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Comment Re:Fuck off (Score 1) 337

You steal my personal data, sell it to someone else who uses that data to commit crimes, you are a dangerous person.

Your data is not personal if it has ever been shared outside of machines you own. If your data can be used by someone else to harm you or others, then the insecure system is what is dangerous, not the alleged criminal. We're going to have to come around and face the facts. It's not the hackers that are misunderstood: People don't understand the nature of information.

Data wants to be stolen! Just look at the way it's dressed!

Comment Re:It can drive? (Score 1) 410

Oh my, a very hyped up and expensive car .. can go ... a lot slower than other, cheaper cars.
Definately newsworthy ...
Dang fanboys http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/11/05/173223/tesla-model-s-can-hit-at-least-132-mph-on-the-autobahn#

Pardon me, but what cheaper sedan goes from 60-100MPH in less than five seconds?

Comment Re:Passwords are property of the employer (Score 1) 599

So if your last job was being an accountant with access to bank accounts, you left, then later your ex-boss contacts you and tell you to give the account information to the janitors. You see no problem with this?

Hi, I'm your ex-boss. I want you to give secret information to people who should not have that information. Just trust me, nothing fishy going on here.

Is that the best horrible analogy you could come up with?

Comment Re:Passwords are property of the employer (Score 4, Insightful) 599

I disagree. It's dangerous to give a blanket statement that all the work belongs to them by default.

What work?

I've been in several situations in which I participated on other projects outside of work which used not a single work resource. It's too damn easy to claim you did it while on site or using work property.

That's why it went all the way to the board one time when I steadfastly refused to sign any agreement with them since the language was so overwhelmingly vague and if I patented a coffee napkin idea at home it was theirs. Nothing happened since I they could not afford to let me go at all.

I would prefer that nothing is decided in anyone's favor by default and must be proved in a court of law (no arbitration).

A non-compete agreement does not work for me as an independent contractor. Unless you pay me extremely well i'm not going to lock myself out of an entire market.

Ohh, and I guess that since I only work in Open Source it's kind of a moot point. It's rather funny when I explain that they don't actually own anything I make for them at all, and I don't either :)

What I said is what you do for your employer, in the context of this discussion around Terry Childs. Configuring routers and assigning administrative access controls to them is definitely not a personal project, even though Terry acted like it was. He even attempted to copyright his configurations.

Point taken on personal projects, and everyone I've worked for has been fine with the ones I've worked on, including my own meager and forgettable contributions to FOSS.

Comment Re:Physical access trumps passwords (Score 2) 599

If they had physical access to the systems, they should have been able to reset the passwords. Now, if he was intentionally prohibiting them from accessing the systems, after being fired, then he was doing something criminal. If, on the other hand, he was withholding passwords while working there - and being tasked with security for the network - then he did nothing wrong.

Of course they had physical access. To hundreds of individual devices scattered throughout a large city, requiring weeks and hundreds of hours to touch them all. Don't forget you have to power-cycle the devices to do a password recovery, so all that work has to happen during non-critical hours. Terry decided that a poorly written internal security policy document would serve him as a legal shield while he stood on his, arguably, warped principals. Terry was very, very wrong.

Comment Re:Passwords are property of the employer (Score 1) 599

I don't care if you made them up, they are the property of your employer.

Now the stupid thing here is Terry doesn't just engage in "burning bridges", but does it with himself standing in the middle. I can't feel pity for this fool.

It's interesting that this seems to be the prevailing opinion now. But when this all went down, Terry Childs was the Slashdot Poster Child. Why have opinions changed?

At the time people bought into Terry's argument that he was Don Quixote, saving the incompetent management from themselves. Admins good! PHBs bad! But then he was forced to hand over the passwords and San Francisco did not revert to the stone age as their entire electronic infrastructure melted down around them, as he expected. So Terry was wrong, and now he's just an asshole with a god complex doing time.

P.S. He was an asshole with a god complex back then, too. Now he's just better understood.

Comment Re:Passwords are property of the employer (Score 4, Insightful) 599

Not in anyway similar. If you take the keys to their trucks you are stealing but if you stop work there is no theft involved. If you want me to talk to you then that is work and I no longer work for you. You should have implemented a better system when I was employed for you. To take this into the real world, what would have happened if he had been killed in a traffic accident? The same procedure that would go into place in such an event should also work during a dismissal. If you do not have such a procedure do not blame the guy that you just sacked as that would make as much sense as blaming a dead guy. It is your fault.

That's an incredibly simplistic and incorrect understanding of intellectual property and work ownership. What you do for your employer while you work for them belongs to them, unless you have a specific agreement stating otherwise. Just because you don't work there anymore doesn't relieve you of your obligation to give them back their property, which in this case was the command and control of their own network infrastructure.

But good luck with that.

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