why not? Here we have to have enough skills to get a job so we can buy food... But our food isn't just swimming along next to us. It's right there.... what's the problem? Why wouldn't a freed orca know to chase down an X and eat it?

You know.....

This story is a legitimate chance for anti-GWers to crow a little bit. (sort of). We have something here, by a reputable source (NASA) that has revealed a tough question. We thought the deep ocean was warming. It turns out it isn't. We were using that as a sink for the heat to explain the recent pause in the global warming. Shit... This makes us search for some answers.

This is science working. It's also NASA saying "hey, wait a minute", which You People always seem to say never happens. It's also STILL saying that the oceans are warming, just not the deep oceans. It also says the deep oceans are REALLY hard to measure, so perhaps it's wrong. We'll see.

So, yeah, Anti-GWers, this was your moment to shine. This was your moment to crow. Instead CppDeveloper decided to make an ignorant comment about CO2 being plant food. Yes. We knew that. Thanks. You're about 20 years behind on your Stupid Anti-GWing statements. We know CO2 is plant food. We know plants absorb it. That's kind of the point of oil. It's a nicely balanced system and we have been A. releasing millions of years of Stored In Plants CO2 inside 200 years and B. cutting down rain forest for beef farms at the same time. We've hashed out your stupid statement years ago. You need to update...

Grumble.....

I already feel warm and fuzzy. This isn't about me feeling good about my recycling habits so I can narcicistically say I care and my neighbor doesn't. This is about me wanting to hand a world to my kids that isn't fucked over.

I'm not saying to not use the energy. Burn those fossil fules... maybe just capture the damn carbon? We had a giant SMOG problem, then we regulated and captured those emissions, and smog got a lot better. We have the tech. Just use it.... shit... If the price of gas goes up by a dollar but we don't fuck the world, I'm OK with that...

yeah, but the atmosphere gets stripped off because.... no magnetosphere... :D

argh.... Just... what do you think HAPPENS when you release a few million years of stored up carbon in a measly few hundred years as CO2. Just... think about it. It's not that hard... Fossil fuels are quite literally millions of years of stored CO2 from dead plants.... And you release it in this HUGE surge in just 200 years... We KNOW CO2 is a greenhouse gas. We know it prevents us from radiating heat back out into space. This is not disputed..

I need to stop arguing about this. I know the people that argue against global warming are morons or have an agenda... Why do I do this to myself?

I'm pretty sure it was you that diverged from reality... The earth is getting warmer dude... The data is easy to see. It's really easy to see. You can look up satellite pics of ice coverage. A simple Wolfram Alpha search will tell you global mean temperatures, and show you the data sources so you can investigate them better.

How do you people keep insisting nothing is going on? The excuses keep changing. "It's not warming. Ok, it is, but it's solar! Ok, it's not solar, but it's not man made.... It's natural cycles! Ok, it's it's moving too fast for natural cycles, but it paused for the last few years! It's warmer, but it stopped, so it's not warming! Ok, so yeah, Arctic sea ice is dwindling, but antarctic is growing! Ok, sure, arctic is sea ice and antarctic is land ice, but.... It's scientists, just making a grab for lucrative grab for government money! Ok, so that money is shit and it's pretty obvious all the real money is in private industry, but..."

On and on you people go, changing your story. Diverging from reality, if you will.....

furthermore, it's quite obvious that several industries just don't want a drop in profits that would come with regulation. It's quite obvious they've spent a TON of money to muddy the conversation. My question is, in 30 years when we can look back on this, will you !@#$holes fess up that you were wrong the whole time? Will you admit that you all were duped and spent decades ignoring your betters? Will you finally shut up?

Don't worry, I know the answer....

I go hiking a lot. I check the weather forecast. it's usually right. I wouldn't trust it 10 days out, except as a vague guidline, but I'd trust it three days out. I do, regularly. I live in Oregon. It's important to have your raincoat here....

So no, weather models are NOT a joke. They're incredibly accurate for just about every use case I've ever used them for. The absolute joke must be you...

I'm pretty sure it's pause explanation #1. The global temp hit a little pause. We wondered where all the extra heat was going. It turns out it was going into the oceans. Done in one.... This isn't new. We've known this for a while... This is simply that more of that has been occuring than we previously thought. Keep your snark.

Oh, frell off. you know, I know, everyone knows that net neutrality doesn't mean every connection has the same latency and bandwidth. It doesn't mean you can't prioritize a skype connection over a download.... It means you can't prioritize Company A's traffic over Company B's traffic because Company B didn't pay the ransom. It especially means you can't prioritize your own content over everyone elses to stifle competition.

Damn Trolls...

I actually think dudes should do this. I've done it, just to see. It's like a horde of Penis Pics and One Liners just bashing down your door... "Hey babe, sup?" does not engender a decent conversation. Really though, all guys should do this just to see what it's like. It's pretty sad....

Maybe a lot of people would be much better served if they stopped thinking of Women as a group/stereotype, and started considering Women as Individual People. Just say'in... You could probably extend that to People In General and life would get a lot nicer for everyone.

Mars does not have a molten iron core, and hence doesn't have the cool magnetic field that earth does. That magnetic field does a LOT to protect our atmosphere from getting stripped off, not to mention protecting us from radiation.

Screw Mars. Spend all that money on making it nice HERE. We have the means. We have the tech. We could have a star trek utopia right here... Free education, opportunity through small businesses, cheap housing, plentiful energy. We could have all that right here if we just put a smidge of effort into it.

Take all that money and just pay off 5% of the population's houses. Those people, now freed from having to grind on the treadmill for their housing, could start small businesses... circulating money in the economy. It doesn't need to be much. Start a taco truck... Employ a few people... We'd have zero unemployment and a lot more happiness. The economic repercussions would be staggering.

A lot of human suffering is because a few assholes ruin it for the rest of us. How about we fix THAT? Screw mars...

Actually, SolarWorld (a german company) is located in Hillsboro OR, and they pump out solar panels for roughly $1/watt, which is about average when I was shopping last. I suspect if there are cheaper panels, they're cheap for a reason....

So many stupid replies, I'll reply to myself. I should have just said this; There are so many REAL instances of police militarization, illegal wiretapping of US citizens, killing US citizens without a trial... These are the things that anger Liberals. When a conservative bashes the governement for taking over, the examples seem to be toilet flushes, light bulbs, and soft drink size restrictions......

It's not required. You can take your own trash to the dump.... No one makes you pay the garbage company.