Comment Re: Color me surprised (Score 1) 62
Comment Re:Oh? (Score 1) 108
Lots of people had different ideas of what web apps should be. The main thing was that everyone wanted more functionality through the browser and HTTP. They just didn't know how to go about it.
The turning point was 1995, with the introduction of web forms and server-side request processing and dynamic response. When that happened it stop being just a document browser. It became an interactive application (well, more interactive than just viewing). You could now receive content, interact with it, send content, process user requests, show updates. Before that you needed a custom application on the client, or a thin terminal client like telnet. Now you could do it in your document browser.
This was made worse by Brendan Eich, who invented JavaScript in the same year (1995) specifically to build onto and "improve" the initial web forms. The browser companies wanted their browsers to be "interactive" and needed a way to control that without shipping custom apps, so they kludged together this scripting language. Once other browser vendors saw what it could do, they immediately adopted it too, cuz $$$. They weren't thinking about the larger implications (literally making a client-side application platform). They were just trying to make money.
Over the years more things were introduced that kept pushing the interactive application aspect of the browser. More logic, interactivity, dynamism, features. Whatever could add more features - because it would result in more money for companies developing and using this technology. Nobody ever stopped to think this might not be a great design in the long run. And I don't think anyone anticipated the quagmire we'd get into, where all new network protocols would eventually have to be tunneled over HTTP, because networks just refused to pass any other traffic (because why would you use an application that wasn't a web app?).
Comment Re:They were using Open Source software, so ... (Score 1) 77
It's unlikely an issue of MS documents being brittle and more a case of MS documents being full of legacy trash. You build up a template today you can quite easily migrate it elsewhere. If on the other hand you have an template based on an old doc format which was converted to docm and then to a dotm complete with some 100 lines of poorly hobbled together VB Script, then you're going to have a bad day.
That said we've got that problem within Microsoft as well. There's a shit ton of legacy cruft that may or may not work depending on whether you open it on the desktop app or within teams or within a browser.
Comment Re:They were using Open Source software, so ... (Score 1) 77
if it does not do what you want take the damned source and add what is missing and everyone will benefit. If you do not have the expertise then pay the developers or someone to do it for you.
Yeah because software evolves that quickly and easily...
Actually these days with vibe coding it may, but then you end up with something which was vibe coded and YMMV.
Comment Re:It's funny (Score 1) 77
A presentation in Excel? That's incredible. "Computer skills" are somewhat of an unwritten requirement when hiring these days, maybe we need to make it more explicit after all?
You use the tools you know to get the job done. That's a real computer skill. Sidenote: Powerpoint is a better image drafting tool than word or Excel,
Comment Re:They were using Open Source software, so ... (Score 1) 77
Indeed, I think they were expecting a smooth transition.
Unfortunately a lot of hype has been put out about how easy it is to ditch Microsoft products like Office and Windows. The reality is very different. LTT released a video just yesterday about how easy switching from Windows to Linux is, and within about 10 seconds of it starting the jargon would have gone over most people's heads.
Comment Re:mod_php was considered the easiest approach (Score 2) 22
This appears to be an FPM exploit: https://github.com/KillaBoi/St...
But notice it has to make a huge amount of assumptions about the configuration of the server in order to work. So this kinda sorta underlines the thing you say, assuming the hacker cannot obtain the output of php_info() - it's not unheard of for PHP devs to include that somewhere so they can check what's going on. It makes script kiddie stuff a little less likely, though a hacker specifically targetting a specific installation will likely be able to break in.
I've read various comments about viable this exploit is, and even submitted a link to someone's commentary to Slashdot about how it maybe overblown (https://eliastaylor.com/noexploit/) - The infosec community seems genuinely split on it, and I'm not sure this proof of concept is really going to convince anyone right yet.
The reality is we should probably not have acted as if a nuke went off last week, while at the same time we should patch it on a "just in case" basis. The 4 thing was more serious, and remains more serious given the number of IoT devices that'll accept 4 forever. This, on the other hand, is a good reason to stay up to date.
Comment There was no clear harm for smoking either (Score 1) 62
Seriously it doesn't take five phds to figure out that having your body full of microplastics isn't a good thing. The only reason the research is preliminary is because they keep cutting funding to science research for exactly this reason.
It's not that we don't know it's bad to have your balls stuffed with microplastics. It's that we don't know exactly how bad. And it's in that little Gap that they're going to keep you for several decades maybe forever of our democracy collapses.
Comment Re:Unprepared pilot project (Score 1) 77
You have to just force people to use shit software for a while. Microsoft did the same thing. Anyone who remembers how bad word was compared to word perfect should remember being forced to use crap software for no good reason.
The problem is that again our economy is perpetually collapsing because we are fighting among ourselves to see who can make the second trillionaire, and because of that the slightest reduction in productivity can't be allowed. So you can't have people fighting with software hours every day when they could be shuffling money up to the top to see who's going to be that second trillionaire
Comment Re:Paragraph formatting, really? (Score 1) 77
My suspicion is that all of those comments relate to importing Word documents and templates into LibreOffice. Without LibreOffice full-on ditching their internal DOM and using Microsoft's, formatting changes are inevitable.
The question to me is why they see that as a reason to not replace Word. The obvious solution is import the fucking templates and fix them, a one off task.
Comment Re:Harm (Score 1) 62
While this is true, being the subject of an experiment to see what happens when you do that is not something most people would choose for themselves. It's not *irrational* to be concerned. Absence of evidence on a largely unexplored question like microplastic infiltration in human bodies is not the moral equivalent of absence of evidence in an extensively studied question like a vaccine-autism link.
Comment Re:Never will (Score 1) 77
Standards, maybe, but features? I'm unaware of any features missing from LibreOffice of note, and LibreOffice has a better UI and discoverability as it supports CUA standards, something Microsoft's Office suites haven't done since the mid-2000s.
Comment Re:It's funny (Score 2) 77
Collabra is a full office collaboration suite based on several open source projects including LibreOffice. LibreOffice and Collabra have had an... interesting relationship, despite the latter making probably the largest amount of contributions to it in recent decades.
It's not obscure, it's just you probably don't know the primary output of Collabra's work when you use it.
Comment Re:Harm (Score 1) 62
...and? Are you seriously saying we shouldn't address serious threats to health because there's other serious threats to health?