>"# You are false data"

I haven't had that type of response from the car. At least, not yet :)

Thankfully, it isn't contaminated with "AI".

You're a lucky man in a privileged country.

>"Just had a quick peek. Are those capacitive "buttons" below the screen?"

Yes. Just the HVAC ones. I would prefer non-capacitive ones. However, they are still non-touchscreen, permanently-labeled, backlit, "physical" controls. They never move, disappear, or change function. They also have hepatic feedback.

When I went to Vegas a few months ago I managed to walk across a dozen casino floors without spending a dime. The only thing remotely appealing was the Sigma Derby machine at the D, mainly because it's the only one left in the world, and it's an amazing piece of engineering.

You know who else could? The American Physical Society. They held their annual conference in Las Vegas in 1986. They (and the 56,000 physicists they represent) are barred from returning.

4000 physicists descended on the MGM Grand (now Bally's - they moved to their present location) and held their conferences. But, being physicists, they didn't gamble, and as a result got barred from returning because of it.

And this was Vegas in the 80s which was more about gaming then than now where things have gotten far more family friendly. The whole point of having world famous conventions was to attract people to gaming in the casinos. Since the APS didn't gamble, they got banned from returning to Vegas.

So yes, there are people smart enough to realize it was a trap and not play the game and when a bunch of people did it, they all got banned.

Though these days, they probably will be welcomed back. Modern Vegas has a much greater diversity in entertainment options as they were trying to be more family friendly and get rid of their gangster past image.

I was wondering the same thing. Probably a hell of a lot more expensive and complicated. But I bet that is the direction this is going.

Suppressing the immune system "forever" is a very bad thing, probably as bad as diabetes.

>"What I find annoying is the inability to adjust the navigation while driving."

Mine I can control the NAV with voice commands, native. Even without using Android Auto or CarPlay. Can set destination, options, cancel, etc. In addition to touchscreen.

>"it's that the passenger is also locked out."

Mine isn't. So it depends on what vehicle you pick. Part of my car shopping involved a LOT of such examination/testing.

>"and have physical controls for the HVAC, radio"

Mine has that.

>"Then that gets to complaints on a LED screen than physical gauges. I'm fine with the screen so long as they simulate moving needles and such like on a physical gauge as it requires less "mental bandwidth" than a number."

Mine also has simulated analog gauges for speedometer, energy output, charge level, etc options.

>" Put a number there too so I can get an accurate read if I need it."

Has that too. And a HUD.

Nissan Ariya. It has its share of oddities, but is a real winner for displays, buttons/controls, options, layout. Plus fast, long-range, super quiet, very comfortable, spacious, actually attractive, high safety ratings, tons of convenience stuff, and affordable.

>"I recently test drove a Mach-E, and I mostly liked it. It was the first electric car I've tried out that felt like a regular car, and it wasn't too expensive."

Look at the Nissan Aryia. Seems to be a well-kept secret. It has an even better interior, and far more physical controls. Plus a better dash AND HUD. And the driver's dash can be set to display a more traditional analog speedometer and motor output meter (something very rare nowadays).

>"I want to get in my car and drive - not geek out with computers."

Well, they all have a hell of a lot of options and computer stuff, for sure.

Most cars already have/do this, and never have removed them. It is only the edge-case brands/models (Tesla being one of them) which dove into this "only touchscreen, few physical controls, and no dashboard" crap.

>"Only support brands that offer a no touchscreen option!!"

Absolutely not. There is *nothing* wrong with a touchscreen when implemented correctly. It makes programming and setup tremendously easier.

The problem is when the driver's dashboard and controls are removed and REPLACED with ONLY touchscreen controls in the center console (if it even is a console, more like a huge TV on a stick). Thankfully, there are many brands, Infiniti/Nissan being one of them, that have never abandoned either.

>"But I prefer to blame the idiots who could have said "no buttons no dice" but didn't. "

I *did* say that. And that is why my new car (2025 Ariya) continues to have all major functions with physical controls, plus a driver's dashboard, just like all the various models before it. It was a major requirement for my purchasing decision. Not all companies are playing the eliminate all controls.

>"it has physical controls for most everything (wipers, lights, music, display, brightness, HVAC, etc)"

Reply to self. Just to stress the amount of physical controls by expanding it in more detail:

Dash brightness, headlights, music controls, HVAC controls, mirror adjustments, mirror folding, locks, windows, moon roof, roof shade, cabin map lights, brake hold, trunk open, drive mode, shifter, all the seat adjustments, SOS call, center arm rest adjustment, steering wheel position, garage door, rear video mirror, cruise control, hazard lights, HUD on/off, park, fog lights, wipers (expanding to mode front and back, manual wipe, clean front and back, delay, auto), auto highbeam, headlight aiming, immediate charge, steering assist, defoggers, voice access (also can use a trigger word), cameras view, vent positions, glove box releases, audio power, hood release, and, of course, the master "Start" button.

These are ALL physical. Some also are available on center touch screen.

That only works if the stock keeps going up. Musk is so incredibly powerful and wealthy now he can get away with crashing the stock as long as he doesn't screw over his fellow 0.1%ers.

but if you try that as a regular CEO you still get your ass handed to you when the stock eventually comes back to Earth.

>"Nissan's latest concepts feature prominent physical buttons for common functions..."

Nissan never abandoned physical buttons for common functions. So why talk about "latest concepts". I just bought a new Ariya, it has physical controls for most everything (wipers, lights, music, display, brightness, HVAC, etc). PLUS a real dashboard in FRONT of the driver (meaning it is not just a huge "TV on a stick" in the middle), in addition to the integrated center console. On top of that it has a HUD. Plus many common functions even have voice activation. Those are four of the many reasons I bought it.

So please get your information correct before implying past or current models don't have physical controls. Nissan has, does, and will presumably continue to do this correctly.

Because of course it did. You don't automate dirt cheap labor first you go after the more expensive stuff first.

Ignoring the fact that our unemployment statistics are just flat out lies and that industries will always tell you that they have quote unquote negative unemployment in order to bring in more h1bs the fact of the matter is the automation initially was targeted towards factory workers because they were unionized and so they could demand better wages. Factory workers were prone to unionization because you would have a shitload of the same kind of worker all in one place so it was easy to organize them.

Even Trump's own commerce Secretary admitted on Fox news that even if the factories ever came back to America the jobs wouldn't because they would be automated.

So what we have is a ton of Mcjobs replacing what used to be good paying factory work. And now even those Mcjobs are at risk because they require a viable service sector economy and you can't have that if you gut what's left of the middle class. You need somebody to be able to buy services in order for there to be a service economy

This is why we can't all be plumbers. Because as the white collar workers get replaced by machines they're going to stop hiring plumbers because they can't afford too or because they don't actually own houses they rent.

Our economy requires everything to be firing on all cylinders and a system where money circulates. We're breaking down that circulation and we've got a knock in the engine.

No excuse?

You have to face reality. Your sense of propriety is not the sense of others, for better and worse.

You can yell at the sky for those rain drops to go back to the clouds of their origin, but it's not going to happen.

Face that. It is real. That's why this breakthrough is so important. The closer we get to statistical protection, the more the curve flattens. The fact that the curve flattens flies in the face of your sense of morality or of mine. It really flattens it. That's the entire point.

Neither you or I can change the herd's way of behavior. But we can lead the herd to better outcomes.