Sony to Publish Aibo Specifications 108
teambpsi writes: "According to this CNN news report... 'In addition to the new hardware, the company has also begun publishing details of Aibo's system architecture on the Internet in an attempt to get developers to work on independent software for Aibo and generate more interest in the products.' This from the same company that used the DMCA as reported here on slashdot last fall to shutdown one fan/hack site."
Some smart people at Sony. (Score:3, Interesting)
Now if they had a program where by developers got cheaper units, in return for producing code...... that would catch like wild fire, for the shear coolness factor
I'm going to be a Grammar Nazi today (Score:1)
From Merriam-Webster OnLine: Main Entry: 1 shear Pronunciation: 'shir Function: verb Inflected Form(s): sheared; sheared or shorn /'shOrn, 'shorn/; shearing
Etymology: Middle English sheren, from Old English scieran; akin to Old Norse skera to cut, Latin curtus shortened, Greek keirein to cut, shear, Sanskrit krnAti he injures
Date: before 12th century
transitive senses
1 a : to cut off the hair from b : to cut or clip (as hair or wool) from someone or something; also : to cut something from c chiefly Scottish : to reap with a sickle d : to cut or trim with shears or a similar instrument
2 : to cut with something sharp
3 : to deprive of something as if by cutting
4 a : to subject to a shear force b : to cause (as a rock mass) to move along the plane of contact
intransitive senses
1 : to cut through something with or as if with a sharp instrument
2 chiefly Scottish : to reap crops with a sickle
3 : to become divided under the action of a shear (the bolt may shear off)
Main Entry: 3 sheer Function: adjective Etymology: Middle English schere freed from guilt, probably alteration of skere, from Old Norse skærr pure; akin to Old English scInan to shine Date: circa 1568 1 obsolete : BRIGHT, SHINING 2 : of very thin or transparent texture : DIAPHANOUS 3 a : UNQUALIFIED, UTTER (sheer folly) (sheer ignorance) b : being free from an adulterant : PURE, UNMIXED c : viewed or acting in dissociation from all else 4 : marked by great and continuous steepness synonym see STEEP - sheerly adverb - sheerness noun
Hence, it would be the sheer coolness factor :-)
Re:I'm going to be a Grammar Nazi today (Score:1)
Re:I'm going to be a Grammar Nazi today (Score:1)
Re:I'm going to be a Grammar Nazi today (Score:1)
'your' (possessive context), incorrectly used for
'you're' (you are; a contraction). So much for throwing stones while living in a glass house, Eh?!
Canucks do it for beer, Eh?!
Re:I'm going to be a Grammar Nazi today (Score:1)
Graham
DMCA (Score:1, Insightful)
Yeah, and they should be applauded for being Reformed Assholes. Instead, every article about them on every tech site includes a little disclaimer like this after it, much like the ones that follow Current Assholes like Senator Hollings ("This is the man that supposed --insert evil bill here--") or any of the other Slashdot enemies of the week.
We should be patting them on the back for reforming themselves, rather than pointing out their past failures every time they pop up in the news. We're not going to get anywhere with these companies if we push and push against them, but then keep pushing once they come over to our side.
reformed????? (Score:5, Insightful)
How do we know that they won't try to shut down someone doing something that they don't expect or like later?
Fool me once, shame on you....Fool me twice, shame on me.
Re:reformed????? (Score:2, Insightful)
That makes no difference. What you need to understand is that the corporate interest is in maximum profit, while the consumer interest is in having the best product most cheaply. These are not fundamentally incompatible, but are also not necessarily compatible. If there's something you want a corporation to do (clean up oil slick, open source code, etc), show them how it is in their interest to do so.
How do we know that they won't try to shut down someone doing something that they don't expect or like later?
By assuming they will. Specifically, this means you should go download a copy of whatever Sony publishes, and keep it around in case they change their minds and yank it from their website.
Sony, or any other large corporation, is not a single entity. Managers and policies change all the time. Get used to it.
Re:reformed????? (Score:1)
Yeah we don't know that they won't see something they don't like and attempt to shut it down and if they do then yeah I'd think they deserved all the scorn in the world; but for know I think they at least deserve the benefit of the doubt.
Re:reformed????? (Score:2, Insightful)
Let's stop pretending that patting them on the back or ranking on them is actually going to make a difference. What do you think? That they come here and when they see our applause, they'll feel good inside and continue to do nice things? Like you said, they're profit driven corporations and our benefit of the doubt is not going to make a whit of a difference. Get with it.
Re:reformed????? (Score:1)
Re:reformed????? (Score:1)
When they stop crashing computers playing CDs... (Score:2)
Re:DMCA (Score:1)
It may be to early to tell what all the ramifications of this are, but you bring up a good point.
There does seem to be a certain tendency to forget that things like this are often just education issues... that the company is temporarily without clue since they were new to this particular scene. Instead, it's treated more like a deal with the Devil... once you sell your soul, that's it, it's gone! That may be a function of the kind of "30-second hate" stuff that goes around thile the company is still wearing a black hat. Sometimes folks get so worked up that they forget what the purpose of the criticism was in the first place. Look at the way some folks continued to go on about KDE after the QT license was changed... that they were "tainted" by a history of nonfreeness, etc., etc.
There's little incentive for companies to turn the black hat in for a white one if you are going to continue to boycott/villify them even after the switch.
The Celine Dion CD. Fuck me. (Score:3, Funny)
Bit of a repeat... (Score:5, Informative)
Teach An Old Aibo New Tricks [slashdot.org]
Re:Bit of a repeat... (Score:2)
Or maybe the fall season has ended at Slashdot and we're into reruns....
Re:Bit of a repeat... (Score:2)
Aibo Virus (Score:5, Funny)
1) Direct Aibo to pick up its things (manuals, charger, etc)
2) Walk Aibo from owners house to my house carrying its things.
3) Take picture of itself and post a listing on ebay.
4) Wait for auction ending and payment.
5) Walk to new owners house.
6) Repeat.
Re:Aibo Virus (Score:1)
Re:Aibo Virus (Score:1)
Re:Aibo Virus (Score:1)
Re:Aibo Virus (Score:1)
0) take nude pictures of owner and mail back to me
Re:Aibo Virus (Score:1)
1) Direct Aibo to pick up cash, jewelry, etc...
Not making money on the software (Score:4, Interesting)
If you're looking for Sony's motivation in opening the specifications, I believe it's here. In the absence of additional software sales, Sony sees opening the platform as a method for selling additional hardware.
With the new approach, you can sure bet that Sony is going to put off the price drops that had been part of the plan for the second generation Aibos for some time. There's good money to be had in finding a new audience at the current pricing before Sony tries to earn new customers with a price break.
how often have we seen this mistake? (Score:1)
Re:Not making money on the software (Score:2)
If only the Computer hardware makers would see this exact same point as well... we'd see the last of Windows, well for a while at least.
Other than as a toy does it have an actual use? (Score:2)
Re:Other than as a toy does it have an actual use? (Score:3, Funny)
- sample some large dog (presa canario, ouch, sorry about that) barking and turn it into a real nasty sounding guard dog.
- get it to fetch your newspaper (you have to train it to go outside and look for the thing and then pick it up and return), that should be an interesting project.
- attach a gps unit to it and have it give you directions while driving (two woofs means left turn ahead, three mean right).
- teach it to go into CompUSA, attach itself to a PowerMac, and download software.
- and finally, two words, beowolf cluster!
Re:Other than as a toy does it have an actual use? (Score:1, Offtopic)
Or even a beowoof cluster?
Re:Other than as a toy does it have an actual use? (Score:2)
Didn't you see? It is going to have Bluetooth connectivity and with all the new Macs including Bluetooth soon... no need to attach. Just send the little bugger in there and get it within like 15 ft. and you're set.
Re:Other than as a toy does it have an actual use? (Score:2)
Re:Other than as a toy does it have an actual use? (Score:1)
finally... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:finally... (Score:3, Funny)
Give 'em another chance :) (Score:4, Funny)
I wouldn't critisize them for taking a turn for the better. On the other hand, how many chances should mega-corps get.
I like sony engineers -- don't like their lawyers (Score:1)
devices -- it's a real shame that the company's
official position is that the vaio is for windows
only. It runs linux really well. But don't call
Sony and tell them -- they will be annoyed.
Re:I like sony engineers -- don't like their lawye (Score:1, Troll)
If the world was run by engineers, I'd think we'd be a lot more advanced than where we are now. Just as a single example, OIL! Science has proven that there are more efficient alternative energy that are out there than OIL. But the big oil companies don't want to see this happen.
Re:I like sony engineers -- don't like their lawye (Score:1)
Re:What's more efficient than oil? (Score:1)
Alchahol can be aquired by fermenting almost any plant matter. People could not only grow stuff you but also make fuel from grass clippings etc. All that needs to be done is stock it in gas stations.
Re:I like sony engineers -- don't like their lawye (Score:2)
Re:I like sony engineers -- don't like their lawye (Score:1)
how about making it cheap? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:how about making it cheap? (Score:2, Interesting)
Heard at Sony.... (Score:4, Funny)
"Lousy. People finally figured out that paying thousands of dollars for a toy dog that doesn't do very much is a losing proposition."
"Hmm.. How can we create buzz and get people with too much money to buy it again?"
"I KNOW! We'll open-source it!"
Economics of double standard (Score:3, Interesting)
When a powerful company such as Sony feels that a grass root movement will cut into their profit, they automatically take legal actions against them. Yet in the same token, because they are all-so powerful, they can just turn the other cheek and for those who has suffered from the legal battles, now they are asked to come back and help them to raise interests in a product that they originally were discouraged from using?
I think this could be described by the lyrics of Naughty by Nature: Everything gonna be alright:
Drop that, and now you want me to rap and give?
Say somethin' positive? Well positive isn't where I lived
I say eat this Sony! I'd like to see some form of apology!!!
maybe... (Score:1)
gAibo? (Score:1)
teach it to do the robot? (Score:1, Funny)
Re:teach it to do the robot? (Score:1)
Google Voice Search (Score:1, Offtopic)
Re:way off topic (Score:1)
Re:Google Voice Search (Score:1)
possibilities... (Score:1, Funny)
could be fun (Score:1)
Windows Aibo? (Score:1)
Re:Sony is a Dangerous Company (Score:1)
just a thought.
Sony STILL != Open (Score:2)
Anyone interested in an open, co-operative robotics platform please see that post instead.
Don't forget Sony's Music Division (Score:3, Interesting)
Just because Sony is swinging one way in regards to their doggie, who's specs were already freely available through reverse engineering, doesn't mean you should sway your opinion of them and think that they are a changed company. Sony is a VERY dangerous company... Possibly fourth behind Microsoft, AOL-Timewarner, and the Bells.
A little of this, a little of that... (Score:1)
Just like the same company that produced his car is guilty of ozone layer depletion? Not that I care, but it serves as a useful lesson in hypocrisy.
Secret keys in Aibo (Score:2, Funny)
Tip its left ears, clap left left right right up up up up down up down down down - THERE YOU GET A SUPER-AIBO WITH A STRANGE SYMBOL ON ITS BACK!!!!
I wonder why... (Score:2, Insightful)
Apply the schoolyard metric: (Score:1, Offtopic)
You're in the third grade, and you go up to a big fifth grade kid and ask to play with him. He kicks the legs out from under you, then stamps on your head for a while. All of a sudden, for no apparent reason, he stops, says "Gee, I'm soooo sorrrrry," and offers you his hand.
You'd take it, right? Right? Hmmm. Perhaps not.
Open-R is out now (Score:1)
development kit just a few hours after they
apparently set it up.
https://www.jp.aibo.com/openr/
Already 12 postings in their English BBS.
Re:Where are the sex pictures of Aibo? (Score:1)
It's called the Vibe-inu (Score:2)
New imporved Post-- Now with working linnk (Score:1)
(should have previewed that last post. sorry)