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Going To Boot Camp 531

An anonymous reader writes "PC World has first impressions of what it's like to run Windows with Boot Camp, the recently announced official dual-boot software for the Intel Macs." From the article: "Back in Windows, I got right down to business and installed a few games to put the graphics and sound support to the test. The quick and dirty verdict on performance? Most impressive. Doom 3 and Far Cry both ran smoothly with high-end graphics options turned on. In both cases, I had to tweak visual settings manually, since the games automatically set themselves to very low settings. Far Cry, for example, autodetected very low settings, but it ran without a hitch when I bumped the resolution up to 1280 by 720, with all visual quality options set to 'High.'"
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  • by tpgp ( 48001 ) on Thursday April 06, 2006 @11:18AM (#15076373) Homepage
    This is truly a week of firsts.

    It most certainly is!

    Its the first time I've seen so many Macheads get so excited about running windows (or windows applications).

    The biggest turnaround in groupthink since.... well... the switch to intel ;-)
  • And yet, you still said it.
  • by clevershark ( 130296 ) on Thursday April 06, 2006 @11:23AM (#15076426) Homepage
    About 10 years ago I showed a friend my computer (a Mac, at the time) and told him about how, with VirtualPC, I could run Windows on Mac. He didn't know much about tech at the time, so his comment was "so what you're telling me is that you can 'dumb down' your computer so you can use Windows programs?"

    I smirked a little and replied, "Precisely!"
  • by michaeldot ( 751590 ) on Thursday April 06, 2006 @11:23AM (#15076431)
    My MacBook Pro is a bright shiny box, you insensitive clod!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 06, 2006 @11:24AM (#15076439)
    Dear Mr. Dvorak:
    Ann Landers wouldn't print this. I have nowhere else to turn. Have to get the word out. Warn other parents. I must be rambling on. Let me try and explain. It's about my son, Billy. He's always been a good, normal ten year old boy. Well, last spring we sat down after dinner to select summer camp for Billy. We sorted through the camp brochures. There were the usual camps with swimming, canoeing, games, singing by the campfire you know. There were sports camps and specialty camps for weight reduction, music, military camps and camps that specialized in Tibetan knot tying. I tried to talk him into Camp Winnepoopoo. It's where he went last year. (He made an adorable picture out of painted pinto beans and macaroni). Billy would have none of it. Billy pulled a brochure out of his pocket. It was for a COMPUTER CAMP| We should have put our foot down right there, if only we had known. He left three weeks ago. I don't know what's happened. He's changed. I can't explain it. See for yourself. These are some of my little Billy's letters.

    Dear Mom,
    The kids are dorky nerds. The food stinks. The computers are the only good part. We're learning how to program. Late at night is the best time to program, so they let us stay up.
    Love, Billy.

    Dear Mom,
    Camp is O.K. Last night we had pizza in the middle of the night. We all get to choose what we want to drink. I drink Classic Coke. By the way, can you make Szechwan food? I'm getting used to it now. Gotta go, it's time for the flowchart class.
    Love, Billy.

    P.S. This is written on a word processor. Pretty swell, huh? It's spell checked too.

    Dear Mom,
    Don't worry. We do regular camp stuff. We told ghost stories by the glow of the green computer screens. It was real neat. I don't have much of a tan 'cause we don't go outside very often. You can't see the computer screen in the sunlight anyway. That wimp camp I went to last year fed us weird food too. Lay off, Mom. I'm okay, really.
    Love, Billy.

    Dear Mom,
    I'm fine. I'm sleeping enough. I'm eating enough. This is the best camp ever. We scared the counselor with some phony worm code. It was real funny. He got mad and yelled. Frederick says it's okay. Can you send more money? I spent mine on a pocket protector and a box of blank diskettes. I've got to chip in on the phone bill. Did you know that you can talk to people on a computer? Give my regards to Dad.
    Love, Billy.

    Dear Mother,
    Forget the money for the telephone. We've got a way to not pay. Sorry I haven't written. I've been learning a lot. I'm real good at getting onto any computer in the country. It's really easy! I got into the university's in less than fifteen minutes. Frederick did it in five, he's going to show me how. Frederick is my bunk partner. He's really smart. He says that I shouldn't call myself Billy anymore. So, I'm not.
    Signed, William.

    Dear Mother,
    How nice of you to come up on Parents Day. Why'd you get so upset? I haven't gained that much weight. The glasses aren't real. Everybody wears them. I was trying to fit in. Believe me, the tape on them is cool. I thought that you'd be proud of my program. After all, I've made some money on it. A publisher is sending a check for $30,000. Anyway, I've paid for the next six weeks of camp. I won't be home until late August.
    Regards, William.

    Stop treating me like a child. True -- physically I am only ten years old. It was silly of you to try to kidnap me. Do not try again. Remember, I can make your life miserable (i.e. - the bank, credit bureau, and government computers). I am not kidding. O.K.? I won't write again and this is your only warning. The emotions of this interpersonal communication drain me.
    Sincerely, William.

    See what I mean? It's been two weeks since I've heard from my little boy. What can I do, Mr. Dvorak? I know that it's probably too late to save my little Billy. But, if by printing these letters you can save JUST ONE...CHILD from a life of programming, please, I beg of you to do so. Thank you very much.

    Sally Gates, Concerned Parent
  • by pedalman ( 958492 ) on Thursday April 06, 2006 @11:27AM (#15076471)
    Now we can own a Mac that can display a Sad Mac on a blue background.

    What's next? DLL Hell?

  • by boxlight ( 928484 ) on Thursday April 06, 2006 @11:35AM (#15076579)
    ok -- i did it.

    after years of grumbling about windows, drooling over macs, and making all sort of excuses, i finally opened my wallet and bought a mac. (i have literally been thinking about doing this since the tangerine iMac)

    it's the 20" intel iMac. bought it last night and should be here any day.

    for the record, it was the support for dual booting OS X and XP that did it for me: (a) i need a windows machine for software development purposes; (b) i had uncertainly about the availability of mac alternatives to some of my most used windows utilities (ex. dvdshrink, nero ... call of duty ;)

    looks like i'm officially a mac guy now -- going to have to put that white apple sticker on my rear bumper -- Yikes!

  • by qiuxing ( 811756 ) on Thursday April 06, 2006 @11:40AM (#15076646)
    Not impressed, since even cockroaches make group decisions. ;-)
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 06, 2006 @11:46AM (#15076705)
    Why run a mac anyway? They're huge pieces of expensive shit. And OS X is the most overrated OS since Linux. So... what's your point?
  • by DrVomact ( 726065 ) on Thursday April 06, 2006 @11:49AM (#15076744) Journal
    Why would I want to run the worst possible OS on the most expensive hardware? What a perversity! I want to put together my PC myself out of stock parts, then boot MacOS X...with Windows emulation until the software developers catch on and drop Windows. It would feel so good to pay for MacOS rather than the world's biggest software turd. Heck I'd pay twice as much for a good OS...I just don't want to be locked into Apple's hardware.
  • by lyonsden ( 543685 ) on Thursday April 06, 2006 @11:51AM (#15076778) Homepage

    I'm just waiting for Microsoft to come out with a press release saying that now that Mac's can boot Windows XP they now own 100% of the desktop marketplace.

    That will be followed shortly by a law suit against apple for not including XP on every Mac sold.

  • by Queer Boy ( 451309 ) * <dragon.76NO@SPAMmac.com> on Thursday April 06, 2006 @12:00PM (#15076873)
    I have a friend who uses PCs that went and bought a Mac mini last night just to run Windows on it. The reasoning? Why buy a stank Dell when you can get a fetch Mac.
  • by Phillup ( 317168 ) on Thursday April 06, 2006 @12:01PM (#15076882)
    looks like i'm officially a mac guy now

    If you are, then I'm a lesbian because I like going down on chicks.

    Point is... you have quite a ways to go. The first step is realizing that Windows is of no use to you *at* *all*.

    When you make that step, then you'll be on your way to being a "mac guy".

    Right now, all you are is a mac *owner*.
  • by Da_Biz ( 267075 ) on Thursday April 06, 2006 @12:08PM (#15076945)
    From Apple's Boot Camp page:
    Windows running on a Mac is like Windows running on a PC. That means it'll be subject to the same attacks that plague the Windows world. So be sure to keep it updated with the latest Microsoft Windows security fixes.

    While the statements are factually correct, I found that the use of the terms "plague" and "1980s" on this page to be too pretentious for my sake.

    I mostly use Windows platforms, and am looking forward to buying the first Mac system I've owned in over 11 years.

    Do I like and appreciate Mac OS and Apple hardware? Yes.

    Do I appreciate the grotesque levels of narcissism on this page? No.

    Apple, enough already. If you want some reasons to get over yourself, look at some of the hardware problems you've had with laptops in the past.
  • by Moofie ( 22272 ) <lee@ringofsatur n . c om> on Thursday April 06, 2006 @12:16PM (#15077024) Homepage
    "I feel it's to dumbed down to appeal to newbies and other non-technical people."

    I'm sorry you feel that way. Do you want a hug?
  • by rwven ( 663186 ) on Thursday April 06, 2006 @12:25PM (#15077116)
    you forgot about the "ridiculous price" argument. :-D
  • by irrelative83 ( 715424 ) on Thursday April 06, 2006 @04:45PM (#15079622)
    >>Moved my girl to Ubuntu just a few weeks ago, and she only boots dual-boots into windos for games by now.

    At first I thought you meant your girlfriend...but then I remmbered the audience, and realized you probably call your second computer your 'girl'
  • by tfinniga ( 555989 ) on Thursday April 06, 2006 @11:12PM (#15081984)
    I'm a CS student, and we've got quite a mix in our lab here. We do graphics/vision/image processing stuff, and different people like different environments. However, given the fact that our machines can be triple-boot, I doubt we'll ever buy another Dell, simply because the lab can afford apple hardware, and it makes us feel warm and fuzzy inside to have beautiful machines.. :).
  • by godnix ( 746270 ) <[godnix] [at] [gmail.com]> on Friday April 07, 2006 @10:28AM (#15083954) Homepage Journal
    Now that Apple Computer has quietly made it known that its new Intel-based Macs will be able to dual-boot into Windows, we finally will have a basis for benchmark comparisons which will be.... well.... Apples to Apples.

Solutions are obvious if one only has the optical power to observe them over the horizon. -- K.A. Arsdall