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Comment Re: Not a fan of it but glad they won (Score 1) 44

This should be about state's rights. The modern interpretation of the commerce clause has gutted the Constitution. And instead of everyone living in a state were they have some potential representation of their regional demographic, we have a nation where only the ones that can afford to support 9 figure campaign budgets get a voice.

Comment Re:So much for the rule of law (Score 1) 44

Oh God is stupid as he is I can't imagine he doesn't know that. If anything it would have been very very carefully explained to him by the other lawyers.

he's just corrupt. The Republican party has put a shitload of corrupt judges on the bench so that they could get them to rule in favor of large businesses and corporations against consumers and employees. Justice beer bro and that one girl that couldn't answer high School civics questions during her Senate hearing are probably the most famous examples but people don't like to think about how staggeringly incompetent they are. Clarence Thomas is another great example, George Bush was angry he was going to have to nominate a black man because he was as you might imagine kind of racist so he picked the most incompetent and corrupt black man he could find and rammed him through the Senate.

Comment You're not trying to eliminate them (Score 1) 44

You are regulating them. That's why we have Las vegas. Dumbass young men can travel to Las Vegas and lose their short once or twice and then they have that barrier between themselves and their addiction. It also means it's much easier to regulate, serious addicts for example used to be able to contact all the casinos in Vegas and get put on a list and they would not be allowed to gamble anymore.

The problem with gambling is that it is legitimately and clinically addictive. Prostitution is a problem but again it needs regulation.

Basically you don't completely criminalize something because yeah it doesn't go away what you do is heavily heavily and systematically regulate it. You control access to it in a positive way that prevents the worst damage.

Problem you're having is you are stuck in black and white thinking. Everything has to be either on or off, all or nothing. Gray area suck and their unpleasant to think about so I don't blame you but still.

Comment You can already see some cracks (Score 1) 44

The fact that we invaded Iran because the senile old man didn't understand that they would and could close the strait of Hormuz is huge.

Unless Trump backs down in the next week or so we are going to have massive food shortages. That will drive up the cost of everything everywhere as everyone competes for a shrinking food supply. This is because so much of the fertilizer goes through the straight and we are in the planting season and we need to get going and we can't.

One of the problems with this country is people aren't very bright. They can't extrapolate even simple things. The majority of Americans seem to think at about the level of a 12-year-old. So they can't figure out the difference between news and propaganda and they can't understand that just because they could afford to eat this week doesn't mean they can afford to eat next week.

On top of that you've got a good chunk of people who are over that edge already and when you are struggling for your next meal it's hard to think clearly. So even if you somehow made it over the hump of thinking like a 12-year-old a few years of poverty and the stress that comes with it will knock you right back down.

Which is exactly why the Epstein class keeps so many people in that state. Idle hands are The devil's plaything after all...

Comment Whether or not it's possible doesn't matter (Score 1) 75

It is what the Epstein class is actively trying to do. They may not achieve everything and all of their goals but they will achieve a lot of them and significantly reduce their dependency on your labor and therefore your quality of life.

Not everything has to be black and white 100%. You're thinking is too constrained and limited. Members of the ruling class think generationally not moment-to-moment. They aren't trying to survive until the next year like you and I are so they can think in ways you and I can't

Comment For only 500 people yeah they can be (Score 1) 75

If you talk to an actual farmer you're going to find out that there is literally nothing that robots can't Farm. The problem is cost. But remember when all of human history and civilization exists to glorify and uplift 500 people out of 8 billion money is not an object.

The Earth is a resort for 500 billionaires and we are all just staff. We are about to get replaced.

Comment I'm not sure what logical fallacy is at play here (Score 1) 44

But that has nothing to do with the point the op made.

Preventing criminals from destroying private businesses isn't "structuring laws around business longevity". If you want that the complete lack of antitrust law enforcement would be a better example.

Private businesses are part of the overall infrastructure that makes your society work. So yeah when there is a attack on necessary infrastructure you do something about it or your civilization collapses.

I really hope you're at least getting paid to post nonsense like that. It would be sad if you were doing it for free...

Comment Marshall Brain's "Manna" depicts similar things (Score 2) 75

Thanks for your insightful posts. I expanded on that idea in 2010: https://pdfernhout.net/beyond-...
"This article explores the issue of a "Jobless Recovery" mainly from a heterodox economic perspective. It emphasizes the implications of ideas by Marshall Brain and others that improvements in robotics, automation, design, and voluntary social networks are fundamentally changing the structure of the economic landscape. It outlines towards the end four major alternatives to mainstream economic practice (a basic income, a gift economy, stronger local subsistence economies, and resource-based planning). These alternatives could be used in combination to address what, even as far back as 1964, has been described as a breaking "income-through-jobs link". This link between jobs and income is breaking because of the declining value of most paid human labor relative to capital investments in automation and better design. Or, as is now the case, the value of paid human labor like at some newspapers or universities is also declining relative to the output of voluntary social networks such as for digital content production (like represented by this document). It is suggested that we will need to fundamentally reevaluate our economic theories and practices to adjust to these new realities emerging from exponential trends in technology and society."

That said, indigenous ways were "the original affluent society" (even if such ways might have been harder to practice on a restricted reservation after extensive conflicts with Europeans wielding "Guns, Germs, and Steel"):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
"The basis of Sahlins' argument is that hunter-gatherer societies are able to achieve affluence by desiring little and meeting those needs/desires with what is available to them. This he calls the "Zen road to affluence, which states that human material wants are finite and few, and technical means unchanging but on the whole adequate"."

Comment Why would I need to get rich (Score 3, Interesting) 75

If I already own everything and I have a limitless supply of robots to tend to my needs?

Yeah I need some engineers to keep the robots going and some thugs to keep the engineers in line but that's a few thousand people tops. Everybody else can just go live in squalor.

If you've ever seen an Indian reservation before the casinos that's what the Epstein class has in store for you and me.

Basically they are tired of the exact kind of dependency you are describing. And they are taking steps to eliminate that dependency.

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