It'll settle into a +1/2 troll. When I get this angry that's what happens.

And burning your house down because the plumbing needs work isn't just stupid it's crazy. Delete your account.

What scares me is that there was absolutely no attempt to sell this bill to the voters. The last time Trump did this and set up an economic collapse he at least spent some time tricking the voters into supporting it. We actually didn't get that economic collapse at the time because covid hit requiring the government to do a bunch of spending that kept things going. And then Trump lost his election and Biden picked up the pieces like a Democrat always does and started to clean up the mess.

This time it's clear the Republicans do not believe they will ever be another election after the midterms. And they are probably right. Propaganda and voter suppression means they can win any election. They are a little concerned about the midterms but honestly I don't think they needed to be.

The left wing is busy bickering with the centrists and between the two of them they're going to let Trump have a third term. Maybe even a fourth

They would still take the ride they would just have the debt.

Now they take the ride and their family has the debt because it's a 2-hour drive to a hospital.

In fact if you live in a suburb you're probably worse off. Some of the Republicans got some subsidies for their rural districts that'll keep a few of those hospitals alive until at least Trump's third term.

The suburbs are getting no such benefits. And they need those Medicaid dollars just as much.

One of the dirty little secrets nobody in America talks about is that the suburbs are not self-sustaining. You simply cannot have a large enough tax base to maintain the services people want with a population density that low.

When people left the suburbs leaving behind the poor the poor subsidized them.. and now the subsidies are going to get pulled because they were coming in the form of taxes and programs that just got cut.

This bill is going to hit the middle class like a truck.

And that means less money in the economy and that means fewer jobs and that means we're all fucked.

Under no circumstances do your interests align with Elon Musk or will they ever align with him. So you cannot count on anything he says or does doing anything positive in your life.

The right wing only talks about the debt when they want to take something away from you. The cost and the burden is always on you and never on them. Do not pay them any mind or any heed. They are evil people who are trying to hurt you. Hell not trying, succeeding.

Oh yeah establishing an immigration gestapo force and constantly being in the news (and bragging about it!) for how harsh and brutal the coming immigration crackdown and engaging in thought policing is overall just super welcoming to the best and brightest out there in the world. All this performative cruelty is just really gonna continue to make America look fantastic on the world stage.

So, I debated responding. And I may be more or less outing myself here - at least to anyone who also works at the University of Washington in STEM.

If anyone has bothered to paid attention to my history of comments, they know I am very much anti-Trump and lean somewhat liberal on most issues (although not all - and I'm certainly no rsilvergun).

However, while UW doesn't technically require it... from up and down my chain of command (as well as in several other departments where I have friends), over the past several years there have been frequent repeated attempts (typically somewhat passive-aggressive) to pressure us into doing things like list pronouns and include the stock "we're sorry we stole your land" signature add-ons. Just to pick one example - while we're never told "you absolutely must do this", we're told (repeatedly) the Chair or the Dean or some other leader "really wants and expects everyone to be doing this". Our department even announced that participation in DEI activities was becoming a required part of our annual performance review (such as participating in what was literally titled the "DEI book club") - although that requirement seems to have died shortly after January 20th.

So yeah, I am going to somewhat side with the GP - I do think there have been times where the pursuit of DEI, at least, has been taken too far.

You fucker said the same thing in 2008 when I told you to shit was going to hit the fan and every one of my predictions came true. Because they weren't my predictions..

I'm not some fucking genius idiot I'm just listening to what the economists are saying. This isn't fucking rocket surgery.

The economists are telling us that when this bill passes the bond markets are going to freak out it's going to collapse the economy.

They're also telling us that rural and suburban hospitals are going to close left and right.

Unlike fuckers like you I actually listen to fucking experts.

Now go back to complaining about trans girls and watching trans girl porn like a good little right winger. Enjoy homelessness. How much savings have you got? When you lose your job how long until you're homeless?

And enjoy homelessness. I am going to now spell some red hot white rage on you fuckers so feel free to mod me the fuck down I've got the karma to burn.

So if you live in a rural or suburban community you can expect to lose your hospital. You dumb mother fuckers didn't understand anything because you never do. Your hospitals rely on the reliable payments from Medicaid to stay open and we just shut Medicaid down.

Never mind the fact that a good chunk of you or either on Medicaid or have family that are on Medicaid and just don't know it because the program you're on is funded by Medicaid.

Now let's talk about what's going to happen when that Medicaid funding goes away. We are talking 1.2 trillion dollars.

What the name of fuck do you idiots think is going to happen when 1.2 trillion dollars exits the US economy and get stuffed into the pockets of the richest people on the planet?

You're going to lose your jobs people. We all are. We can fully expect 20 to 30% unemployment. That's on top of them chaos that AI is about to bring...

You will mortgage your houses, the ones you bought while they were heavily subsidized by the government, and before long the bank will come calling and a sheriff will kick you out of the house you bought.

There won't be any jobs for any of you either. You're too old and nobody wants you. They'll do the classic thing where they claim to be firing middle management but they're really getting rid of old people like you. And if you're over 30 congrats you're one of the old people.

I want you to know you're not going to escape this unscathed like you have in the past. The scale and the level of your fuck up is far beyond what you did when you elected Bush Junior or if you're old enough Bush senior or even Reagan.

And I know you don't believe this and I know that when the shit hits the fan you're going to blame Hillary Clinton's emails on Hunter biden's laptop.

So I'm really just raging at this point. Because you'll turn against Trump briefly but then the propaganda will hit right before the election and you'll be right back on the Trump train. Even while you're watching the propaganda on your phone over borrowed Wi-Fi from the McDonald's that you took the closest thing to a shower you could at when you scrubbed up in their bathroom after you lost your house.

I mean come on folks why would Hunter biden's laptop do this to you?

If you think opposition to this bill is restricted to only the "very left wing" then it kind a reveals how far on the right you are looking at it from.

I do appreciate that Republicans have come to embrace the whole police state thing, very cool and very American of them. The $45B for detention centers and the $150B or so for the Temu Schutzstaffel department will be used with the utmost discretion and respect for law.

I look forward to finding out how hot the stove actually is.

They will still blame woke and trans. Unless we have moved on to another moral panic that I can't even imagine because I'm not a right-wing operative. I see them trying to get everyone panicking over the furries but I don't think that's working because they're just aren't enough of them.

At the rate we are going we're going to have about 30 to 40% unemployment in 10 years. And then like all collapsing empires we will start invading other countries to loot them and shore up our Treasury.

Eventually somebody's going to pull those big firecrackers off the shelf and start lobbing them at people and that's probably it for humanity.

Fermi paradox ftw.

The budget deficit and the debt aren't a problem by themselves. Most of it we owe ourselves and it could just be chalked up to money supply. What we owe overseas is used to prop up the value of the dollar making imports way cheaper than they should be.

The problem is everything in this bill, literally everything goes straight to the 1% at your expense.

And that's going to crash the US economy and the bond market knows it.

This means that you're going to see yield curves flipping and bondsa not selling. Because again none of the money we're borrowing is going back into the economy and so it's not going to result in any growth. Investors will know that the United States can't keep ahead because we're letting the economy rot.

That's going to tank the value of the US dollar and then suddenly all the imports we've been relying on to keep our quality of life just barely where they are at will double or triple in price.

You would think nerds would understand this. A lot of us import are toys and games because they're often much cheaper thanks to exchange rates...

But nope. Here we are and we are so fucked. This is going to make 2008 look like the good times of the .com bubble.

Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.

People do not realize how big a disaster this is for anyone that works for a living.

We are basically handing another 5 trillion dollars to the 1% on top of the 55 trillion we already gave them in the last four decades.

The bond markets are spooked. They are going to stop buying us debt. When that happens the value of the dollar collapses and the cost of everything skyrockets.

This will cost you your home.

The medical care that you need to live will go shooting up in price and eventually you will mortgage your house to pay for it.

Then the bank takes your house and sells it to a billionaire for pennies on the dollar and they rent it back or they just sit on it to keep property values high.

And this isn't like 2008 when there were still affordable apartments out there. You're going to lose your house and your property and you're going to find that the rent for an apartment is more than the mortgage you were paying.

Meanwhile with the economy and freefall good luck finding a job.

I think the problem here is that the scale of the fuck up is too big for human beings to comprehend.

The worst of it is scheduled to hit right after the midterms. So you all still vote Republican but by the time you realize you fucked up it will be too late to fix it.

All this so we can indulge in some moral panics.

Actually I have, although it was decades ago. But I also know people who work in an auto shop now.

The Republicans, very cynically, set most of these healthcare cuts to hit shortly after the midterm elections.

They are very aware that they've been lying through their teeth, and they know a good chunk of their base is going to get hurt by this.