The thing to understand is we're talking about sixth tenths of a degree warming since 1990, when averaged over *the entire globe* for the *entire year*. If the change were actually distributed that way -- evenly everywhere over the whole year -- nobody would notice any change whatsoever; there would be no natural system disruption. The temperature rise would be nearly impossible to detect against the natural background variation.

That's the thinking of people who point out that the weather outside their doors is unusually cool despite global warming. And if that was what climate change models actually predicted, they'd be right. But that's not what the models predict. They predict a patchwork of some places experiencing unusual heat while others experience unusual coolness, a patchwork that is constantly shifting over time. Only when you do the massive statistical work of averaging *everywhere, all the time* out over the course of the year does it manifest unambiguously as "warming".

In the short term -- over the course of the coming decade for example, -- it's less misleading to think of the troposphere becoming more *energetic*. When you consider six tenths of a degree increase across the roughly 10^18 kg of the troposphere, that is as vast, almost unthinkable amount of energy increase. Note that this also accompanied by a *cooling* of the stratosphere. Together these produce a a series of extreme weather events, both extreme heat *and* extreme cold, that aggregated into an average increase that's meaningless as a predictor of what any location experiences at any point in time.

That we should be cool with them blowing through billions of our taxpayer dollars so that they can throw shit at a wall and see what sticks.

Remember when your mom told you the measure twice and cut once?

SpaceX isn't going fast because it gets results they're going fast because it gets investors. It builds elon's brand which attracts lots of investors to his various publicly traded companies. SpaceX is in public right now but you can bet your ass that when it's profitable enough to do so, and I don't mean the company's profitable, that it damn well will go public.

Is a fuck ton of smoke and mirrors designed to steal money from small investors. I say small investors because musk isn't quite as stupid as Bernie Madoff or Elizabeth holmes. He knows he can screw over as many hope you Gen x nerds and your parents and grandparents has he wants so long as he doesn't fuck with the rich.

If you look at SpaceX and how it's set up he let the really really rich people in first so that when he eventually takes it public, assuming his scam doesn't collapse before then, they all get in and out safely as you pour your money into it.

Eventually the whole thing collapses but by then he's long long gone with your money.

That's why Elon is having a temper tantrum over the big beautiful bill, it's going to cut his subsidies a little too soon for him to crash Tesla himself and get the money out safely.

What was supposed to happen is the cybertruck would drop and the stock would go crazy and then people would realize the Cyber truck was a piece of shit and the stock would crash but by then Elon would have had his 55 billion dollar pay package. But

But a law firm noticed that they could sue musk over that and Tesla would be required to pay a percentage of the pay package in compensatory damages. And because the pay package was so crazy huge that percentage which was designed to be relatively small with something like 100 million dollars..

I will give Musk credit for this he didn't make the same mistake twice. He bought a new law in Delaware from the legislation that will allow him to get his pay package and he just needs some time to sort out the paperwork.

That's the real reason those subsidies are being allowed the sunset by the end of the year and it's why musk is freaking out publicly that they might go away in September. He's not quite ready to screw over the small shareholders.

And honestly if it was just people dumb enough to invest in Tesla I wouldn't give a shit, but you fuckers tend to take the whole economy down with you when you do dumb stuff. I mean literally everyone was telling you 2008 was coming and you just ignored it and kept voting for pro corporate politicians that let it happen instead of regulating the economy.

You are correct that China is overpopulated at 4x the people in a land area less than 3% larger than the US. That makes their per capita CO2 numbers look better, but doesn't change the fact that their number is going up while the US is going down.

Their one child policy was a disaster and there's no ethical way to reduce their population by 75% but the climate doesn't care that they are breeding their way into outpolluting the US. The CO2 production needs to come down and the fact that some countries have much higher population density than others isn't an excuse for those countries to be allowed to drive the CO2 production up.

The fact that all of the tech that forms the basis of those programs was done by the government.

It's always the same fucking pattern with you people.

You take my tax dollars to do all the really expensive shit to take years or decades to pay off.

Then you privatize it and add a few minor finishing touches to turn it into a product.

Then I'm supposed to pretend you didn't just take hundreds of billions of dollars of my money to make a quick buck and that you're some kind of god-tier innovator.

Nice scam if you can get away with it.

Even if it did they are completely reversible. We used them all the fucking time for precocious puberty.

But nobody who says that is arguing in good faith. The important thing is to derail the conversation from anything that touches on immediate economic interests.

And make no mistake climate change is all about the economy and jobs. That's why it had to be turned into a culture war.

The Republican party and the right wing are just a shambling mass of moral panics and Petty grievances.

For something like that Trump might not be allowed to pick anybody but powell.

Remember Trump isn't actually in charge the heritage foundation and Peter theil, with a bit of Elon Musk mixed in just to make things more chaotic and cruel.

Trump is a senile old man who could barely make it through the first 20 minutes of a town hall meeting set up to lob him softballs.

Oh and as for the bond market you are a blooming moron.

The problem isn't borrowing money even as tax cuts. The problem is we borrowed $20 trillion dollars and handed it to the top 1%.

That fundamentally breaks our economy and the bond market knows it. They're going to start selling their bonds and that's going to tank the value of the dollar.

As is typical of people who don't know the first fucking thing about the US economy you don't understand that we are artificially boosting the value of the dollar using American debt.

That artificial boosting allows us to bring in trillions of dollars of imports for a fraction of their actual value. It's basically the imperial tribute to our empire.

Unfortunately you right wing douche nozzles don't understand any of that so here we are, the entire economy of America is going to collapse and somehow you will blame Hunter biden's laptop.

Honestly I'm not even talking to you. You're a random dipshit Internet troll and I can tell because you mentioned the tea party.

I just want a few people here that voted for Trump to realize how much they fucked up even though they're never going to admit it out loud. More and more of them have figured it out but they can't admit it or they lose the friend groups they gave up their real families for.

It's a religious cult so like any cult it's designed to cut you off from your real friends and family and include lots of credibility enhancing displays.

Gives a rat's ass about any of that and they actively wanted shut down because they want to roll coal dammit. They're a bunch of 12-year-olds angry that they're being told what to do by their parents.

I don't talk to climate change with those idiots. They only understand one thing and that's themselves. If it doesn't directly and immediately hurt them they are not going to be worried about it in the slightest.

I don't think of any of it matters anymore but these morons are going to get wiped off the map by hurricanes and tornadoes except the ones who die of heart attacks on the way to a hospital 2 hours away.

The fact that the Republican party doesn't fear screwing those people over is the surest indication that we are no longer a functioning democracy.

Simply put the Republicans do not have to cater to the old pieces of dog shit that have been putting them in power for 50 years anymore because those old pieces of dog shit are going to vote red until they're dead.

Who don't know how anything works tell me that's not how it works.

Most rural hospitals rely on Medicaid payouts as a consistent and reliable revenue stream to stay open. Without those payouts they aren't profitable and they go under in the hospital closes. Many suburban hospitals also fall into this.

I'm not Chicken Little you idiot. This is what the CBO is saying you can look at the fuck up. If you live in a rural community or a suburban community that's further out congratulations you just voted to shut down your own fucking hospital. Good luck not having a stroke or a heart attack.

If a miracle happens then in 4 years the Democrats will somehow get back in control and they will undo the worst of this and your hospital will open back up. That is extremely unlikely because county level voters suppression coupled with overwhelming corporate propaganda and ownership of news media means that the Republican party is basically unbeatable.

By the time you figure out that I was right you'll be too busy clutching your chest to care.

Because they were putting out data used for climate change analysis and it was becoming too obvious to damage was too extreme.

If you live in a place with severe weather events like floods or hurricanes or tornadoes then you can expect to get little or no notice in the coming years.

We all make trade-offs. Last November we made a pretty big one. Just now 5 trillion in tax cuts for billionaires just got rammed through the Senate. If you live in a rural community your hospital will be closing to pay for that. Some suburban hospitals will be closing too.

I don't think we talk about those trade-offs enough. We spend too much time talking about how much damage gets done to the poor but nobody gives a flying rat's ass about the poor.

So instead we should talk about how fucked everybody on this forum is now. We're going to take over a trillion dollars out of the US economy and hand it over to a handful of billionaires. They cannot possibly spend enough of it to keep the economy going. And the massive unfunded tax cuts are going to trash the bond market and with it the entire US economy.

The worst of it is scheduled for right after the midterm elections. And if you're over the age of 12 you should be able to figure out why.

You're going to get a lot of propaganda in your eyeballs over the next several months. And you need to figure out what to do about the economy first and foremost. But I don't think we can give up our moral panics. They're just too much fun.

It goes after individuals. The cops aren't there to protect you they are there to protect capital and business. They're there to make sure the economy moves smoothly for the people at the top.

Companies just want cheap labor and they could care less how they get it. So companies are happy to hire North Koreans and then act like they are victims when they get caught.

We could of course easily fix this by forcing verification but fat chance in hell that's going to happen.

In the meantime the supreme Court just upheld a Tennessee ban on general affirming care for minors. And you can say the r word now in public. Pretty fair trade for the entire US economy I think right? Right?

I don't know, I just asked Perplexity AI to design me a solution for a trip to Mars. It took a few back and forths, but eventually it came up with a solid solution. So I'll be sending you messages from Mars this time in 16 months. Last month I built a perpetual motion machine no cap.

This isn't hard, I don't know what everyone else's problem is. Maybe it's because they are using ChatGPT, the inferior AI. Jump into Perplexity, it will solve all your problems. I'm tired now but tomorrow I'm going to build a fusion reactor from pine needles. It's all about making the right prompt.

I can't figure out what the author wants at all. I am stupider for having read his article. His article looks like a polemic you would see in a college newspaper. For example:

ok, less hype, more results. I'm ok with that, let's set some concrete goals. What goals/results does he want? Maybe it will be an improvement over the status quo. What brilliant plan does the author have, or even mediocre idea? Nothing.

He doesn't say.

How is this?

There's been a robot soccer in this robot form factor for decades, here's an example with commentary.

Deep mind has been doing that form factor for years now, and they look decent.