Comment It is working for them, though... (Score 4, Insightful) 274
Someone could learn something here, I'm pretty sure.
In the end, as I have said before, all I seek is a way to deter stoned people from going out in public. I don't care in the least how stoned people want to get at home as long as they stay there. The alcohol laws we currently have are intended to do much the same for drunks.
I assume you're from the US where "going out in public" automatically means you're driving a car?
In the US there is also a "drunk in public" offense where if you are sufficiently inebriated and in public, you can be charged as well. The charge is generally far less than DUI (although DUI is a total joke in the US). Basically if you are drunk and anywhere that is not private property, you can be charged with drunk in public. If we truly want to treat pot and alcohol the same way then shouldn't people who are sufficiently stoned face a corresponding charge if they are in public?
I wouldn't even care if people wanted to establish pot bars (or other such places where people can go and get stoned) as long as the people have non-intxoicated transportation to get back home when they're done.
How many tries did it take you to actually read my original comment?
Why would I read your entire comment? It's a waste of time to do more than skim anything you've written.
And how much time have you put in to making yourself look like an ass by replying to comments that you haven't read?
So, by a 'test along these lines', you really mean a test that actually works
Correct. I want a test that is scientific and quantitative. This test is the best first step towards that which I have seen to date.
That's a pretty big difference, and given that the current evidence suggests that any purely objective chemical test would be unreliable.
The goal should be a chemical test that is scientific, quantitative, easy to administer, and statistically robust. It should work at least as well as the breathalyzer (yes, I know that test is not without fault) and be as easy to administer.
Fortunately, a field sobriety test actually tests how fit you are to drive, which is what is already relevant.
A field sobriety test is the mother of all qualitative tests, really. Even if it is administered in view of the camera on the car (or a body camera if the police officer is wearing one) it is still not a robust test and they are often challenged in court on a number of grounds. A field sobriety test for pot would be at least as bad.
In the end, as I have said before, all I seek is a way to deter stoned people from going out in public. I don't care in the least how stoned people want to get at home as long as they stay there. The alcohol laws we currently have are intended to do much the same for drunks. If pro-pot people really want pot treated the same as alcohol they should be behind this as well, rather than treating it like some magical faultless cure for everything.
Actually, he addressed your entire argument
No, he did no such thing. He took a select few words and added his own spin, then tried to box my argument into a different tangent to justify his anger.
Go back and read what he wrote, then read what I actually wrote.
However, the test proposed has not been shown to be scientifically accurate
Do yourself a favor and go back and read what I wrote. I specifically said a test like this, and defined what I wanted a test to do. I did not say that this test does that. Don't make yourself look as ridiculous as he did.
The great injustice is that studies so far show that the typical driver may actually be safer under the influence of marijuana, because of the effect on driving styles.
You are using a very peculiar definition of "safer" there. If you are doing 15 in a 40 mph zone with your turn signal on, you might be safe for yourself but you are a serious hazard to the other drivers on the road.
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