Well, IBM was basically a zombie 10 years ago. Something will have to stake them to put them out of their misery. Fully agree on Microsoft. Their stuff is only getting worse at this time and was pretty bad before. And their cloud got hacked several times now and had really, really bad vulnerabilities were nobody knows whether they were attacked or not (which makes things worse). They clearly do not have what it takes to survive with the increased need for IT security we have today.

Life is doing long-term damage. You need to stop listening to the propaganda.

Just look at IBM, they are still alive. I think that they survives by providing services to banks and some of the Fortune 500 companies.

Microsoft shows all the signs of going the same path. Same with VMware.

Indeed. Also shows that giants die slowly, unfortunately.

Yeah. China tried that. The UK too. Does not work. And to make things like the TOR browser illegal is not easy and subject to the Streisand-effect.

My experience was like 30 years ago, that's how long ago that they were decent.

Of course any database requires a good DBA and good SQL programmers for optimal results regardless of who has made the database.

Simple: They will just learn ways around this ban. And then maybe the surveillance fascist assholes behind it will actually have taught them how to not get spied on later in life.

Or download the TOR browser for zero-configuration and free censorship circumvention. Like people in China do. Good thing too.

Obviously. Kinds that want to have had access to all of the Internet for a long time and that is not going to change. Negative effects? Quite limited and can be compensated with good parenting.

This is exclusively about surveillance fascists getting their wet dreams implemented.

Indeed. Blocks and other restrictions by authoritarian assholes do not work on things people want to do. And that goes even more for teens.

All these teens find out how to circumvent laws made by adult assholes. Might be a good thing too.

I talked to a DB expert at a really large bank about 15 years ago. Apparently, at that time Oracle was already not "good" at databases.

If the AI-idiots at Oracle overdid it and Oracle dies, there is at least one good outcome from the current AI craze.

If they have a phone they'll still be able to send text messages.

The creative ones will figure out ways...

And those that gets isolated will get "creative" and start to make a mess.

Oracle has definitely gone downhill for a long time. They should have been sticking to what they really were good at - databases and tools for accessing them.

The downward slope started somewhere around version 8.1 when they decided to add Java to the database.