Conservative objecting to pubic blockers drugs (aka chemically castrate) and surgery on minors. Presenting it as a concern over dress code is extremely disingenuous.

This isn't new. I have some friends..not many, but some. Curiously, few are my age. They're either 10-20 years under, or 10-20 years over. But i've known them all for 25+ years now.

I don't have kids. They don't have kids. None of us wants kids, and when we do talk about the subject, it's always been -- even as far back as the 1990s -- "who wants to raise a child in this world / economy / geopolitical situation?"

You imagine? Trying to raise a child in today's world? With war looming ever larger on the horizon, the economy on an express ride to hell, and then all the bizarro-world inversions were good is bad, left is right, up is down?

Nah bruh. We're done feeding the machine. You won't make money from my offspring, because I have none.

I do have exactly three friends my age -- I grew up with them, went to elementary and high school with them. We were all raised catholic, but I lost my religion around age 14 - 16. They remained devout catholics. They're the only ones with kids. They're also the only two of my whole group who stayed in PR. I find it curious, that it is the religious ones that chose to / blundered into having a family.

Rights are for citizens, is a foreign owned company a citizen to the supreme court ... outlook is hazy.

The users and the URL, if ByteDance picks a buyer soon enough they can do tests with part of the users with their own algorithm till the final sale.

Let me first say - I think you are correct

but - I also don't think that is the only explanation. One other I think reasonably likely possibility is they are hedging. The law gives the POTUS authority to delay enforcement for some additional months if he finds there is 'progress' being made toward divestment.

Progress - is one of those squishy bits of language that can mean anything anyone wants it to mean. TikTok knows they are popular with the Biden voter, and they know an election is coming. Even thought he initial drop dead date is after the election, there isn't anything to say Biden can't announce they are being given the extension early. They might want to secure the extra time by threatening to take their ball and go home. There is not grantee they will be able to get an injunction or stay while they fight this in court, or they might simply want to secure a few extra months to see home many young Americans they can convince to become transexuals.

except that fore the most part education and the ability of the public to think critically have not changed THAT much.

Its the social media that is new, and the degree of near constant coupling to it via smart phone that is newer still.

So using a little of that 'critical thinking' clearly you are wrong and social media is very much the problem.

$13 loss on a $42K average car seems quite manageable. Add a must have upgrade, lets say a $35 upgrade to replace the cigarette lighter with a two port USB charger. Come on salesman, just one final little upgrade.

However I'm concerned about the $5K reduction in cost on the "Mustang", how was that achieved specifically?

Which implies EV production may be somehow capped so that losses do not exceed available write offs? For example, if you could only theoretically deduct up to $X billion, then you should not produce more vehicles than will produce $X billion in losses. Anything beyond $X creates losses that will be realized, that are not convertible to tax write offs.

Its just theatre to keep the true believing party members happy. No one expects the current and proposed mandates to really go into effect. All the hardship and inconvenience is scheduled to take place on some other politician's watch. Well, that future office holder has no obligation to accept the pain of past theatrics. The mandates will be scrapped or changed as their start dates near.

The dates will be pushed forward due to the anticipated technological and infrastructure requirements that have not materialized on schedule. Or they will be "morphed" into new taxes. Personally I expect to see the California mandate morph into and ICE-tax as the date approaches and EV sales are lagging.

Ford's method of making a profit requires the large volume of sales that only the mass market can provide. They are not designed to profit off of only the early adopter market.

That's not true. The market is not ready for mass adoption. We are barely getting past the "early adopter" stage.
There is a thing called the Technology Adoption Lifecycle. It recognizes that there is not really one market, that there are actually five markets with five distinct sets of customers with different means, different requirements, and different perspectives. We can simplify this for discussion by reducing the first two markets to the "early adopters" and the latter three markets to the "main market". Between these two is a "chasm" that is notoriously difficult, and time consuming, the cross.

The early adopters tend to be far wealthier, they tend to own homes that be updated with their own chargers, these home tend to offer shelter to the vehicles from extreme weather, etc. The preceding makes them ideal customers for a new EV offerings in general. Now add that they also tend to be less risk averse and willing to try new and unproven things. They are now idea customers for the new and emerging EV technology.

They can afford the higher price tags.
There is very little range anxiety as they top off their batteries to full each night when they park in the garage.
There is very little cold weather anxiety as their car is protected in their garage overnight
There is very little anxiety of expensive repairs, the lack of small local inexpensive repair shops.
They can afford a mistake, buying a technology before it is truly ready for the mass market.

Much of the main market simply can't afford the more expensive EV vehicles. Shortages of chargers and unmaintained broken chargers generate legitimate anxiety, as the Ford CEO's charging problems demonstrated on his failed "road trip". As did last winter's example of EVs that failed to start in the morning after exposure to harsh overnight conditions. The main market is terribly innovative, they want to see a reasonable timespan were the new technology is largely working, working for people like them, not people in some idealized situation. We aren't there yet.

We are only now attempting to get past the early adopters, and the chasm between them and the mass market is not built yet.

Hey anon,

The most hated -- even by republicans -- of republicans -- Richard Motherfucking Milhouse Nixon -- started the EPA

Go back to your boxed wine and watching The View. Drop a couple of Xanax if it makes you feel better.

I would like to think the ascendant wing of the GOP is the Goldwatter wing.

Nixon was were things started to go wrong and we are going to put it right; by moving to the right.

it's not 1977 anymore. When was the last time you saw actual sky-blotting smog? I mean, beisdes Beijing and India.

Cars cleaned up their act 30 years ago, really since modern engine controls, so let's call it.. late 80's.

What BEVs are for is muggles that hate cars and think they're appliances. The person who will start a gasoline car from stone cold, drive it only 5 minutes to the store, then back to the house. That car never got hot. That car will die a horrible, early death from the condensation in the oil never being boiled out.

You just lost all credibility with me. Of all the car youtubers you could pull, and you pull him? Doug DeMuro? Really?

Electric cars for muggles. Petrol for those who remember how to drive, how to care for cars, how to shift a manual box, how to gap plugs, etc. Enthusiasts. People like me.

I loathe the idea of car as appliance, and I don't quite sit well with people who look at cars as just an appliance. A good, fun car is so much more than just transportation.

  But, try explaining that to non-car-people. It's impossible.

Bottom line -- let us choose. Saying "NO MORE GAS CARS PAST x DATE" is tantamount to asking for a revolution, imo, and that's exactly how I interpret all these mandates. The modern equivalent of "Let them eat cake!"

It's OK. We don't have mlle Guillotine here, but we got plenty of rope. That Tree of Liberty is sure looking very withered these days..
 

If they are already losing money on each car, how are they not going to end up losing even more money if they drop the prices?