I'm not sure what that proves, exactly? 2011 was just 13 years ago. It hasn't been that long. I think most of us here have non-Apple hardware as old and older that's still gets regular use.

Well, we're talking about iPads here...or, tablets in general.

The iPads DO have longevity...my iPad Pro from 2017 (I mistakenly said 2015 earlier) is chugging right along, good battery life still, and has held up on a LOT of traveling.

I use it pretty much daily.

Yes, "only" about 7+ years....but anecdotally, most of my friends have burned through 3-6 Android tablets over this time....

And with the iPads...you could generally in the past get better hardware on them....my Android friend back in the day was blow away that I could get .5 TB onboard storage on a tablet that size...apparently Android didn't have an option back then.

The iPad / Apple Pencil combo, is very hard to beat for creatives....using apps like the Affinity Suite (Photo, Designer, Publisher)...Procreate...FCPX and nowadays...Davinci Resolve.

You can run some VERY powerful art/photo/video apps on the iPad....and while the Android and Windows tablets are catching up, all of these apps pretty much first came out on the Apple tablets.

And the new iPad pro's announced today, with the M4 chips can out spec MANY full blow laptops out there on the market.

They are pricy, but I find in the tablet market, you get what you pay for in many cases.

I can take my art work on the road with me easily with the iPad....I can work on things easily on the plane or pool side....and not have to lug around a laptop to get the same power and apps.

Most of the time, the apps that run on the iPad are not paired down, weaker versions of the desktop version...they are the full blown versions only adapted for non-keyboard use...

That's not the story for these apps on other tablet platforms...at least not from what I've found.

I've seen renders of some pretty difficult things (high megapixel, 15+ shot focus stacking ) render on the iPad quicker than the same job on a laptop...

This is nice to have in such a light, easily transportable package.

A reasonable approach is to get a Pixel (N)a when a refurb is $200 and Lineage support is complete. Hard to go wrong.

The investigation was launched after an employee reported the problem to Boeing management, and Boeing informed the FAA.

What's the over/under on this employee being found dead in the next couple weeks?

...inding them guilty of violating national security by passing a law instead of letting the courts decide. I'm no expert on the US consitution

Ok I'll help you.

When something is declared a national security threat, it is not something that is done through the courts, never has been.

... the controls will be weird AF and it'll have about half the processing power of a Steam Deck.

"The way you manufacture a Wii is you take two GameCubes and duct tape them together." - Chris Hecker

The pursuit of Next Quarter's Numbers have completely wrecked ALL our big names. GM, Ford, Boeing, etc etc etc.

I would argue that is backwards. I would argue that in fact things were going pretty well when profit was a primary goal.

Then companies started saying, profit is not as important as reducing our carbon emissions.

Then companies started saying, profit is not as important as "inclusivity".

Then companies started to say "we can't do any work without a lot of training that assumes all of our employees are monsters who will rape anyone at the drop of a hat".

Pretty soon companies were not caring about profits or quality at all, but only making sure they were offending no-one, inside or outside the company... and here we are today.

Maybe what needs to happen is a little more focus back on profit and hard facts like numbers.

It's hard to argue that employees doing unacceptable nonsense like this is not directly tied to inclusive hiring practices that require hiring people because of the color of their skin, rather than skill or even ethical background.

Wow...nice how long these things last, it's only now looking long in the tooth to me, and that's only for some pretty resource intensive apps I want to use...for daily things most people would use, it would still be overkill for most things.

How do the Android tablets stand up to the Apple I pad Pros as far as longevity?

I use mine pretty much daily.

But I'd like to use some of the newer, resource intensive apps on my iPad like Resolve, FCPX, and the newer Affinity products, etc....Logic Pro.

I'll likely keep my current one...maybe just keep it in the kitchen plugged in all the time just to have quick recipe reference there...and get the new one.

I think the 13" would be a bit too large to carry around on travels or to neighborhood pool, or when out and about comfortably....might get the 11" one loaded up....

12mos, interest free with AppleCare+ is just about $200/mo for 12 months. Not too bad...for loaded iPad Pro, with new pencil and the keyboard (I've never had the external keyboard before...might go to store to try that out first to see if I'd really use it).

On the phone, push power 5 times put it into emergency mode.

Yeah...in an emergency...you most likely are NOT going to have a chance or time to grab the phone and click anything accurately 1-2 times, much less 5.

If the cops grab you for any reason, first thing they likely will do is immediately separate you from your phone....as would anyone wanting to get IN to your phone on a stop.

Password/passcode all the time in place of biometrics is STILL the superior way to lock your items.

It still has no fingerprint sensor. Face ID is a handy accessory, but some requirements need something that works whatever you look like or when you actually don't want the thing to unlock unless you actually do something instead of merely being present. It should have both, especially for such a price.

Biometrics of any kind are a bad idea, especially if you want to keep it locked from authorities, etc.

Passwords/passcodes work great still......I use them on all my electronics.

We've seen how "successful" the recent movies/shows are after they went by "replace the hero with a woman, and make her gay" mantra....

Will they change and go back to decades old, proven characters and storylines....or will they continue to remake everything to fit the "narrative" they seem to have today?

TikTok is a platform...is it not speech.

Banning TT on the basis of national security, does not, in fact, ban or restrict any US speech....there are plenty of choices out there to use as a platform/public square to post your speech.

So, this should not be a 1st A case at all.

platform != speech.

Redfall was so bad they probably should have converted anyone who worked on it into a janitor and made sure they never works on games again.

At some point, everyone who worked on it is responsible for the condition it arrives in.

Fingerprint and FaceID are both vulnerable to physically overpowering the authorized user — trivially — to unlock it. Passwords are (well, can be, if you're competent) much more secure for circumstances short of actual torture.

Men with real hair on their chest.

I think one of them is a chick....not sure about chest hair volume.

Hell, these days...maybe not even a chick...who the hell knows.

*sigh*