Trigun Coming to Cartoon Network 229
MoeMoe writes "Well I was just watching Cartoon Network and it looks like Trigun will begin airing in just a couple of weeks. The CN website gives a brief description here" Trigun is among my favorite anime series. It gets a little crazy by the end, but for the most part it's pretty lighthearted fun, with some great action. CN sure seems to love the Anime Sci Fi Westerns. I wonder if they'll carry some of the fluffier stuff besides Tenchi. Love Hina would be a fun choice. Or Excel Saga.
Why not air something *new* (Score:5, Informative)
For those that havn't seen it, though, Trigun is very cool.
Re:Why not air something *new* (Score:5, Interesting)
Plus it has some of the most cosplayable chars around which is always a plus...(i look forward to handing candy out to the little vashes next holloween)
Re:Why not air something *new* (Score:2)
The what?
Or maybe they provided bg info? (Score:3, Informative)
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Re:Why not air something *new* (Score:5, Interesting)
Plus, Trigun is new to me. And I'm sure it's new to lots of people.
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Where is my level 5, 6, 7, or whatever and the mythical Dragonball AF?!
Re:Why not air something *new* (Score:3, Interesting)
Essentially, this show takes place in an immersive Everquest-on-whale-steroids called "The World" and follows a PC (Player Character) named Tsukasa who can't log out. Granted, it loses something in the dubbing, but it still is quite kickass.
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Trigun (Score:5, Informative)
So if you dont like it at first hang in there...the sci-fi story that kicks in around ep 12 is really cool.
Actually... (Score:1, Interesting)
It sort of seems that way, but if you finish watching the whole thing, then you take a breather and then watch the entire series again, you'll see almost from the very beginning that there are clues and other hints that Vash isn't the ditz that he makes himself out to be.
Wooo, Mister Run-on Sentence!
Re:Trigun (Score:1)
I do agree, though, that the second half of the series is when the story line picks up a bit.
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It seems that way at first, but those first episodes set up Vash's background, his character, the way he's lived his entire life. Without it, its hard to understand just how big of a deal the stuff at the end is.
Re:Trigun (Score:2, Informative)
Also, I really like the way the series builds up. Starts out light and silly, and then gets damned serious. You start out seeing Vash like the insurance girls see him. And the scene where Vash explains his past to millie... Wow, that was great.
I think of all the Anime series I've seen, this and Irrespo
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The next 12 surely redeemed the series for me (and ironically enough, really made me appreciate the first 12 a lot more).
First or Last 12 (Score:2, Insightful)
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Anime (Score:5, Interesting)
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Love Hina (Score:5, Interesting)
(For those who don't know, Love Hina is considered a "harem" anime, where all of the girls at one part or another are interested in the main character, who is usually a loser. I consider it a "fan service revenge" anime, because as soon as there is fan service, someone ends up paying for it, usually the aforementioned loser main character. I still enjoy the series, however.)
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Re:Love Hina (Score:2, Funny)
God I love that show.
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Re:Are all anime creators pervs? (Score:3, Interesting)
It's Japan. They have different moral values. We don't live in one big culture. Live with it. But keep reading, I've got more to say that might interest you.
Firstly, I haven't seen a lot of anime, as I'm fairly selective and only watch the good stuff. But of those I've seen I haven't had a problem with the sexuality, and that includes Love Hina (although I found the bou
Excel Saga (Score:5, Funny)
Pretty exciting for a spreadsheet really.
Re:Excel Saga (Score:2)
Wha...? (Score:5, Funny)
darker and deeper (Score:2, Funny)
The series starts of quite wacky and goofy, but gets darker and deeper as the story progresses. Its easily one of my favorite series. --CmdrTaco.
Parallels to the Bush Presidency?
Ach! (Score:5, Interesting)
Excel saga has some innuendo that cartoon network (if they had it) might filter out it, which would ruin the whole feel of the anime. I wish they'd do oh my goddess, or go with NG-Eva.
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Me, I like to do both, dub, and then sub. That way I don't miss anything on the screen while I'm glancing at the subtitles.
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"Praise Saddam?"
"Don't mind if I do!"
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As opposed to the obnoxious ending that's allready there.
Eva was great--right up until the end, where the perspective completely changed and thus killed any suspension of disbelief the series built up.
Sorry, man. Eva ruined itself.
Re:Ach! (Score:3, Informative)
When you just download and encourage others to download anime you are hurting the usa anime industry which is not big and powerful like the RIAA and actually does need your money.
I don't however have anything against downloading fansubs of shows that arnt in the usa yet. If you really like the series buy the DVDs later for the extras.
Re:Ach! (Score:5, Insightful)
Plus, I am a hell of a lot more likely to buy an anime that I pirated first to see if it was any good.
Also, using your logic, is buying anime off of e-bay a crime against the anime industry? I understand your debate (I did my Eng 103 final on P2P) but I believe that too many people say P2P should stop and you should buy anime so the RIAA won't shut down all the networks, but doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose? Maybe if the RIAA and the MPAA made a system that cost 10 bucks a month or so and allowed you to download all the movies, music, and everything else you wanted at good prices, then I'd consider actually working with the RIAA directly. And, they'd have to stop poisoning P2P networks and trying to pass all that nasty anti P2P legislation.
Will they ever stop?
Re:Ach! (Score:2, Informative)
Too much stuff at conventions tends to be bootleg copies made in Hong Kong with no contribution to the creators.
Same with ebay. The majority there is the same HK bootlegs you find too often at anime cons.
And what rediculous prices? I can find most stuff LEGIT for under $20/disc. Less for older series even.
And don't forget that most of the US anime companes have exactly NOTHING to do with the RIAA and MPAA, therefore they have nothing to do with their political actions.
Re:Ach! (Score:2)
Best Buy has legitimate anime DVDs for sale at non-SRP prices. You can also buy them online at DVDplanet.com for decent prices. If the prices at conventions are much cheaper than at Best Buy then I would say that that they are most likely bootlegs.
I don't understand what the MPAA and RIAA has to do with anime, because most anime DVDs and anime based soundtracks _aren't_ owned by an
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I like Lain because it mixes internet with with reality, and I could see how it would do well in silicon vally...
My problems with Trigun (Score:4, Insightful)
Oh, and it is going to be dubbed... bleh... not worth spending your time on anyway.
Re:My problems with Trigun (Score:2)
There's no uncertainty, challenge, or opportunity for growth. It's just wish-fullfillment role-playing for young viewers who can't stand up to challenges on their own, and want to emphasize with someone who's always victorious. Anime like Trigun and Ruronin Kenshin are like this. So are US shows like, oh, A-Team and Knight Rider. And any movie starring Jean-Cla
Trigun isn't about a super anime hero (Score:2, Informative)
He can't even live up to his own standards (see Legato.) Which gives it a nice ring.
The gungho guns and their interplay with each other is pretty cool to.
As far as the moral/educational goes. *shrug* Well if you're going to be watching anime based on that critera you'd best go watch Hamtoro.
(If nothing else it'll give you the mess
Re:Trigun isn't about a super anime hero (Score:2)
Lip service. Trigun talks a good line (better than most US shows with the same themes), but doesn't show it in practice.
At least (and this is a very big redeeming quality), the author has the decency to point out that Vash's ideals are stupid. This is primarily accomplished through other characters speaking rationally, and Vash being unable to articulate a response.
(I wonder if this theme will survive into the US version? It was subtle to begin with, and Ameri
Confrontations Not the Point (Score:3, Insightful)
Watching the "We Make Hackers Obsolete" (Score:4, Funny)
Interesting (Score:1)
Isn't that what Dr. Mengle said?
Perfect for CN (Score:5, Insightful)
There's not much that will need to get cut, rither. I can't think of any nudity that will need to be painted over. I'm pretty positive neither Meryl or Milly ever take a trip to the public baths. There's some drinking, but I'm pretty sure CN lets that slide.
They might even be able to air this one on primetime after a while.
Re:Perfect for CN (Score:3, Informative)
Shame on you. That was a HUGE spoiler.
"Will he or won't he?" is supposed to keep viewers guessing until right to the end.
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Like Mr. Sata - err, Hercule - and his "Root Beer" bar, or Tenchi and his "tea"...
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BlackGriffen
Excel (Score:2, Informative)
Besides, since it would likely end up running in English, it presents a bit of a problem. While Kotono Mitsuishi's Excel is simply excellent, Jessica Calvello's performance was quite good. HOWEVER, since she was replaced by Larissa Wolcott (I believe by the 5th
the sound of otaku groaning (Score:1)
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You mean the sound of elitist artsy otaku groaning (Score:2, Interesting)
And before you relaliate with some snarky comment about possible DBZ fandom on my part (which is untrue), let me say that I also appreciate some of the less well known gems of anime. Grave of the Fireflies and Azumanga Daioh come to mind.
Offtopic, but I think Grave of the Fireflies should be required viewing in high school history cl
Re:the sound of otaku groaning (Score:2, Interesting)
Odd... they imported Dragonball / Dragonball Z, each of which have far more than 26 episodes--and they show them in order.
Continuity is N
Re:the sound of otaku groaning (Score:2)
Let me put it this way. You could count the number of series that go longer than 26 episodes on both hands, and almost all of them are for young children. Not all anime is continuity dependent - just most of the good stuff. It's one of the reasons people like anime. I appreciate the fact that these shows are made for people who have an attention span longer than an hour.
What CN needs to do is bring more series over, and not rerun them so m
Voice Actors and culture (Score:5, Insightful)
Why is it when these great shows come here, they try to do a quick voiceover, and just get it out. I've been fansubbing for a long time now, and I cringe when I hear dubbed anime. There are very few shows that I've seen that I can even think of watching in english. Ranma 1/2 for one, wasn't terribly bad, but I don't have a clue who the english voice actors are.
I guess I want to know why such a great form of entertainment, and a job thats so honored where the entertainment comes from, gets the back burner here. Is it because they're trying to gear it for children and they feel that children don't need the emotion or force that normally becomes the character, or is it just that they want to save money and time by hiring someone off the street to quickly say the lines and send it to production?
What do you think?
Hayashibara-san... (Score:5, Insightful)
My favorite Hayashibara performance is Nuku Nuku. She conveys the sense of both a cute and cuddly character and her inner strength. Nuku Nuku is at once a kitten and a tiger. If you don't believe me, buy the DVD and listen to the Japanese track with English subtitles. Second favorite performance would be the otherworldly Ayanami Rei from Shin Seiki Evangelion. Least favorite would be Faye Valentine from Cowboy Bebop...Megumi-san can't do hard-boiled. Faye has to be both tough and world-weary. It's just not her forte.
The problem with the whole craft of voice acting in America is that radio drama is almost completely dead here. That's the source of people like Blanc, Butler, Foray and Stan Freberg. If, as some have suggested, the lost art of radio drama could be revived using the Internet as a low cost means of distribution, texts from places like Project Gutenberg as a potential source of material, and open source audio software as a means of production, maybe there is hope for the future of radio drama.
Re:Voice Actors and culture (Score:3, Insightful)
I think the production values have gone up and they've started hiring professional (if not especially well-known) actors, who've received voice training. At least, newer series such as Cowboy Bebop or Tenchi Muyo have far better voice acting than say, Bubblegum Crisis.
Re:Voice Actors and culture (Score:2)
Oh, that's an easy one to answer, and it has everything to do with what US culture thinks of cartooning. And what does US culture equate cartoons too? Kids. Most kids don't think, they want. Thay have short attention spans. They like things like Barney. The last things most kids could care about is the vocal talent employed. And that's exactly the amount of effort that gets put into most US animation. Why bot
Re:Voice Actors and culture (Score:2)
Cowboy Bebop. I've been watching subbed (and unsubbed) anime for years, and I speak enough Japanese to find my way around Tokyo without a map. I can't tell Spike and Jet apart in the Japanese dub, and I don't like Hayashibara's Faye either. The English dub is excellent: well-synched, well-articulated, and I just like the people they used. It's so good in fact that I have the feeling the voice actors actually did a charac
Go Go Speed Racer (Score:1)
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Aw, forget it... fucking troll.
Excellent (Score:5, Interesting)
overexagerated expressions and childish antics. I was way wrong. I watched the entire series in two nights (I watched about 17 or 18 episodes on the second night alone.) This series totally engrossed my attention. (The dub is excellent!)
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I'd hardly think so. The entire storyline is contained in just 2 episodes. (the flashback episode, one half of the conclusion, and any random 15 minutes from anyplace else in the series).
"I'm bad! Before you can fight me, you must get through my 10+ exotically named and costumed warriors! Only then can the arch-rivals do battle!"
Compare to something like Escaflowne or even 1 single episode of Cowboy Bebop, and Trigun has virtually no story. Why, even Evangelion had more of a
My favorite Trigun moment.... (Score:2)
I'm really excited to see CN bring Trigun on board, but I wish they'd do something for anime like what they did for the older cartoons on Boomerang. Just devote a whole freakin subcription channel to anime only. I'd sure as hell pay for it.
Re:My favorite Trigun moment.... (Score:2)
"It gets a little crazy by the end" (Score:2)
Am I the only one who doesn't like Trigun? (Score:2)
who gets the axe? (Score:2, Interesting)
Excel Saga is "Problematic" (Score:2)
- PC Alert: Pedro. Although I'm not terribly conerned about being politically correct, some of the jokes around him were definately flat and sometimes made me squirm. Making fun of a Latin American immigrant worker subject to the random bad luck just doesn't work so well in the US.
- Major portion of the fun around Excel Saga is the fact it pokes fun at Anime and
Screw Trigun. Family Guy is on the way (Score:2)
One word..... (Score:2, Interesting)
For the love of pete! Not CN again!!
They ALWAYS butcher things up.
Not to mention I don't like to watch ANYTHING dubbed other than the original language (at least in english anyways; I can deal with American movies dubbed in other languages....). Why can't they use the SAP mode to air both english (for those loonies) and Japanese (true anime connoisseurs) and subtitles in the closed-captioning block of it? Of course, like all things out of our control;
Dubbed vs Subbed (Score:4, Informative)
I used to prefer subtitles because the dubbed versions always sounded like cheezy crap, but I think now it's getting a bit better. Part of me still prefers subtitles, though, since you can hear what the original actors were trying to emote.
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-Tom
Oh dear God no (Score:4, Interesting)
Even if they do this on Adult Swim only, it's going to get butchered. Admittedly, Love Hina would get it even worse, but still, Trigun's going to go through the freaking shredder.
Most anime just plain shouldn't be shown on TV at this point in time. Not until the culture is ready to take it uncut, or at least with minimal editing (I don't count dubbing as "editing" so much as necessity, given that relatively few people would be willing to watch this stuff subbed on TV). And that, I fear, isn't going to be for a long time.
Excel Saga == Bad idea (Score:2, Interesting)
What would be left of Excel Saga after the censors got to it? Apparently the last episode is so bad we're not even going to watch it at the more formal meeting of the Anime Club I go to. They would have to take out a whole character for sure. And several of the subplots throughout the series wouldn't be "fit" for the US audience.
Also, in my opinion its not really a very good series. Its feels kind of recycled after a while. We're on episode 22 or 23 and the last good episode we watched was the one with th
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You mean sort of like the parents who buy their kids grand theft auto, because they just have no fucking clue... these parents are the ones who make me wonder if parenthood training and licensing would be worth it.
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And even that is aimed at young adults.
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Decided to watch CN again. Apperently they can't show the word beer either, so they made it root beer. How annoying. Want to know something funny though, I've read maybe three Learn-to-Speak-Japanese books, and the word bee
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Re:Is that bit about Excel Saga flame bait? (Score:2)
Trigun mpg's mirror (Score:2)
Re:Translation (Score:4, Insightful)
Sure, I know a few really socially-inept anime fans, and saw a frightening amount of fat guys dressed as sailor moon at the last convention, but that was more than off-set by the cute 20-year-old girls in schoolgirl outfits or skimpy sci-fi uniforms and bright pink hair. Most of the anime fans I've met are pretty cool people overall, and don't typify the stereotype at all.
Also, as an aside, I think posting on slashdot automatically takes away a person's right to deride others about not having a social life. Maybe I should just leave you to your attempts to feel better about yourself.
Re:Translation (Score:2)
Actually I wasn't all here mentally when I posted that comment, so I apologize if I offended anyone. However, please take a look again at the article, and think from the point of view of someone who couldn't give a rat's ass about anime. It just sounds really silly. Here's a different translation that's not as offensive: "Great, a cartoon is coming, and let me expound upon my knowledge of some even more obscure related cartoons so that I sound cool to other people into this fad". It's not really news fo
Re:Who cares? (Score:2)
Hell I'd rather watch trolls fuck than watch anime..
Good luck finding that event recorded anywhere. If they were getting laid with any kind of frequency do you think they'd spend so much time posting their strike-a-pose street theater to /.?