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Journal Em Emalb's Journal: The politics poll (since we've added folks to teh group. 35

Describe your political leanings.

Are you a republican, democrat, libertarian, greenie, socialist?

no poll options, I would like people to write more about it.

thanks.

Oh, and the bet from the previous entry was that someone would say "Macarena". No one did. I win $10. Thanks all. :D

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The politics poll (since we've added folks to teh group.

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  • When I first came to the US I was a bright red socialist (growing up in Sweden has that effect on people), I was borderline communist. However, the older I get the more I want to keep the money I earn (actually I just want to spend more, yay consumerism). The way I see it in most places in the US if you want a job there are jobs to be had, that wasn't the case in Sweden when I was growing up so social welfare was essential to keep people clothed and fed.
    I'm not a fan of either party with any say about thing
    • Funny that the Swedes were the first to post :-)

      Something I've seen in a lot of liberal 'mericans is the belief that the European/Scandinavian system is inherently better. That somehow just because you have welfare, healthcare, and social services, life is better all around. They tend to ignore the massive overhead of the system and the incredible waste. From personal experience, I'd guesstimate that two thirds of people in some form of job training programs are just there to get an umemployment/welfare che
      • They tend to ignore the massive overhead of the system and the incredible waste.

        We don't ignore it- we just think that human equality under the law and under economics is a value worth the cost. Anybody who ignores the cost, who thinks that EVERYBODY could live like the richest 1% in the United States do, is just lying to themselves.

        From personal experience, I'd guesstimate that two thirds of people in some form of job training programs are just there to get an umemployment/welfare check. A huge part o
        • Uhm, no.

          You see, by wasting money on adult daycare programs, we have less money for those who truly need it. There are a lot of people who could work who are just paid to sit on their ass in order to stay out of the unemployment statitics. The point of welfare is not to provide entertainment to spoiled able bodied adults.

  • I think I'm a socialist libertarian, or perhaps libertarian socialist.

    It's unfortunate that the libertarians are normally so closely associated with the republicans, the libertarians share a lot of things with the liberals as well, but that tends to get overlooked.

    Fundamentally, I'm libertarian. People should be left the hell alone to do their thing. You don't have a right to a lot of things. You don't have a right to universal healthcare, welfare, foodstamps, unemployment, higher education etc etc.

    So I'm l
  • I'm a Republican, with a pronounced Libertarian streak.

    I'd vote Libertarian, and have voted for Libertarians, but right now I think that the party platform of isolationism as foreign policy is short sighted.

    I'm also Pro-Life, and the only major party that's officially pro-life is the GOP.

  • I typically vote Democrat, since I am pretty liberal, but I certainly look at 3rd party candidates and Republican candidates, especially at the local level; if they are doing a good job locally I don't give a flying fwap what party they belong to (sames goes for if they are botching the job). I would be orgasmically ecstatic if we could get the hell away from our two-party system. I seem to have some Libertarian leanings: leave everyone else the hell alone, which is good nationally but not so good on the fo
    • Just out of curiosity:

      If John McCain had run against John Kerry, who would you have voted for?

      (this assumes you were not interested in voting for anyone else)
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        • I didn't expect you to respond to this, but I was glad you did.

          I'm also pleased to see you think McCain is a better choice as well, mainly because I like it when people agree with me. ;)

          Also, because I feel based on his record and his life, that he's the best man to run this country.

          I really really hope he runs in the next election. It may be enough to get me out in the streets begging for votes.
      • I probably would have still voted for Kerry, though it would have been a tougher choice for me because there are some things I really do like about McCain. I certainly would have scrutinized his voting record closely and seriously considered him. I actually would have preferred Edwards over Kerry (I mean damn, a democrat from the Jesse Helms state?) Anyway, McCain comes across as being an actual human being (something many politicians these days seriously lack). He also seems to care about actually doing th
      • If John McCain had run against John Kerry, who would you have voted for?

        If you had asked me that question five years ago, the answer would've been a no-brainer: McCain. With his gutting of the First Amendment (in the name of so-called campaign finance "reform") and now his attempt at selling out citizens and legal immigrants in favor of cheap labor from criminal aliens, it's becoming clear that McCain is as big a douchebag as Kerry. As someone who has taken an oath to uphold and defend the Constitutio

  • Fiscially conservative, socially progressive.

    Do whatever you want as long as you're not hurting anyone else, keep your hand out of my wallet.

    Government should do only what the private sector cannot do on its own.
  • I am a radical Ethelredist. I believe in the sole true claim to power of Ethelred Unraed, that all should worship Ethelred Unraed, that hawtt women should tear off their clothes in Ethelred Unraed's presence and throw themselves at Ethelred Unraed's feet, and that all possessions should belong to Ethelred Unraed.

    Of course, when I am feeling more magnanimous and decide to allow democratic republics to last a bit longer as my playthings, I generally pretend to be a left-liberal with a green hue (i.e. classi

    • I'm a rabid anti-Ethelredist. I say we should shun Ethelreds from society all over the world and give them a small crater on the moon to establish their strange, backwards society. ETHELRED is the reason for all the problems in the world. Bush, Clinton, American cheese, Enron--all Ethelred's fault!

      DOWN WITH THE ETHELS (no not Ethyls. well, yes, fossil fuels are a pain in the ass, but I'm talking about Ethelred...oh bugger)!!!!!!
  • The R's have been making some big mistakes of late with immigration and spending but the D's continue to display a complete lack of understanding about what's really important. (Kerry was out AGAIN saying "what we need to solve the latest Iraq problem is a summit...")

    So, for now, I'm a Republican but haven't been terribly happy with some of their actions.
  • I am a staunch Undecided.

    I think.
  • Currently leaning a bit to the left. Somehow one heel of these workshoes has been worn down worse than the other.
  • Radical Distributist Catholic with Protectionist Leanings. As I wrote yesterday, ain't no political party in the United States that fits my views- and very few politicians (Ron Saxton, one of the Republicans in the primary for governor of my state fits. Several America First party candidates fit. On the left, a smattering of Democrats including Peter DeFazio fit. But economic honesty is rare, and seamless garment of life social conservativism rarer still- so I vote as I will, almost at random).
  • I vote issues.

    I sometimes vote character.

    I never vote by party and i rarely vote by debate prowess.

    I like hot chocolate, shiny rocks, and good doctors, and vote for whatever i think will give people the most of the first two and as much as they need of the latter.

    Which is to say, i'm useless as a party bloc, leverageless as a random constituent, and perennially displeased with our progress in any direction.

    ooh, a shiny!

    *chases off*
  • My profile adds the word "mostly" on account of libertarian principles don't work on the international stage.

    Also, I lean towards the republicans for (theoretical, unfortunately) fiscal conservatism.

    Socially...libertarian. You're free to do whatever you want on your own dime and time. I may have an OPINION about it (morality, cleverness, intelligence), but as long as you're not actively harming anyone else, have a day.
  • I am a middle of the road kind of guy. I'm pro-choice but also pro-death penalty. I think that government needs to take a stronger hand in some areas, but also needs to lay off in others. I have no problem with gays getting married or serving in the military. (On the latter, I'd like to quote Barry Goldwater, "If the rifle can't tell the difference, why does it matter to you?")

    I think we need a strong defense, but not necessarily the industrial-defense complex we currently have. We should not start w

  • I'm ridiculously conservative in most matters:
    I follow the rules, so should everyone else. If you're going to break the rules, don't get pissed when you get the smackdown to end all smackdowns

    That's why this immigrations stuff is really pissing me off. They should all be trucked out of here ASAP, if they are illegal. If you break the law, don't get caught, if you do, god have mercy on your soul.

    Aside from that, I'm a small government person. If law enforcement should be draconian, there shouldn't be
  • I guess for the next one you can ask how much does everyone make (since Sam already did the religion one) ;)

    Chris Rock had a great sketch in his Never Scared stand-up where he talked about how white folks avoid talk of politics like the plague. Of course that might be because of caucasians being dominant in both parties so a casual conversation can bleed out into a heated argument. I also think its because every one has had the political conversation, knows the standing lines on everyone. And you can cu
  • I, like my lovely wife of eight years, am a Christian Democrat.

    I think that we as a country need to follow Jesus's words and care for the poor more, to go the extra mile for everyone and anyone who helps us, and to love everyone of any country, any class, and any color as if they were our own brothers.

    I also think that our country is better served by being a country of freedom than a country of righteousness. The Republican party, as dominated by the Religious Right, isn't that far away from the Parisess a
  • I am a Social Democrat. I believe that a representative government, elected by universal suffrage and supported by universal literacy, should act as a force for good. The poor should be uplifted and given opportunities to succeed. There is no freedom without choices, and so universal freedom requires the presence of viable choices for everyone. Everyone needs to be instructed in science and history, so that they may draw conclusions and develop wisdom, and encouraged to exercise abstract thought. Capitalism
  • And no, that does not mean "Anarcho-Capitalist"

    Basically, I lean towards the libertarian end of libertarian-socialism.

    I am neither pro nor anti capitalism. I neither believe that capitalism is the source of all our problems, nor that it will solve all our problems. It is better than Feudalism. Also, I don't believe our current economic system actually is capitalist, because the US Federal Government is the largest consumer, and because speculation makes up so large a part of our economy. (I've heard a signi

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