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Comment Re:Rethinking our approach (Score 1) 21

I'm not understanding why the traditional approach doesn't need throttling. Keep in mind a DOS attack is usually considered a smaller "sin" than a breach(es). If you allow too many retries, then the second sin is more likely. I see no third option*, it's either a DOS freeze or lots of retries.

If hackers find a design weakness in your company's preferred/required password-keeper, they can potentially hack them all. A company can allow multiple keeper brands, but then they either have to vet them all, or accept that some users will select a dodgy brand.

> I read your setup as a global throttle. If that's not what you meant...

* The best throttling and/or DOS defense strategy/algorithm is a more involve topic, but so far not a difference maker in what we are comparing.

Comment Rethinking our approach (Score 1) 21

The "requirements" for a secure passwords will keep trending up such that harassing users to write War and Peace to log in is a dead end.

The password server should be in a special box that throttles requests. It would have a very limited and primitive interface to the outside world; technicians would have to physically unlock it to service it. There would be a mirror server for a backup.

That way no hacker can run gajillion retries on a password without swiping the actual box.

Comment Re: scares me too much ill never do that (Score 1) 64

NewScum wants to bring them back, because forced treatments are better than people suffering in the streets.

He wants to bring them back because he can profit from directing investment to his cronies. If he cared about people suffering in the streets he'd have directed some investment wisely and gotten them off of the streets. Or, you know, backed an empty unit tax that would make housing affordable again.

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