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Comment: Re:Bullshit (Score 1) 56

by mvdwege (#48276087) Attached to: Charity Promotes Covert Surveillance App For Suicide Prevention

Either we want absolute liberty and privacy, OR we want a nanny-state,

Since such a thing as absolute liberty and privacy is impossible, we must be living in a nanny state, watched, coddled and protected from all possible harm.

<Looks around> Hmm. I'm not seeing that. Perhaps you should work on your debating skills and not employ such easily dismissed false dichotomies?

Comment: Re:This could be really good for Debian (Score 1) 555

by mvdwege (#48211013) Attached to: Debian's Systemd Adoption Inspires Threat of Fork

NO. My argument was not that sysvinit was way too buggy. Your argument was that it was perfect, and I was disputing that by giving a single example of one of the possible ways it can break.

It's in fact this kind of dishonest arguing that is making those of us that want to look objectively at the various init systems move away even faster from SysV. Be proud of it. Now fuck off.

Comment: Re:This could be really good for Debian (Score 1) 555

by mvdwege (#48205221) Attached to: Debian's Systemd Adoption Inspires Threat of Fork

Sigh. Why do you have to turn this into another dick size war? I was trying to be reasonable by pointing out that SysV had some failure modes that systemd tries to address, and that one could at least accept that as a common ground upon which to debate the merits of both systems, but apparently you don't want to give even that much.

And then people complain that Lennart is occasionally a bit crabby online. Frankly, I'm starting to understand the guy.

Comment: Re:Trolls are the lowest form of life. . . (Score 1) 489

by mvdwege (#48201949) Attached to: In UK, Internet Trolls Could Face Two Years In Jail

Oh fuck off. You're essentially arguing that Germans who denounced their Jewish neighbours to the Gestapo are not responsible for those neighbourse being gassed, because all they did was speak, it was the SS that did the gassing.

Anyone recognises your 'speech is speech, it is those acting on the speech doing the bad things' as an idiotic bit of sophism that adult people should not take seriously.

So fuck off already. I'm done replying.

Comment: Re:This could be really good for Debian (Score 1) 555

by mvdwege (#48201935) Attached to: Debian's Systemd Adoption Inspires Threat of Fork

Yes, it was. Because the networking script tries to start nfs. There is a circular dependency in the scripts that is hard to debug.

And before you say that I should just edit those scripts: every next update may overwrite them, whereas systemd handles this dependency sanely. Why should I muck about with scripts then?

Comment: Re:This could be really good for Debian (Score 1) 555

by mvdwege (#48193601) Attached to: Debian's Systemd Adoption Inspires Threat of Fork

Not all new and shiny, but perfectly functional.

Tell that to my girlfriend. She can do most maintenance on her workstation, but she had to have me look at boot deadlocks about twice a month, all because /etc/init.d/rpcbind and /etc/init.d/networking were in a race, and the NFS mounts lost.

SysV rc is not 'perfectly functional' by a long shot. Both at home and at work I keep running into limitations that systemd solves. Systemd comes with other bugs, and I've been hit with one or two of them, but they were, for me, easier to solve than SysV rc race conditions and deadlocks.

The growing hairball is SysV rc. Systemd is an attempt to solve it. You may disagree with the solution, fine. But stop denying that it is at least an attempt at solving existing problems.

Comment: Re:Trolls are the lowest form of life. . . (Score 1) 489

by mvdwege (#48193417) Attached to: In UK, Internet Trolls Could Face Two Years In Jail

I have indeed no valid counterarguments I wish to present, as with your lack of reading comprehension and shaky grasp of logic it would be throwing pearls to the swine.

And for someone claiming that other people should just grow a thicker skin, you're a massive hypocrite to blow up a remark on your immaturity into a molehill.

Of course, emotional overreaction is another sign of your immaturity.

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