It was on the older cars but on the newer ones they do seem to Outlast the rest of the vehicle.

The real problem is that everything else on the vehicle ends up being very expensive to fix so it ends up being like a BMW where it ends up in the junkyard and rotting there because it needs $20,000 worth of repairs. Also you typically need specialized tools and computer systems to do those repairs. So besides the occasional hobbyist that resurrects one most of the electric cars on the market today are destined to be turned into scrap as soon as the first owner runs them down. Maybe the second.

The problem is I used to drive a 20 year old Honda Accord. You're not going to have those kind of vehicles available for poor losers like me. Because just about everything being sold is a expensive luxury car.

I guess just added to the pile of crises that our economy is facing along with the fact that baby boomers represent 80% of consumer spending and they're going to die without leaving much if any inheritance, climate change, the collapse of democracy, the automation a job apocalypse and 100 other things I wish I had died before living to see...

We have had birth rates below sustainability since the late 1990s. Old people are always going to look to yesterday because when you are old your best years are passed you and you're starting to hurt all the goddamn time. Not that old people will admit it. But I think the amount of opioids being sold speaks for itself.

It is very difficult to have a country that looks forward when you have so many old farts. America is especially bad about that because we have largely disconnected anyone over 50 from the economy by giving them the benefits of the new deal and the Great society and then letting them take those benefits away from their children and grandchildren...

So politically you have a shitload of old people who are prone to nostalgia that can be easily exploited by corrupt politicians combined with a social welfare system that continues to benefit them but doesn't benefit anyone else.

It's not a surprise that the American capitalist system is rapidly breaking down. But those old people aren't going to let us do socialism. There is way too much resentment associated with socialism and wealth redistribution.

We need a third way but damned if I can think of one. I think we're gradually going to sink into a rather nasty techno feudal dystopia and eventually world war III is going to take off and a bunch of religious lunatics are going to get their hands on the nuclear launch codes...

I would love to be proven wrong and I would love someone to give me that third option I was talking about but honestly when I bring all this up people get so angry and depressed they just either yell at me or mod me down. Occasionally a lefty will tell me we're going to do socialism but they have no answer for that resentment

If I'm driving a gas car then why should I have to subsidize anyone in my apartment let's driving an electric car? The electricity still has to be paid for and the privately owned electric companies aren't going to give it away for free. Also who is going to pay to install those electric vehicle charging stations?

From what I understand electric cars don't substantially reduce the demand for gasoline. I thought they did but someone had corrected me.

If the entire fleet of American cars changed to electric that might be the case but I think the oil companies would have something to say about that. So that's not going to happen. Never mind the fact that the increased cost of an EV puts it out of the price range of a lot of people especially now that the subsidies are gone.

That's Kind of the problem. At the end of the day has someone stuck driving old gas cars why should I be required to subsidize electric cars? Either with my tax dollars or with my rent.

Don't just mod me down give me an answer.

I don't think it's really any more expensive for the sort of person buying a Tesla since that person is probably going to buy a big honking SUV with a big honking gas tank.

But it does still mean that if you don't have your own house with a charging setup you don't get the savings.

I guess there are people who can charge for free at work.

For Tesla I think the real problem is going to be that losing 20% of their sales after paying their CEO $100 billion dollars in salary means they aren't really going to be functional as a company for much longer. But also explains why SpaceX is going public. It's time to cash out before the crash

The US is a nation of yesterday. It is in a slow descent to the 2nd and in some aspect the 3rd world. And this has been a long time in the making. Arrogance on that level will get you left behind, eventually.

Nice FUD you have there. Makes you part of the problem.

... can keep the ICE going. Does not look good for these cretins. At some time we will just slap the real costs on fossile fuels and then this crappy historic tech will die.

Oh, look, somebody needed "research" to justify their management decisions ...

Observable evidence. I guess you are unfamiliar with the concept?

Which is almost exactly the number of people who are buying them with the tax credits. This is a few months after the end of the tax credits though. There is still probably a bit of the drop tied up with people who already bought their car right before the credits went away but they are probably looking at a permanent drop of about 20%.

Other car companies are having a hard time too with their electrics. Tesla obviously takes the biggest hit cuz electric is all they do.

It probably also doesn't help that charging an electric without at home charging is very expensive and housing is prohibitively expensive right now. So a lot of people are stuck in apartments and not going to be considering an electric for savings.

Marketing. There is no sane reason to reimplement things in Rust, unless they have been a constant security problem. For example, reimplementing Bind would probably a good idea with their constant crap. But you can just move to alternatives. Same for Sendmail, but Postfix is an excellent replacement.

Reimplementing commandline-tools that are not a problem is pure insanity.

It very much does not. And Rust is not "safe by design" either, that is nonsense. It can prevent or reduce some forms of problems, mostly from the areas of memory safety and effects like race-conditions. But look at PHP, which is completely memory safe and still one of the worst source of security problems.

What Rust does is to allow actually competent secure code developers to focus more on the remaining problems, of which there are many.

What Rust lacks to be taken fully serious is a specification. No, an implementation can never replace a specification, that idea is amateur-level.

Actually, that would be a lie by misdirection, because the actual competition are renewables and storage and there nuclear does not look too good. Not that the nuclear fanatics are above lying ...

These people operate on the same level as clueless major software makers like Cloudstrike, Microsoft, etc. Hence while this could be done a lot better and competently, these people just do not have the skills.

Some still do that. And some send ransomware threats when there is no attack. Apparently the both approaches continue to work to some degree.