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Comment Re:Or, counterpoint, it stole somebody else's work (Score 5, Informative) 41

Bubeck, the mathematician at OpenAI has responded to these allegations https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7503148080888893440/

1) The screenshot is my reaching out to Levent to coordinate our releases. I hope it’s clear from the message that we came in with the best possible intentions.

2) I never ever asked for Levent to be removed from authorship of his own work (as indicated by my text). I was surprised to learn during the call with Tristan that they had only solved Euler and not Navier-Stokes; after learning this we brainstormed possible paths forward. One option we discussed was that Tristan could be the lead author on a rewrite of OpenAI’s Navier-Stokes proof. It is in that context that I said “it would be simpler if Levent was not an Anthropic employee” because I felt it would be inappropriate for an Anthropic employee to author OpenAI’s work. Importantly it was admitted that internal Anthropic models had been used in their proof of Euler blowup; I therefore felt I could not consider Levent to be an independent academic. Another option I wanted to propose (but got cut short) is to offer access to our internal model so that they could try to finish their proof and bridge the gap between Euler and NS. Again I did not know how to navigate giving access to internal OpenAI IP to an Anthropic employee.

3) To reiterate it plainly: as my text clearly indicates, and as I said during our call, OpenAI's intention was to do everything possible to celebrate their mathematical achievements and the heroic efforts that they made on Euler. In the call I was immediately met with a litany of slander, including direct threats that if we were to announce Navier-Stokes he would immediately go to the press with a barrage of unfounded accusations. I refuted all these accusations but he replied “there is nothing you can do, I simply do not trust you”. I was confused why one would turn an incredible source for celebration (of their achievements!) into such bickering, which is when I said that I did not understand why one would risk their career [over unfounded accusations]. Genuinely, at that moment, I was trying to care for him and do a last ditch attempt to get a chance to give them all the credits that they deserve. I deeply apologize for this extremely poor choice of words, it is the opposite of what I was trying to convey. (I should say that I retracted them on the spot by the way.)

4) Overall, on a personal level, it was incredibly difficult to have these conversations. Levent refused to attend any of the meetings despite my repeated asking. As Sholto Douglas said, there will need to be coordination between Anthropic and OpenAI in the future; I felt I was doing a proxy negotiation with Anthropic while the Anthropic employee refused to directly participate.

I don't know whose version of events is accurate here, but some of the details due support Bubeck's version. I suspect that a breakdown of communication occurred where both then misinterpreted what the other saying in a more hostile way than it was intended until the conversation then became genuinely hostile. In terms of the math, although I'm a mathematician, differential equations is pretty far from my expertise, so I cannot deeply evaluate how close the methods were. However, it is the case that the both were building on the methods of Cordoba-Martinez-Zoroa. In this context, my being far from this sort of work is relevant, because this was a well known enough approach that even though I'm in a pretty different subfield, I had heard of CMZ's work as an approach and that this was considered a promising approach to Navier-Stokes. Given that, my inclination is that the case that any theft occurred here is very weak.

Comment Re:Shocked it was ever that high (Score 1) 60

*Raises hand*. As far as I can tell, in practice, the biggest objection people have is not really about privacy but is people like my father-in-law who is really unhappy about getting tickets in the mail for speeding. That's why people want to get rid of the cameras rather that put in reasonable restrictions about their use cases. And the result is that a tech that would actually save a lot of lives is instead getting removed for what is nominally a privacy concern.

Comment Re:LOL (Score 2) 43

In this case, Anthropic risked a large fraction, if not even a majority of their potential income to do the right thing. That doesn't seem like pretend at all. And yes, Google started out better and then turned into a company that very much is not so. But if there's no reward or incentive for good behavior, and everyone just takes for granted that every "good" company is going to become terrible, then that makes companies have even more incentive to go and become terrible. So the best rest response is treating the good ones like they are doing good things as long as they keep doing so, and push back when they start moving away from that.

Comment Read all the details (Score 2, Informative) 56

Unfortunately, there's a lot of people (including some here on Slashdot) who have tried to argue that these instances of AIs breaching their containment have been deliberate hype by the AI companies. The level of detail in this instance and the fact that METR and others have looked at this should make it clear that's not what is going on. Taken together with the fact that another incident occurred with Kimi-3, an open-weight model, which also did something similar but not as extreme when it was tested by a security group https://www.wired.com/story/moonshot-kimi-k3-ai-model-escape-sandbox/ which had no incentive to exaggerate, it should be clear that this is a real problem with these models. At this point, all models should be tested in air-gapped systems. Unfortunately,, it doesn't look like OpenAI or Anthropic or anyone else is taking that sort of step. I suspect we're going to keep having similar problems until an AI model goes seriously off the rails in a way which causes massive amounts of damage and/or kills someone. I'm really hoping we don't need a wake-up call with a model somehow crashing an airplane or something of a similar nature in order to accomplish some goal.

Comment Re:Just like in Texas (Score 1) 179

There are a lot of legitimate criticisms here, but the wastewater thing is not one of them. SpaceX in the article points out that the water used is literally drinking water before it used for the deluge system, and they are correct there. While it is technically waste water, and they should fill all the legal requirements, the dumping just isn't a serious issue. Musk is a racist ass, and SpaceX needs to do a better job with its environmental obligations. However, the wastewater issue is not a real problem.

Comment Re:Why only brains though? (Score 4, Interesting) 38

The paper is here https://pubs.acs.org/jprobs/article/25/8/4189/5164102/Molecular-Solution-to-the-Paradox-of-Ancient-Brain. From that paper, it looks like the presence of specific types of proteins (as well as the absence of others) plays a major role, as well as redox-active iron as well as structural elements about how brain tissue is arranged. From the paper:

Finally, recalcitrant peptides are depleted in cytoplasmic and mitochondrial domains and strongly enrichedby up to 16-foldin calcium-dependent phospholipid-binding C2 domains. C2 domains mediate Ca2+-regulated binding of proteins to anionic phospholipids on membrane surfaces, (58) and their enrichment indicates that peptide persistence is disproportionately associated with proteins stabilized at membranes, rather than within freely soluble intracellular compartments. Loss of ionic homeostasis and rising intracellular Ca2+ during post-mortem decay (6) would be expected to further promote sustained membrane association of such proteins. Membrane-adjacent microenvironments are structurally constrained, concentrating redox-active substrates and catalysts (such as lipids and metals) while restricting diffusion and oxygen availability relative to the cytosol. In this context, radical oxidation is less likely to proceed via chain propagation, which requires continuous access to molecular oxygen, (59) and more likely to locally terminate via cross-linking. Such cross-linking would be expected to reduce molecular mobility and solubility, sterically hinder enzymatic and hydrolytic attack, and promote the formation of insoluble aggregates resistant to degradation. (60)

A further factor likely reinforcing this taphonomic trajectory is the brain’s unusually large and heterogeneous reservoir of redox-active iron. (61) Nervous tissue contains high iron concentrations relative to most other soft tissues, distributed across multiple pools such as heme proteins, ferritin-bound stores, and iron-rich compartments associated with mitochondria, myelin, and oligodendrocytes. (62) In life, these pools are tightly regulated to support oxidative metabolism while limiting collateral damage. (63) After death, however, progressive membrane failure and loss of regulatory control are expected to alter iron speciation and availability, increasing the likelihood of local metal-catalyzed radical generation. Importantly, such chemistry need not produce uniform oxidative destruction: when redox reactions involving iron occur within membrane-adjacent or diffusion-limited microenvironments, they may favor the formation of short-lived aromatic radicals that terminate by covalent cross-linking rather than by chain-propagating oxidation (Table S22). The enrichment of peroxidaseswhich often involve heme iron or metal cofactors (64)among recalcitrant peptides is compatible with localized, metal-associated redox chemistry, in which iron-containing cofactors may contribute to peroxide-driven radical formation without sustaining chain-propagating oxidation.

The brain is particularly predisposed to follow this trajectory. In life, it is among the most oxidatively stressed organs: it consumes a disproportionate share of oxygen, is rich in redox-active metals, and relies heavily on antioxidant and repair systems to maintain protein integrity. (65) Additionally, the brain combines extreme membrane density, (66) an abundance of structurally stable, long-lived proteins that accumulate heterogeneous oxidative modifications during life, (67) and anatomical sequestration within the cranial vault. Together, these features establish a post-mortem environment characterized by pre-existing chemical and structural heterogeneity, limited molecular mobility, and restricted oxygen exchange: conditions that favor local, diffusion-limited radical reactions and termination by cross-linking rather than runaway, chain-propagating oxidation. Notably, the molecular features that define this post-mortem pathway closely parallel those that stabilize aggregation-prone protein assemblies in neurodegenerative disease: enrichment of -sheet and structurally ordered fragments, (68) redox-active residue modifications, (69) and oxidative cross-links (70) are hallmarks of pathological protein aggregation in vivo. While the biological contexts differ fundamentally, these parallels indicate that common chemical processes govern protein persistence across clinical and geological time scales.

Comment Re:I'm not convinced QCs will ever work (Score 1) 45

I know that 28 was wrong.

Great. Progress. Now here's the important thing: If you understood Shor's algorithm you would know that 28 couldn't possibly have been the number. So this should cause you to conclude that you are in general overconfident about how much you know or understand about how quantum computers would function. This doesn't mean you are necessarily wrong, but it should indicate that you are overconfident here or could you use a more detailed introduction or refresher on the topic. My preferred recommendation is Aaronson's "Quantum Computing Since Democritus." The book assumes no technical prereqs beyond basic calculus and a tiny amount of linear algebra.

However, you seem to be totally ignorant with regards to algorithmic complexity. That means you do not even have the very basics needed to be in this exchange.

If you think there's some specific indication that I'm in general ignorant about algorithmic complexity, please feel free to point it out. If there's a specific statement I've made that indicates that, by all means show it.

Comment Re: Is Scott Aaronson eating humble pie yet? (Score 1) 45

This is not really accurate. The way qubits work, they don't expand in that simple a way because you cannot just test all arrangements of 1s and 0s in superposition. You can only solve problems with a quantum computer where all the non-solution superpositions carefully cancel out. That's part why for example it is strongly suspected that quantum computers cannot efficiently solve NP-complete problems, or more formally that NP is not contained in BQP. This is also why Shor's algorithm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shor's_algorithm for using a quantum computer requires a number of qubits slightly more than the square of the number of digits a number to factor a number. If qubits corresponded directly in the exponential way you are describing, that would be linear in the number of ditis.

Comment A bit early in the process? (Score 1) 64

Normally during bubbles, things like this keep working fine until the bubble bursts because when the stocks and other assets keep going up in value it is hard to see if someone is making reasonable investments or not. That Situational Awareness fell apart even in the middle of this may mean they were overly risky even for ventures like this, or it may be evidence that we're in less of a bubble than many (including myself) think. One curious detail is that at least some people (such as many of the people who seem to be fans of Ed Zitron) see he collapse of SA as a sign that the bubble is in the process of bursting. The collapse of SA occurred about a month ago, so it is still recent enough to see if they are correct. But Zitron and his fans have been predicting an imminent collapse for years now, so I'm not sure I'd read too much into it.

Comment Re:What is the actual last step? (Score 1) 96

There are some complications. Sometimes SCOTUS will rule against a specific motion or part of a ruling, or refuse to hear something, even as another piece of an appeal can occur. One can also file in some circumstances a petition for the Supreme Court to reconsider its own ruling. But this is basically never successful. You also can in some circumstances ask an appeals court to change a prior ruling based on a recent Supreme Court ruling, and this has some success. The circumstances where you can do this sort of thing are complicated. Jean Carroll's lawsuit against Trump is an example of this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Jean_Carroll_v._Donald_J._Trump where Trump tried basically everything to try and prevent having to pay out even some ver low percentage strategies. Frankly, if someone other than Trump had done this, I suspect the court response would have been more negative.

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