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Comment: Re:In lost the will to live ... (Score 1) 636

by Marxist Hacker 42 (#47968009) Attached to: How Our Botched Understanding of "Science" Ruins Everything

"No arheist is so stupid" was the claim. The link refutes the absolutist "no atheist", but perhaps I misread the misspelling, and you meant something else?

Still, I should have read further back in the conversation and posted this instead:
http://www.science20.com/writer_on_the_edge/blog/scientists_discover_that_atheists_might_not_exist_and_thats_not_a_joke-139982

Comment: Re:In lost the will to live ... (Score 1) 636

by Marxist Hacker 42 (#47966291) Attached to: How Our Botched Understanding of "Science" Ruins Everything

I was thinking more about the "Good without God" movement- definitively and explicitly atheist, yet still somehow affected by "Good" that just happens to coincide with the good of Christianity.

Your one true atheist would be rather unwelcome in such circles, having never worked at a soup kitchen.

Comment: Re:In lost the will to live ... (Score 1) 636

by Marxist Hacker 42 (#47966263) Attached to: How Our Botched Understanding of "Science" Ruins Everything

I remain unconvinced, either way, that the tale of Saint Isa is true or false. But if true- and there's plenty of room in the Bible for it to be true, 30 years is a long time in a young man's life, and travel to India was certainly possible from Galilee in those days- then yes, it is quite possible that Buddhism infected Christianity with certain ideas.

But I'm not sure what Buddhism has to do with modern Atheism, which would deny the Buddha as being yet another bronze age magician.

Comment: Re:In lost the will to live ... (Score 1) 636

by Marxist Hacker 42 (#47966203) Attached to: How Our Botched Understanding of "Science" Ruins Everything

"that views others as equal to yourself in all ways. "

Exactly. That was the novelty of Christianity 2000 years ago- the concept that all are equal in sin and dignity.

Well, that and free food. I think the free food, before the liturgy was locked down, was more the reason for conversion in a time that didn't have any such thing.

Comment: Trolling? Or just crap? (Score 2) 636

by khasim (#47966159) Attached to: How Our Botched Understanding of "Science" Ruins Everything

Here's the full quote from that partial in the summary:

This is how you get the phenomenon of philistines like Richard Dawkins and Jerry Coyne thinking science has made God irrelevant, even though, by definition, religion concerns the ultimate causes of things and, again, by definition, science cannot tell you about them.

He's wrong. The problem is that the concept of "God" is un-falsifiable. So you can always tack "because God wanted it that way" onto anything.

And then it gets worse:

You might think of science advocate, cultural illiterate, mendacious anti-Catholic propagandist, and possible serial fabulist Neil DeGrasse Tyson and anti-vaccine looney-toon Jenny McCarthy as polar opposites on a pro-science/anti-science spectrum, but in reality they are the two sides of the same coin.

Normally I'd say that that was trolling. Why toss irrelevant insults into a discussion? But I think it is an attempt to bolster an argument that he knows cannot stand on its own.

Both of them think science is like magic, except one of them is part of the religion and the other isn't.

And then he COMPLETELY skips over how Tyson believes that science is "like magic". He makes that insulting statement and then fails to support it.

This bizarre misunderstanding of science yields the paradox that even as we expect the impossible from science ("Please, Mr Economist, peer into your crystal ball and tell us what will happen if Obama raises/cuts taxes"), we also have a very anti-scientific mindset in many areas.

He thinks that Economics is a science. That's how wrong he is.

Not because science is "expensive" but because it requires a fundamental epistemic humility, and humility is the hardest thing to wring out of the bombastic animals we are.

Please look up the definition of "bombastic".

TFA could be a great example of trolling or Poe's Law or such. But I think it is just crap writing from someone who does not understand the subject.

Comment: Re:In lost the will to live ... (Score 0) 636

by Marxist Hacker 42 (#47964753) Attached to: How Our Botched Understanding of "Science" Ruins Everything

Well, for that matter, modern atheism is hopelessly Christian- it comes from a post-Christian world in which certain values that would never be recognized by pre-Christian pagans as true, are taken as truth.

Or at least that's the only explanation I can see for a non-violent atheism.

Comment: The same public key can map to many private keys (Score 2) 75

by Simon Brooke (#47962839) Attached to: Researchers Propose a Revocable Identity-Based Encryption Scheme

Private key and public key are factors in a two factor mathematical relationship.

So there can potentially be many (possibly infinitely many, I haven't tried to prove this) valid private keys for any given public key.

So I can see that, given the public key john@doe.com, I can see that there could be potentially many private keys. I see how you could brute force selecting a private key that matched your public key, and I can see that, depending how the brute-forcing is done, it would not be determinate that an attacker also trying to brute force a private key from the same public key would not come up with the same private key.

What I can't see is how, if you have a message which unlocks with the public key, how you can tell whether it was locked with the 'authentic' private key or with an attackers' inauthentic private key.

Anyone?

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