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Comment Re:Brought to you by: (Score 1) 412

Blame the people who keep electing them.

"I'm not to blame, I always vote for the guy that promises to be an honest regular Joe just like me!"

Sarcasm aside, I do sort of agree with you. I don't blame the voters for voting the guy in, they are ALL corrupt, and even if they weren't, it's not like there's any way we'd know until it's too late. They don't have any real need to commit to their promises and it's not like they're up front and tell us they're going to screw us over. Seriously, blaming people for not knowing the future is utter horse shit. You should be ashamed of yourself for believing what you're saying without giving it one ounce of thought.

What I do blame the voters for is we never, for lack of a better term, fire any of these people. Just imagine what a few recall elections would do.

Comment Re:No *official* port. (Score 1) 333

There was a Dilbert cartoon where Wally printed off a document for the PHB and handed it to him. The boss said "Great, but I asked you to print these in color!" "Oh, well Black and White technically are colors so... oh... I see!"

In the last frame Dilbert asked Wally "and that satisfied his need to make unnecessary changes?" And Wally goes "Yep! The best part is while I was talking to the boss, the color copies were printing!"

Comment Re:Shocked. (Score 1) 851

One thing you should consider, though, is her supervisor will likely see how she's a team player . She may (and yes, reality doesn't always work this way I'll concede) end up getting a raise or avoiding a layoff.

Having your coworkers like you is a good thing.

Comment Re:Speaking as a road user not in a 4,000lb box... (Score 1) 318

But when I point out that the same happens with pedestrians and crosswalks, you claim that's not the same. I honestly don't see a massive difference between sidewalks and crosswalks to the idea of bike lanes.

You don't see how stopping traffic to let people through isn't a huge difference?

Why are you, as a car driver, so opposed to bikes on the road?

Because I don't want to hit one.

They don't reduce your safety.

Yes, they do.

...implying that there exists causeless actions gives in to helplessness that promotes unsafe behaviors...

Nobody said 'causeless'. I can't believe the ignorance you're displaying here! Are you over-zealously defending your point or are you really so inexperienced at life that you don't understand this topic? I really hope it's the former.

...if accidents are unavoidable, why try?

Because the number of accidents is an integer and not a boolean.

And yes, that defeatist attitude is real, and does reduce safety, that's why the NHTSA removed the word "accident" from the Fatal Accident Reporting System. http://www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/airbags/Archive-04/PresBelt/crash_accident.html (not a press release on FARS renaming, but an official article declaring "Crashes Aren't Accidents."

Oh that's classic, man. Hahaha. Do you see the world 'preventable' all over the article you sent me? Think about it.

Comment Re:Speaking as a road user not in a 4,000lb box... (Score 1) 318

Your point seems to be that bikes are at fault for being run over by a car...

No, I'm saying that mixing cars and bikes on the same road is dangerous.

So, by implication, you are asserting there is *no* reason for bike lanes.

What?

Given the fact that you didn't refute my statement in any way (other than the ignore and deflect tactic) indicates to me that you believe it to be true...

Of course it does. You wish it to be true, so you tried to find something that'd support that statement. I know a guy that believes aliens are skimming our planet and all of these reports of 'UFO activity" indicate to him that they're here. Same thing.

You *only* care about proving yourself right and not listening to anything that contradicts your pre-conceived opinion.

Projecting.

I think you have detoured into lying. If I had been supporting your agruemnts so well, why are you arguing so vehemently?

That's a funny way to ask "What do you mean?" Or were you trying to distract from just how stupid that statement really was? Clarify, please?

...despite the fact that they do not reduce the safety of people in cars at all.

Ahhhh now we've reduced the scope to just the people in the cars! That's sneaky, dude. (The statement's still untrue.) That's actually worse than claiming what I see on a daily basis doesn't actually happen then denying cyclists are 'stupid ping pongs', too. I think you're starting to see that I'm right.

If nobody broke any laws, how do you see the thousands of cars running over bikes to continue to happen? Cars just "accidentally" run them over while the bikes are in the bike lanes and the cars are in the car lanes? Come on, you asserted that it's dangerous even if nobody ever broke a law, so just give a few plausible examples of how a car will be running over a bike while both are following the law.

The answer is within your previous post. If that's not enough, then I'd like to know why life hasn't taught you this already. Have you not had a driver's license for very long? Are you still living with your parents and haven't been out in the real world for very long? Do you have a medical condition and all you know about life you get from reading the Internet? I just want to understand why you don't understand the phrase 'shit happens' before I spend any amount of time explaining to you what the word 'accident' means.

Notice, you are proving my point that you are dumber than a ping pong ball. Notice, you are proving my point that you are dumber than a ping pong ball. It was a general statement about traffic flow. Bikes on a road, acting as cars are "drivers" in that context.

" And it was a bike in a bike lane riding past stopped cars who were in the adjacent car lanes who were stopped because of traffic. The jealousy of car drivers is insane, I agree, but I've not seen any car driver that didn't exhibit that trait."

You didn't let me down. The best bit was when you accused me of lying! It really is hard to take your comments too seriously when you expressly live in denial of 'shit happens'.

Comment Re:Speaking as a road user not in a 4,000lb box... (Score 1) 318

"I don't see it, so it never happens anywhere."

"I don't see it, so it never happens anywhere."

Yes, it is. You've argued that bikes traveling as required by law, have only themselves to blame if they are hit by cars (if they weren't there, they wouldn't be hit).

That is a different statement from the one you used. That's also not a complete understanding of my point. If you could tell the difference between the two statements, you'd understand my view a lot better.

Absolutely true.

Wrong. A crosswalk is not a bike lane. A crosswalk, for example, stops traffic for the safety of pedestrians. The rest of the time, they walk on sidewalks. There's a reason for it!

You are so busy justifying your personal opinion that you haven't stopped to even consider anyone else might be right.

You are so busy justifying your personal opinion that you haven't stopped to even consider anyone else might be right.

You do realize that traffic engineers used to model traffic with ping pong balls, until they realized that people were stupider than ping pong balls, so they had to computer model based on the well proven and known ping pong ball models, then make the model "dumber" to accommodate actual drivers, who brake for no reason, change lanes in a manner that slows down everyone on the road and such?

It doesn't surprise me at all. Notice you're only (again) speaking of drivers?

If nobody broke any laws, then there'd be no crashes (bike/car or car/car),..

Wrong. WRONG. Wrong. Wrong.. Wrongity wrong from Wrongsville, Wrongsylvania. You do understand that collisions are called 'accidents', right? Seriously, this is bar-none one of the stupidest statements I've ever seen on this site and, amazingly, you disproved your own statement in the same post. Seriously dude, you are amazing me again.

You assert that car drivers have no responsibility to "respect"....

I have not, actually. What's funny is the actual point I have been making you have been supporting with your own arguments. Can't wait to read your next work of fan-fiction!

Comment Re:Speaking as a road user not in a 4,000lb box... (Score 1) 318

Ah yes, the "I've never see it, so it *never* happens argument. I can't change what you've seen, but I can correct your incorrect statements, as I have done. Believing the truth is still up to you.

Every day I drive by a flock of bikes not traveling at the same speed. Your statement doesn't apply to just me.

You are apparently arguing that roads with explicit pedestrian signals at *Every* light are designed for cars *only*. That is a logic fail I can not help you with.

I'm not sure I understand your point. Are you saying I'm saying .... actually shouldn't you just ask for clarifications my views before ranting about lack of logic? Seriously, half of what you said here is a response to some fictional story you wrote.

Your argument is that is the pedestrian's fault for walking so close to a busy street.

No, that is not an argument that I have made. I didn't say anything about pedestrians and my opinion on them wasn't asked. But since we're all being snippy here, I'll just use your debate style, here.

"Apparently you think sidewalks shouldn't exist at all and all roads should just be flat from one end to another. Pedestrians, instead of walking on a raised surface designed specifically to handle their traffic and to offer a level of safety, should just walk in their own lane as explicitly defined by a line painted on the road. They'll be perfectly safe so long as drivers are 100% safe when they drive."

Amazing. I am seriously amazed.

If you are in a situation where you would be 100% safe if everyone else followed the rules, are you really responsible for what the lawbreakers do to endanger you?

Why is this conversation strictly about law-breakers? The whole point I've been making is that it's dangerous, not that it's dangerous because there are law-breakers. The very nature of it is dangerous for very obvious and observable reasons. You're throwing random stationary objects on the side of the road and the onus is completely on drivers to deal with it . If a city is designed for that, fine! I'd be surprised if even one city in the US was. Even in the area I live in, there are bike lines, and they're crammed with self-righteous dippies who still manage to bunch up traffic and narrowly avoid getting hit.

I've been in the car with people that have cursed and threatened bikes in a bike lane that passed them because getting passed by a bike was somehow offensive.

I'd love to see an instant replay of that. You've probably just seen an insane person, but I'm curious if you were seeing somebody violate traffic rules and not realize it. I've watched bicycle riders ride in between cars and become a hazard. I've seen them run red lights or stop signs because they don't give a shit about traffic rules. I've watched them ride in bike lines but cause a massive bunchup because they ride very close to the inner line and ... wobbly. A bunch of cars have to drift into the other lane to go around them because a.) The cyclist is going too slow and b.) They're worried he's going to fall on his side and get his head run over. In the US it's not very difficult to get a driver's license, and there are lots of dumb drivers out there as a result of it... and riding a bicycle on a road doesn't even have that minimum level of exclusivity!

The physics are simple. If the paths of the two objects never intersect, then it doesn't matter what the kinetic energy is of either for calculating the collision damage.

Exactly! If bikes and cars don't cross paths, then the amount of energy, measured in any unit system you like, is ... ZERO! We actually agree on this.

Comment Re:Speaking as a road user not in a 4,000lb box... (Score 1) 318

When I commuted for a year by bike, I regularly passed cars (moving ones, not ones stopped at stoplights). I'd travel the speed limit or higher.

Oh? Can you ride at 40mph? That's impressive, nobody where I live can.

The worst of which focus on everyone else...

You mean the other cars that the road was designed for.

...so we can only presume you to be one of the worst drivers on the road.

Ah. I express my opinion and I'm greedy, but when somebody puts themselves in a dangerous situation and blames everybody but themselves.... Mmm hmm.

I'd like to point out two things: 1. The car drivers are the only side being blamed and 2. The actual physics of this discussion have been ignored by everybody who rides a bicycle. When smokers do this, it's cognitive dissonance.

Oh you angelic law abiding bicycle riders, cursed to eternity by the un-ritghteous. You do know that none of us actually want to hurt you, right? It'd be nice to actually see an admission of that, for once.

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