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Comment Not just defensive (Score 5, Interesting) 47

My wife works in a library. Some of these people become not just defensive, but outright hostile. Part of the problem is socioeconomic and education based. A lot (not all but a lot) of people using libraries on a daily basis don't have much formal education and have little experience with computers. Much of my wife's work is just helping people do very basic tasks, like showing someone how to open a Word document, or how to download or upload a file for a job application. So for probably some of these patrons, ChatGPT must seem like magic. The interface is simply typing what they want, and even highly misspelled or garbled requests will generate something like a coherent response from it, so they don't even need to know what any icon means. And if one is dealing with people who often literally don't understand the difference between a file stored on a computer and a file on the cloud (to use one common example) then even explaining the idea of an AI hallucination is going to be an uphill battle.

Comment Re:Enforcement? (Score 3, Informative) 22

As is the case for almost all international treaties, enforcement mechanisms are limited. Egregious violators will get pressure from other countries. Many countries will depend on citizens to enforce it. For example, in some countries regular citicizens can file lawsuits when their country is not fulfilling treaty obligations. But generally, when countries sign on to international treaties, most involved countries also pass internal legislation to comply with treaty aspects. This is the way for almost all international treaties, and it largely works. People have an idea that international law doesn't work but the vast majority works fine, and we often just notice the serious failures and breakdowns, not all the stuff that is quietly working on a day-to-day basis.

Comment Re: My mask your mask (Score 4, Insightful) 159

Much of what you wrote is wrong or misleading or more of a rant than anything with content. You didn't respond at all to the point that the environmental damage here is tiny. But I do want to address two specific bits which are the most contentful parts:

The masks were stupid. Everyone lifted them up to do business in public, everyone was breathing out their car windows in traffic while people drive in long straight lines breathing each others air from non-airtight vehicles.

This is confused at multiple levels, but does almost touch on a valid point. It is true that a lot of people were awful maskers, and lifted up their masks all the time, or had terrible seals, making their masks not function. And then you had people doing things like wearing masks in indoor restaurants and then taking them off when they sat down to eat as if their dining table was somehow protected. And if you go back to Slashdot, you'll see me explicitly saying that all of this was awful behavior. People failing to mask properly isn't a problem with masks though any more than people dying in car accidents due to not wearing their seatbelts is a sign that seatbelts don't work. And the point about car windows out non-airtight cars misses something we figured out pretty early in the pandemic, namely that outdoor environments in general were pretty safe.

People became immune to covid without needing a hundred vaccines. No masks now and everyone is okay arent they.

People didn't need a hundred vaccines, but we're still getting new covid variants, and vaccines are still helping prevent people from getting seriously sick. Vaccines worked, and they drastically saved lives. Here is a really good essay about that https://www.natesilver.net/p/the-2-key-facts-about-us-covid-policy which shows how prior to the vaccines, death rates in the US among Democrats and Republicans looked nearly identical and only after vaccines showed up they started diverging. There's one easy explanation for that. And it is worth noting that the author there Nate Silver, generally takes the position (and argues explicitly in that piece) that mask mandates were not substantially effective, even as vaccines worked really well. It may be worth realizing that while you somehow see vaccines and masks as interconnected issues, they aren't, and not everyone falls into the vaccines-bad-masks-bad and vaccines-good-masks-good categories. To use two fun anecdotes: One of the most strict maskers I know was a couple who were highly anti-vax and was also taking HCQ as a preventative. One of the most vocally pro-vax people I know is a Rabbi who despised not getting to see his congregant's faces and was pushing for the vaccines so people would feel comfortable unmasking. Maybe don't treat all matters as some giant soccer game with two large sizes?

Comment Re:My mask your mask (Score 4, Informative) 159

Completely true and also true that this is a problem. But note that these are tiny levels of pollution which if not for the controversial nature of masks would likely be getting little attention. For example, they estimate that this lead to 214kg of bisphenol B into the environment as their upper bound. But in 2010 around 400,000 kg of bisphenol A were released into the environment with slightly smaller numbers for bisphenol B https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0882596309001407. Since 2010, there's been a concerted effort to reduce bisphenol release, but even if that's been by an order of magnitude, this is a a less than 0.1% increase in worldwide production. Similar remarks apply to the microplastic production where the ratio is even more extreme.

Comment Re:through mistakes and exploration (Score 1) 60

No, the concern is that as these systems get better, they will be substitutes for the sort of exploration and connection making that a mathematician needs to learn as a fundamental foundation for doing research. Using an LLM to suggest approaches and connections can be useful, but it doesn't give the same underlying basic skill set to do deeply original work.

Comment Emphasis is interesting (Score 5, Informative) 60

The emphasis here is interesting. The users were impressed by it, and comparing it to a junior researcher is wildly better than earlier systems. And the warning at the end is precisely relevant because the systems are starting to have some potential usefulness in research. I'm a mathematician and this sort of very mixed experience with ChatGPT in the GPT5 form is close to my own experience. Relevant recent anecdote:

Relevant math background: the Gaussian integers are the complex numbers of the form a+bi where a and b are good, old-fashioned integers. For example, 2+3i or -1 +2i are Gaussian integers. Any integer n is a Gaussian integer since you can write it as n+0i. But say or 3- 0.5 i would not be Gaussian integers. Also notation: We write x|y to mean y is a multiple of x. We can use this notation in our regular integers (so for example 2|8 but it is not true that 3|8 ) or in the Gaussian integers where we are then allowed to multiple by another Gaussian integer. For example (2+i)| (2+i)(3-i). A good exercise if you have not seen the Gaussian integers before: Convince yourself that 1+i | 1+3i.

It also turns out that the Gaussian integers have an analog of unique prime factorization just as that in the usual integers. The Gaussian integers also have a notion of size called the norm. For a given Gaussian integer a+bi, the norm is a^2 +b^2 .

Recently I had to prove a specific Lemma where I needed to find all Gaussian integers and where both are Gaussian primes, and b|a^2 + a +1 and a|b+1. I had as a template a very similar Lemma in the integers which was a Lemma which said exactly which integers and b such that b|a^2 + a +1 and a|b+1. I worked out the proof, essentially modifying the version in the integers. Then, I did something I've often been doing after I've completed a small Lemma, namely giving the task to ChatGPT or another system and seen how they've done. For prior iterations (GPT3, ChatGPT , GPT4, 4o) this has almost universally been a disaster. But this time I gave the task to GPT5, and gave it the integer version to start with. It tried to do the same basic task and produced a result pretty close to mine, but it had multiple small errors in the process, to the point where I'm unsure if using it would have sped things up. But at the same time, the errors were genuinely small. For example, in proving in one subcase the system claimed that a specific number's norm needed to be at most 9, when it needed to be at most 10. These are not the sort of large jumps in reasoning that one saw with GPT4 or 4o. It might have been the case that if I had given this to GPT5 before proving it myself and then had corrected its errors I would have saved time. I generally doubt this is the case, but the fact that it is close to the point where that's now plausible is striking.

Comment Re:"Europe" who? (Score 2) 41

The internet bubble burst in the late 1990s. We still have an internet and the internet is if anything more useful and ubiquitous than most people predicted in the late 1990s. There likely is an AI bubble, but if/when it bursts we'll likely see the same thing. A technology can have a lot of potential and staying power and also be part of a bubble.

Comment Blame Trump and his administration (Score 5, Informative) 85

Investment right now is hard since Trump is making everything unstable. People do not want to invest when there's instability. Trump's administration has also taken an extremely anti-EV and anti-solar/anti-wind position, which means for the next few years, all the obvious use cases for these systems will be at best precarious.

Comment Re:Access (Score 1) 102

That shrinkage has been almost exclusively in the United States, while the standard of living around the world has gone up with poverty rates going down almost everywhere and with drastic improvements by other metrics also. See e.g. https://ourworldindata.org/poverty . And even in the US there's evidence that the rise in inequality slowed down and even reversed in the last few years. See discussion at https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/inequality-might-be-going-down-now. So if there's a problem, it is US policy specific, not about computers or any other tech, and even in the US the trend isn't clear at this point.

Comment Re:This isn't really a big problem. (Score 1) 125

The vast majority of innovations don't happen from the Einsteins or Terry Taos but from regular slightly bright people who are working hard. So yes, in that sense, population matters. It is true that there are a lot of people spending time on junk like making Facebook more addictive, but there's no obvious move to reduce that at all.

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