So long as the caverns stay filled, everything should be fine, but once those caverns begin to drain; and they will, soon; I expect to see a lot of sinkholes in Oklahoma. Untouched (and dry), those caverns were quite stable and capable of holding the load above them.

Just look at the slides in Washington for an example of what happens when you get otherwise stable *dry* rock wet.

How was this off-topic? In the sense of the article, yes, but it was a direct and appropriate response to the comment I was replying to. No worries, plenty of karma to burn here, just wondering if someone wants to clarify for me.

Did you know that before you clicked? Learn to clickbait, that's how.

Why not 7.2, stereo subwoofers (yes, that's a thing). They do 9.1 now, as well.

Dry rock doesn't slide or collapse. Wet rock does. I'll let you put that together.

Precisely. Even when I was a minimum- or low-wage worker, I always considered myself lucky to be working full time and considered just how fucked I would be if my hours got cut.

If they're lucky enough to get full-time work. Since, for the vast majority of employers, that now means health insurance and a bunch of other non-wage expenses, that's going to become even more difficult to find than it has been.

What about supporting themselves? It can be done in most places in the US on $10/hr, but not if you're working part-time.

It would be nice if they could at least support a single person, though; true, if you combine 4 of them, you can support a family of 4, but not every expense scales in a linear fashion.

So then, if Grace Hopper were still alive and suffered a spinal injury... I see.

Yeah, I'm building from available options, not just walking the lot and looking at what they think will sell. It's not an option on anything I'm interested in and can afford. Interestingly, it's not even an option on the Genesis (also a bit out of my range), which would be the first car in Hyundai's lineup I'd expect to come standard with one. Not sure where you're from, but what you describe is *not* reality here in the US.

I've smoked too many S-2000s in my stock (as far as engine and drivetrain are concerned) Corolla, my mods extend to creature comforts and luxury features only. One guy was so pissed off at losing the first time that he burned out his clutch trying to keep his engine speed up for torque off the start on our second run.

Perhaps I've just encountered a series of bad drivers in S-2000s; but, if bad drivers are frequent owners of S-2000s, I'm not sure I want to put that label on myself. That said, my PM, who also happens to be one of the best drivers I know, loves them, so I'm torn, honestly.

I'd actually prefer an Eagle Talon TSi, but the ones I can find for sale are either not street legal in California (modded engine, intake, and/or exhaust) or completely beat to shit. So, since I can't find one of those, it's buy new or keep what I've got.

That's a Subaru BRZ on my side of the pond, and it sits just outside what I'm able to afford, once I tack on options to make it comparable (luxury- and style-wise) to my Corolla (which may or may not have some aftermarket creature-comforts installed). I wouldn't mind the increase in horsepower, but it's not worth nearly $30k to me and I've customized the interior of my 'rolla quite a bit. That said, I could sell the 'rolla back to the guy I bought it off of 2.25 years ago for almost twice what I paid him for it and pay off 1/4 of a BRZ with that money...

YES! If only because I'm still driving a 2000 Corolla because it's a manual and I'm only going to replace it with something brand new, or when it breaks; now that I can afford something new, nothing I both like and can afford even has manual as an option. Sad.