amazon?!
More on Friedman's inventions (Score:4)
According to The Codebreakers by David Kahn, this must be one of several cryptographic-related inventions Friedman made. In 1956, Congress gave Friedman $100,000 in compensation for the profits lost because several of his inventions were classified. On page 391, Kahn says:
I presume that this is the first of the four patents held in the Patent Office, which implies that three more will appear over the next few years. This is one of the rotor machines, but I'm not sure which of them it is. I'm really curious about the inventions so secret that they never had a patent application for them.
Near as I can tell from a quick glance through the book, in 1933 Friedman would have been working for a cryptographic section of the U.S. Army Signal Corps, to which I suppose the NSA is today's successor.
My paranoid rant (Score:3)
I studied crypto at college last year and saw diagrams, algorithm analysis, and even photos of the Enigma machines. This information is not secret, or even hard to come by, and it hasn't been for a long time.
And yet this patent was only recently made public because of "classified" info.
This just illustrates that our own government intentionally restricts information and misleads us. FOIA my ass.
My mom is not a Karma whore!
My new patent (Score:4)
elite script kiddie -> 313373 5cr1pt k1ddi3
got milk? -> g0t 2007?
I'm a uber hacker -> m3 hax0r 0x900d
I'm currently working on the decryption algorithm, anyone wanna help?