Ah yes, the "I've never see it, so it *never* happens argument. I can't change what you've seen, but I can correct your incorrect statements, as I have done. Believing the truth is still up to you.
Every day I drive by a flock of bikes not traveling at the same speed. Your statement doesn't apply to just me.
You are apparently arguing that roads with explicit pedestrian signals at *Every* light are designed for cars *only*. That is a logic fail I can not help you with.
I'm not sure I understand your point. Are you saying I'm saying .... actually shouldn't you just ask for clarifications my views before ranting about lack of logic? Seriously, half of what you said here is a response to some fictional story you wrote.
Your argument is that is the pedestrian's fault for walking so close to a busy street.
No, that is not an argument that I have made. I didn't say anything about pedestrians and my opinion on them wasn't asked. But since we're all being snippy here, I'll just use your debate style, here.
"Apparently you think sidewalks shouldn't exist at all and all roads should just be flat from one end to another. Pedestrians, instead of walking on a raised surface designed specifically to handle their traffic and to offer a level of safety, should just walk in their own lane as explicitly defined by a line painted on the road. They'll be perfectly safe so long as drivers are 100% safe when they drive."
Amazing. I am seriously amazed.
If you are in a situation where you would be 100% safe if everyone else followed the rules, are you really responsible for what the lawbreakers do to endanger you?
Why is this conversation strictly about law-breakers? The whole point I've been making is that it's dangerous, not that it's dangerous because there are law-breakers. The very nature of it is dangerous for very obvious and observable reasons. You're throwing random stationary objects on the side of the road and the onus is completely on drivers to deal with it . If a city is designed for that, fine! I'd be surprised if even one city in the US was. Even in the area I live in, there are bike lines, and they're crammed with self-righteous dippies who still manage to bunch up traffic and narrowly avoid getting hit.
I've been in the car with people that have cursed and threatened bikes in a bike lane that passed them because getting passed by a bike was somehow offensive.
I'd love to see an instant replay of that. You've probably just seen an insane person, but I'm curious if you were seeing somebody violate traffic rules and not realize it. I've watched bicycle riders ride in between cars and become a hazard. I've seen them run red lights or stop signs because they don't give a shit about traffic rules. I've watched them ride in bike lines but cause a massive bunchup because they ride very close to the inner line and ... wobbly. A bunch of cars have to drift into the other lane to go around them because a.) The cyclist is going too slow and b.) They're worried he's going to fall on his side and get his head run over. In the US it's not very difficult to get a driver's license, and there are lots of dumb drivers out there as a result of it... and riding a bicycle on a road doesn't even have that minimum level of exclusivity!
The physics are simple. If the paths of the two objects never intersect, then it doesn't matter what the kinetic energy is of either for calculating the collision damage.
Exactly! If bikes and cars don't cross paths, then the amount of energy, measured in any unit system you like, is ... ZERO! We actually agree on this.