EU Ministers Approve ".eu" Top-Level Domain 112
Kooki Monster writes: "The Council of Ministers unanimously approved on Wednesday the European Commission's proposition to create a ".eu" domain name. European institutions as well as private users and corporations should benefit from the new domain, as it is expected to improve the Internet's image and commercial infrastructure in Europe. Its organisation will be managed either by a non-profit institution, a private company, or an existing public administration." Note the reference to "rules recommended by the World Organisation for Intellectual Property" -- probably no hope of squatting in dot-eu.
I think you left out "cloistered nuns" however. (Score:3)
One of the better non-statements I've seen here on Slashdot.
about the_f_word time! (Score:2)
what is the -bleep- point of the TLDs anyways? why can't we have -really_bad_word- arbitrary TLDs? because... then all the -dont_call_them_that- companies who paid lots of money for their bank.com domains look even -filthy_word- than today? or because horrible people will register
fuck you, lameness filter!
Commerce? (Score:2)
"spare the lachrymosity when the fulminations have inveighed"
Bound to be popular in Portugal... (Score:1)
My Own TLD (Score:1)
Euros in .eu (Score:1)
Re:all domains are com wanna bees (Score:1)
Re:sounds great (Score:1)
We definitely need more TLDs. (Score:2)
Imagine:
Re:Misguided... (Score:3)
It has been a little over a year ago since registrar competition was introduced. But it is much too late to fix this system. The whole thing should be scrapped and new domains should be given out much like vanity license plates -- you can't sell yours to another: if you don't want it or use it, it goes back to the state to be reused. And NSI should have nothing to do with it.
Re:Do we really need another TLD ? (Score:3)
Re:Do we really need another TLD ? (Score:2)
In fact, to keep things more intuitive and descriptive, one would need to do:
something.uk.eu, giving rise to unneeded extraneous data '.eu'.
It's nice though... but that's what apeals to politicians.
:)
The DNS *really* needs to be reorganised! (Score:5)
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The DNS is not being used appropriately.
It's a heirarchical system that has been abused by the registrars to the point where it's effectively a flat naming system; *.com.
End users should not have access to domains above 3rd or 4th level. First, second and maybe even the third level domains should be reserved exclusively for domain administration purposes. Think of it as a filing system. Would you allow users to randomly create directories off root or /usr or even /home? No. You administer that heirarchy and create areas where users can create and access information.
The DNS needs to be re-organised or even just organised. ICANN and the registrars should design the heirarchy rather than completely abdicating responsibility and allowing chaos to ensue.
A properly designed heirarchy would allow everyone to have their place without all this domain squatting and trademark infringement bullshit.
The new TLDs and the .eu TLD will simply cause more chaos. They will not solve anything. Do you really think that the IBMs, Microsofts and Apples of this world will not simply register their name in every existing TLD? They can and will.
Re:Yet another braindead decision... (Score:2)
Objection to .eu TLD (Score:2)
The EU is not a country. EU is not in ISO 3166. Indeed, EU could never be put in ISO 3166 under the current rules [www.din.de].
If the EU was able to get a country code despite not being a country, it could potentially set a precedent which would allow the creation of a very large number of new TLDs "by the back door".
Re:Yet another braindead decision... (Score:1)
My feelings are the same. While I feel that we must be in the EU at the moment and that ultimately, there will be Europe (and maybe one day global) wide unification, I think that the current administration is leading us on a road to hell, increasing hatred and mistrust between its member nations rather than promoting harmony and unity. The way I see it, there's going to be a lot of bloodshed and the administration wil collapse into the rubble and then hopefully, a truly collaborative partnership can be realised which doesn't incorporate all the corruption, backstabbing and politicking that the body which is the current EU stands for.
Rich
Re:If only Telstra was so "Nationalistic" (Score:1)
They see
Personally I love to see the
Re:Objection to .eu TLD (Score:2)
The name European Union is not officially listed in ISO 3166-1 because the standard contains codes of names of countries and not names of groupings of countries or names of organizations.
However, the ISO 3166 Maintenance Agency advises all users of the ISO 3166-1 Alpha-2 code to apply the code element EU if they need to represent the name European Union.
ICANN is just a user of ISO 3166 and can decide to use the EU code.
Benno
Re:Misguided... (Score:1)
They're american tlds, which we let you use. You have the option of using your country code, whereas in the US that's a more difficult process.
Of course, you don't WANT to use your country code, due to a combination of being too lazy and wanting to ride on the prestige of the US naming convention. The same combination of laziness and sheep-like following of American ideas that resulted in us inventing all of this instead of you, ironically.
Re:Trolling has changed alot (Score:1)
I would suggest, if anyone would listen, that you propose changing the lameness filter to apply only to anonymous posts. That way OOG_THE_CAVEMAN could continue to provide us with his insightful comments here at slashdot.
Censorship is bad enough when applied by people. But when it is applied with machines it is just plain bad ... IT'S LIKE 1984 MAN!
sort of
This is why we need to *design* the DNS heirarchy. (Score:1)
A flat
Re:Weird top level domain (Score:1)
This is the same as the US and the most commonly known TLD's. The US came up with the whole idea in the first place....
Re:Misguided... (US domain names rule) (Score:1)
Not bad. I'm paying $10 a year for my nice TLD. OpenSRS [opensrs.org] rocks!
I think the only conclusion that can be made is that the whole naming system is totally screwed and there really isn't any way to fix it. Everyone wants IPv6 and that will take years (if not decades) to complete. Not everyone will want a new naming system (in fact quite a few people won't): you think that anyone will be able to fix it anytime this century?
What of the most SECRET tld: .INT (Score:1)
Don't believe me? Check out their registrar site http://www.nic.int/ [nic.int]
That's right. Even the root page on the registrars web site requires a mysterious password. And cypherpunks/cypherpunks does not work.
I guess they think they're 5UP3R 31337, eh?
Waaaaaah! (Score:2)
Think of it like techno stamp collecting.
But if some country I haven't received hits from only has sites in the .eu domain there won't likely be a way to figure this out (although I think I have all of Europe at this point).
Re:sounds great (Score:1)
And it's less filling!
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If only Telstra was so "Nationalistic" (Score:1)
Re:Idea for domain (Score:2)
you.to (Score:2)
Squatting in.eu (Score:2)
Do a search on 'ICANN'. Sorry for not including the final link, but they use frames.
The french must be pissed off !!! (Score:1)
Re:Weird top level domain (Score:1)
*.co.us: new namespace waiting to be opened (Score:2)
Re:all domains are com wanna bees (Score:1)
The codes IANA uses are two-letter codes from the ISO 3166 standard. IANA is not in the business of deciding what is and what is not a country, nor what code letters are appropriate for a particular country.
On the contrary... .com IS a country (Score:1)
"In money we trust".
"You can't make 'unfounded' accusations against a company. If we say you did it, you must present evidence as to otherwise yourself. You're considered guilty until proven not to."
'Work of an employee is company's property (as is the employee btw.)
etc...
Do we really need another TLD ? (Score:5)
When Tuvalu sold off .tv , one of my bosses asked for us to get a domain in that space (id.tv), where it matched one of our trademarks (idtv, a local digital television service).
We were told: auction, starting at us$10k. Sorry, no. Not interested.
Adding a TLD is a good money-spinner, but it doesn't make much sense: getting the existing space re-organised (yes, I know, painful idea) would be so much more beneficial IMHO
Re:Weird top level domain (Score:1)
Boy now weren't most of those international domains? For your info, the US top domain is.... (drumroll please) .us! The fact that almost noone uses it makes .com a US domain just as much as the fact that .se is hardly used by swedish companies makes .com a swedish domain.
Re:Misguided... (Score:1)
The company I am working with uses the messy fix of .com for the US sites and .one.com for European sites.
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Re:Misguided... (Score:1)
Re:Weird top level domain (Score:1)
US domains?????????? I don't think so
Jeroen
Re:Trolling has changed alot (Score:2)
Re:ack! (Score:1)
All well and good and I believe this was recently considered at the secret illuminati meeting for which the recent WTO conference in Seattle was just a cover. It was rejected on the grounds of the confusion and cost to corporations that would ensue. However, a functionally equivalent alternative was decided on.
Welcome to the planet "com"
Rich
Re:Misguided... (Score:1)
Exactly. They're more like street addresses. True, a few companies can manage "Canda House" or even (as here in Basingstoke) "Wella Rd" but generally, most will have to settle for "29 Generic St" or suchlike. If you want to find a company, you go to a directory. Problem is, there is no standard directory on the web (Yahoo comes close) and for actually finding things, search engines are somewhat hit or miss. I don't have any answers but some kind of non-hierarchical, distributed system is needed but with the way browsers work, it would mean rewriting gethostbyname for every OS out there.
Rich
We made it at last. (Score:1)
Re:Misguided... (US domain names rule) (Score:2)
Were it not for those profiteering bastards at NSI, people would have used the .US domain, and we wouldn't have this whole damn domain name squatting controversy. Say I owned a store with a terribly cliched name -- let's make it the "New Leaf Bookstore." And we'll say I'm in Olympia, Washington. I'm www.newleaf.olympia.wa.us. Say there's a totally unrelated New Leaf bookstore in Tacoma. They're www.newleaf.tacoma.wa.us. How hard is that? You gotta remember a city instead of a com, org, or net. Then apply the related state and dot-us. That would SEVERELY cut down on the quibbling. Sure, there would still be a problem between me and the guy who owns the new leaf health store in Olympia, but that's a hell of a lot less of a problem than every New Leaf bookstore, health store, grain refinery and horticulture joint fighting over newleaf.com (out of curiosity, I looked it up -- turns out to be a "community market").
Remember fraud and misrepresentation laws still apply -- someone couldn't register newleaf.lubbock.tx.us and claim to be me. More over, squatting wouldn't be profitable because A) lubbock obviously isn't me and B) They'd have to buy thousands of domain names, not just three.
Moreover, the entire co-op way the US domain is put together should appeal to the hacker ethic -- there's no giant corporation holding all the strings, each region (i.e. olympia) is done by someone in the community who elected to do it. Like I said, I paid a one-time ten buck fee, but I'm in LA (california) -- lots of regions don't charge a dime. The workload is distributed.
But no, big money prevailed over reason, prices were inflated and service dissipated.
I urge you all to at least LOOK at the .us system and understand its beauty before you run off and buy a shiny new dot-com. Pisses me off when sites bounce my email address as "not a valid email address" 'cos the dumbass site admin has never heard of .us.
Whew! Bitterness vented. I thank you.
Re:Yet another braindead decision... (Score:1)
Yeah, those damn Dutch! Oh! you mean the English.
Yes, Prime Minister put it something like this:
"The Germans love it, the French ignore it, the Spanish and Italians are too chaotic to enforce it" (This isn't an exact quote. They managed to include all the European countries)
Re:Objection to .eu TLD (Score:2)
AFAIK, some European regions have also asked for a TLD. Why not? And who really cares!
Re:Weird top level domain (Score:2)
There shouldn't be any; .nato was a TLD formed on the whim of one Mark Pullen at DARPA, before nato.int was sorted out. No subdomains were allocated and it should have died out by now.
http://www.netplanet.org/i-files/file 001.html [netplanet.org] (German)
Here's hoping the .eu registers enforce some kind of rule to stop all the domains being instantly sold to the foul parasitic domain brokers that have so royally fucked up the existing namespace, charging stupid prices for what was once a public good.
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Re:Objection to .eu TLD (Score:1)
As a moderation abuser (Score:1)
Problem: Too many moderators with too many points.
It's far too easy to become a moderator at the moment.
Re:Yet another braindead decision...(OT) (Score:1)
shouldn't that be Britain ? Besides, sterling is not currently overvalued, check it;s value against the dollar or the yen and it's fine - it's only overvalued against the euro because the euro is going down faster than an intern on bill clinton. That said it seems to have caught itself now so maybe it'll go up again.
rover crisis would not be as dangerous as it is
Personally I don't see the loss of a car manufacturer that has demonstrated over the years a stunning ability to make cars that people don't want and another ability to not make any profit whatsoever as a particularly bad thing.
True, the ecu is underrated at the moment
Underrated ? it's simply a weak currency cause they let any old dodgy economy join and then don't have control over tax rates and cash relief over those economies. Until they reorganise the EU along lines of a single monetary source and single controlling authority it'll never work - and that'll be a long time in coming because of the nationalistic aspects to iron out.
J
Re:Misguided... (Score:1)
Re:Isn't this ICANN's or IANA's job? (Score:1)
In short the 2 letter domain has to appear in ISO 3166-1 [www.din.de], which is in turn based on the UN Statistical servises lists. eu does not appear as a 'country or teritory' in either.
Have a look at their report on asigning the .pl [icann.org] TLD to Palestine
ack! (Score:3)
Idea for domain (Score:5)
sounds great (Score:4)
would .com be so popular if it didn't sound like it does?
Why have country codes on the Internet? (Score:2)
But imagine that every US state had its own TLD with no common TLD; then you'd have www.microsoft.wa, www.redhat.nc (or is that www.redhat.sc?), www.nytimes.ny, and so on. It'd be completely messy -- you would have to remember for every company where it's based, and companies based in several states would have to settle on one TLD as the primary one.
That's how it is in Europe: It a common market, so it's becoming increasingly irrelevant where a company or organisation is based, and very often there simply is no good choice -- hence the European Union has to use .eu.int, and most companies prefer .com domains.
For large monolithic states like the USA, India, the European Union, or China, country codes may make some sense, but I really think that it would be better to abolish this country-based system.
If you really want to distinguish between geographic entities, it can easily be done as e.g. eu.redhat.com vs. us.redhat.com or eu.parl.gov vs. us.parl.gov vs. zh.parl.gov.
Katz??? (Score:1)
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So something.uk will exist, whereas you could also have something.eu for more international needs.
Re:Not such a braindead decision... (Score:1)
The Euro is a new, single currency, that effectively replaced this old non-currency, so a new name was needed.
So, by pushing the name ECU in the first place for the old "currency", they actually lost it when the Euro replaced it.
Misguided... (Score:2)
I guess they could prevent it in the EU TLD by imposing crazy rules to actually register a domain, like here in Hong Kong, myself as an individial, I can't even register a domain,
I thinking the same thing is going to happen with this EU TLD from the looks of it. Maybe the EU TLD will be 'cleaner' in the sense that so many people won't squat in it, but by no stretch of the imagination is it going to improve the situation with the worldwide TLDs (and yes, they are WORLDWIDE, NOT AMERICAN TLDs...which so many people seem confuse them for).
Trolling has changed alot (Score:1)
Re:Misguided... (Score:1)
Re:Idea for domain (Score:1)
Can I register microsoft.eu ? (Score:1)
It's not like anyone's using it, after all.
Re:The DNS *really* needs to be reorganised! (Score:1)
They can, and they will, and they are expected to... What solve is it you are looking for? The solve they intend, and will probably achieve is for the dumb end user who can't figure out what to type at the end of a name, the hope was it would become easier for him, since all he has to remember is that he lieves in the EU and that his internet address ends with EU - simple for him...if they register their names.
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Re:you forgot a couple of important points... (Score:2)
j.
Isn't this ICANN's or IANA's job? (Score:2)
I don't mean to be a troll but isn't this up to ICANN (The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers) [icann.org]?
To quote their about page [icann.org]:
I'm all for people/countries agreeing (including the EU folks) but as I understand it without ICANN [icann.org] or maybe IANA [iana.org] playing along, this doesn't mean much.
Yes, I'm aware that the article says:
but that says nothing about ICANN [icann.org] supporting this decision. It just says they are going to uses the guidelines that ICANN [icann.org] reccomend.I don't mean to piss anyone off but as I understand it, the internet is still largely American due to it's roots in ARPA and that most "authorities" on the internet are American.
Citrix
Re:Misguided... (Score:1)
Re:ack! (Score:1)
Yeah.. but that already exists:
Re:Idea for domain (Score:1)
Somebody has their panties in a twist. I believe the original poster was making light of the phonetic resemblance of "eu" to "you", especially in certain accents.
Re:Misguided... (Score:1)
I hear it is only possible to register
Re:Objection to .eu TLD (Score:2)
It's really quite simple. There are two ways a new domain can be added. Either because it's a generic TLD open to anyone (which EU wouldn't be) or because it's an ISO-3166 country code which hasn't been delegated. Which EU isn't.
The point is that under the current rules there is no avenue by which .eu could be delegated.
Re:sounds great (Score:1)
"If I removed everything here that I thought was pointless, there would be like two messages here."
Re:Weird top level domain (Score:2)
Boy now weren't most of those international domains?
Interesting question. From back in the day, I thought that they were all US only. (And it's pretty believable that the US would have an ego like that, isn't it?) But RFC1591 [isi.edu] and IANA [iana.org] seem to agree with you. .com, .org, and .net are all intented to be international in nature.
To save you a click, IANA says:
But you can find plenty [thrall.org] of [njit.edu] people [njit.edu] that state or imply that .com is for US commercial interests, so I don't feel too bad for being confused.
Oh well. I'm going to try to get myself registered as a .int [iana.org] just for the hell of it.
linux.eu (Score:2)
Re:ack! (Score:1)
Well, I guess you learn something new every day.
-jcl
Top Level Bureaucracy (Score:1)
ICANN doesn't necessarily allocate TLDs only by country. Many territories of countries get one too: step forward Jersey, Guernsey, CoCos Islands, etc.
ICANN, who say they are not in the business of determining what is or is not a country, gets its two-letter TLD names from the INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS ORGANIZATION 3166 group.
They have agreed that Europe gets its own TLD. ICANN merely has to ratify it. http://www.din.de/gremien/nas/nabd/iso3166ma/new02 _00.html
Eu != Europe (Score:1)
What ccTLD would you suggest for the EU parliament?
Re:Objection to .eu TLD (Score:1)
It is true that the EU is not a country, but if I remember correctly, ISO 3166 lists 'territories', not 'countries'. One of the articles on the cited page says that:
Looks to me like they are still making up their minds... :-)
This quasi-country-code issue also features in the choice of EUR as the three-letter abbreviation for the euro. The currency TLAs are usually formed from a territory code plus a letter (so 'pounds sterling' is abbreviated 'GBP'). It follows that 'EUR' also implies a territory called 'EU'.
Re:Weird top level domain (Score:1)
Yep, not surprising since USofAers are unlikely to visit non-US
Re:Objection to .eu TLD (Score:1)
You are mostly right about EU not being a country at all. It's only a union of independent countries. But those states are willing to create tight form of co-operation. According to Schengen declaration, you can drive across EU without being stopped at any border, except the outermost one (between EU member and another country). There is free trade (with some exceptions, too). And, not to forget, currency union.
I think EU is moving towards creating "a state of states" with political and economical power. Think about elections in Austria a bit - EU had pushed down the leader of FPO by political and economical attacks to whole Austria. But Austria isn't the topic now.
That's why I think the .eu domain would be good for companies operating across whole Europe (Union).
BTW. What about "Russia"? It isn't one state, it's group of states having one president and a cross-republic parliament... Those states have their own domains. Russia (the most-known state of them) has .ru. The whole group had .su domain, now the .su-NIC is .ru-NIC [ripn.net]. .ru is domain available for every state in Russia (the group of states) and another states have their own (.tj, .tm) plus .ru. Strange, isn't it?
Re:Why have country codes on the Internet? (Score:1)
2) Commerce is not everything, but it is important for European dot-com companies. But anyhow, my arguments apply just as well for organisations, universities etc.
So how useful will this one be? (Score:2)
Nope. Sorry, it won't work.
The trouble here is that all those companies with
The solution is not to set up more and more geographical domains. Consider: The only people who really want those (rather than
The solution is to have type-based domains, rather than locality-based. We already see this with
Re:Eu != Europe (Score:1)
Ah, but not in any simple, "this patch of land here" sort of way. There are "isolated" countries that are members of the EU (ie member countries that do not share a border with any other member countries).
Note that I'm neither for nor against this new TLD. Personally, I think the entire system needs a good rethink and overhaul. However, with the system as it is, it's only really fair enough that the EU gets a TLD of it's own. Otherwise, it would kind of be like each individual US state having a TLD, while the US itself did not.
Cheers,
Tim
Re:Misguided... (Score:1)
No, they're not american TLDs. Where does it say so? .org, for example, was created mainly for non-profit organizations, but not just for the US to use. These TLDs were made generic. If they were just for the US, they would have been like .org.us or something like that.
Remember the name Internet.
Granted, these TLDs were used when the Internet was just a thing in the US, and before the system with two-letter country TLDs became widely used. That doesn't mean that their use still is, or should be, restricted to the US. Quite the contrary. They're country-generic.
You have the option of using your country code, whereas in the US that's a more difficult process. Of course, you don't WANT to use your country code, due to a combination of being too lazy and wanting to ride on the prestige of the US naming convention.
Whooa. Hold your horses. If this is what you believe, I'm really scared. .co.uk. mycompany.co.uk doesn't sound as good as mycompany.com, does it?
First of all, using a country TLD is a really painful process in many countries. Companies in the UK are, for example, forced to use
I'll continue with the Swedish domain name system, as it is the one which I am most familiar with. In my opinion it's one of the mot brain-dead systems too.
Here are the rules:
- Swedish companies and organizations are allowed to register directly under
.se, but only with a domain name that is identical to the officially registered company name. Just one domain name per company, too. If you have a virtually unknown company name, but a product with a famous brand name, you're lost, as you're not allowed to register the brand name. - You're also lost if your small, private company or organization doesn't have a nation-wide registration, as you won't be able to get a domain name directly under
.se. These entities must get a domain name with a one-letter code in, denoting the region. These letters are a-z. So you might have to register your sports club or local LUG under for example ourlug.z.se. Given that this still requires an official local organization registration, and that most Swedish don't even know these local one-letter region codes, this is a really bad idea. Your visitors might not know that your domain is not under .se but under a local region code, and even then, they might not know which one of a-z. - Ordinary people are only allowed to register under
.pp.se. This is the only domain name registration that doesn't require an officially registrered entity with that name. You can register whateveryouwant.pp.se, but of course this .pp.se ending sucks.
Add to this that domain name registrations underSo no, it's not laziness that makes people register under .com. Only big companies in Sweden can get a proper .se domain, and in some situations even the biggest pile of money won't help with these stupid rules.
See why people appreciate .com?
hotmail.com/.de/.at/.ch/... (Score:4)
But the big-ones will just register their name in every
As long as people do not understand, that there is such a thing like www.de.company.com (instead of company.de) or www.company.com/de or www.company.de/product (instead of e.g. www.hp2000.com for HP's 2000-Printer) this just makes no sense....
Re:We definitely need more TLDs. (Score:1)
Re:ack! (Score:1)
Weird top level domain (Score:1)
Everybody knows the big US domains (.com, .org, .net, .edu, .gov). And anybody halfway with it knows about country codes [uci.edu] too. (.de, .uk, etc.)
Additionally, most old timers remember when .mil addresses used to be more common (and often used, too!), and some of use even remember the old .arpa addresses. And the European Union [eu.int] currently has a .int address. But has anybody found a .nato address? In theory, the exist, but the closest I've ever come has been the NATO [nato.int] home page.
Re:all domains are com wanna bees (Score:1)
Tonight in the news (Score:4)
Elsewhere around the globe the United Guatamala Hegemony is going to lobby for the toplevel domain ".ugh", while the Urguay National Federation plans on aquiring ".unf".
Sources close to the Micronesia Open Organization say they would enjoy ".moo" but it looks like they would be turned down as they aren't big enough to aquire it, unlike the Hundouras Organization of Tribbles who want ".hot" and the Guam Rightously Inspired Troll Service who want ".grits".
-- iCEBaLM
Re:Misguided... (Score:1)
I am reminded of 2600s current battle with Verizon. In the May 2nd (I believe)issue of Off The Hook [2600.com] 2600 mentioned Verizon buying up all available TLDs, including misspellings of Verizon along with... get this, VerizonSucks.com. To outdo them, 2600 mentioned "Hey, why don't we register VerizonREALLYsucks.com, it doesn't appear they got that one yet". Apparently they did follow through and register it, within a few days they received a letter demanding the domain rights [2600.com] be handed over, and over-night mail be sent back to Verizon with the required information to transfer the domain.
(For those of you who don't know, Verizon is a recent merger involving Bell Atlantic and various other phone companies)
Needless to say, 2600 is now ensnared in about 5 court cases including this new one. I find it interesting that with SO many legitimate TLDs for a domain, Corporate rights are still maintained over every one. It appears a precedent setting case will be involved with this new threat by Verizon.
Somebody should register VerizonSucks.EU or
My point though is simply that we should really question what the validity of these TLDs really are. I mean, is a phone company really an Organization, a Commerce, a Network, a US, a CA, an EU.... all at the same time? If nobody follows the rules on these TLDs, and corporate America can do what they wish with any of them, why the hell have anything but
If we're going to standardize naming conventions, I think we should require that Everybody follow them. Especially Corporate America, as it has the least right to be on the internet. The internet was certainly not built by "www.Flowers.Org (roses.com)" [flowers.org], and it is certainly not alive because of them.
When I go to hotsex.org I expect an organization of dedicated non-profit sexual professionals. If I wanted to pay, I'd be at the COM site.
Get my drift?
Re:Do we really need another TLD ? (Score:2)
Seriously though, how much longer are they going to keep expanding the current system and making it more and more confusing?
if .com & .net are now basically the same thing (and to a lesser extent .org, /. doesn't create money?) why bother having 3 seperate TLD's anyway?
if .com can be,
- a multinational
- a personal homepage dedicated to navel fluff
- a butcher, a baker, a candlestickmaker...
then what doesjust think it is time for something new, preferably something that works for the numbers involved these days, this is just going to make the eventual transition harder slower, and mean that more people are throwing away cash (not just the reg fee, but advertising etc.) on something that in a few years will be obselete...kinda like buying vinyl a decade ago or CDs/VHS now...
Re:Idea for domain (Score:1)
mistress@fuckyou.co.uk
Re:Yet another braindead decision... (Score:1)
Re:Isn't this ICANN's or IANA's job? (Score:1)
Re:We definitely need more TLDs. (Score:2)
Pronouncing things "Slashdot dot org" or "IBM dot com" just seems awful wordy. It's even worse when you have to say www first too.
I'd much prefer saying "website dot dot." Seems easier to say to me.
Of course i'd have to fight for the rights to dot.dot. I'd love that domain. "www dot dot dot"
Re:ack! (Score:2)
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Re:ack! (Score:2)
Anyway, I just thought it was odd that you so rarely see it referenced, considering the subject matter it covers. I could it just be a side-effect of it actually being run properly (no metoo.int, etc).
-jcl