CrackThisBox Updates 414
Tsu writes "Well, our good friends over at the Win2K Test Site have, unsurprisingly, stolen an idea from the competition: they've released their Administrator password. Meanwhile, the linuxppc people now have a guestbook up. "
Re:Again, who needs to crack it? (Score:1)
/.ed? (Score:1)
Has it ever been up? (Score:1)
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=> `status.htm'
Connecting to www.windows2000test.com:80...
Connection to www.windows2000test.com:80 refused.
Kinda says it all I think =)
Microsoft has taken security to a whole new level! (Score:3)
The best way to keep a box secure is to have as much downtime as possible!
This is the invention of the century! Just imagine how many DoS and cracker attacks your site could avoid by being down 80-90% of the time!! I think that Microsoft has realized this important security concept a long time ago and integrated it into their products long before it gained wide acceptance.
In the past, the instability of Microsoft products was the laughing stock of all but the poor computer illiterate masses ("my computer's cupholder broke"). But Bill Gates had a vision.
Now I can see that Microsoft boxes are more secure than any non-MS OS, even OpenBSD or LinuxPPC! I mean, if I, a legitimate user can't even connect to the box then how can a cracker break into it? The amazing potential of this technology staggers the imagination.
And OS technology is advancing all the time. See, in the beginning, MS Windows 1.0 had pretty low downtime. But as Microsoft gained more experience in the fields of Bloatware (trademark of Microsoft) and Instability, its newer products featured more and more security. (By the way, Bloatware is a security concept that uses large amounts of bogus data to hide the few relevant files so a possible intruder can't find them and it also makes a product look like it has a ton more features since it comes on 48 CD's instead of a floppy
Right now the latest and most secure MS product is Windows 98. From firsthand experience I can tell you that it does a marvelous job of keeping intruders out, although i have to save my work more often and I've become partially color blind -- my eyes have stopped seeing the color blue because I used to see it all the time.
Windows 2000, the upcoming Microsoft product will have even more amazing security. So far I've tried going to the w2k test page and the security measures there boggle the mind. I was unable to connect 90% of the time! Now logic will dictate that if I can't connect then some mean coke-drinking disk-slinging PERL-addicted maniac cracker won't be able to break in and do nasty things to the box and the $200+ OS on it.
Now isn't that better than some free OS that is always up? Microsoft, thank you for making your OS so secure!
PS. I think that by year 2002 Microsoft will bring us an OS so advanced that it will have a 100% downtime. Now that's what I call cutting-edge technology.
Want your box to be secure? Switch to an MS OS. Get faulty routers & switches. Move to a rainy area. That's the Microsoft way.
For the humor deprived: this was a joke. I think that if Microsoft wants to survive the next couple years it needs to get its act together and strive for quality instead of releasing a new version asap to bring in quick cash.
--diarrhea
Re:Oh really? (Score:1)
Re:heh (Score:1)
Hope this helps,
Chaz
Re:linuxppc owned. (Score:1)
Linux box,(Not that I have the skill to crack ether) mainly becaus there is no insentive to crack the W2K box other then to prove that it can be done. I think that many linux ueser (including me
will make shure that the "Linux box is really getting a fare shake"
> I know my spelling is really bad sory
Optionally. (Score:1)
Re:Typical Bigotry...Give MS a fair shot... (Score:1)
If you dont give it upgrades and reboot reguraly, then it will eventually die..
Now I know why they are MICRO-SOFT (Score:1)
Re:Again, who needs to crack it? (Score:1)
Guestbook should be Slashdot (Score:1)
If not secure enough, then just do what should be done, host the commnents on a separate machine, ie slashdot.
Re:Oh really? (Score:1)
And who do you think is responsible for creating the training for the MSCE's in the first place?
Re:Microsoft and Uptime (Score:1)
That must mean you're providing rock-solid servers to more and more Windows 9x and NT desktop machines, right?
Everybody has known for quite some time that Unix makes a pretty darn good server platform. Sounds like you support a lot of Windows desktop machines.
I feel bad for you...No, really (Score:1)
There, now that wasn't too painful, was it? And so easily accomplished without resorting to childish things like saying that one of the two organizations is stealing ideas (as if either were brand new), or outright lies like "Win2K lacks any remote administration tool like telnet," if you are indeed the person who made that remark.
And next time, please don't wuss out and blame political correctness-persecution instead of owning up to what you did. There are a lot of real cases of people getting screwed by the joke that is political correctness. Yours isn't one of 'em -- you were just spreading bad information.
As for your "Trying to please everyone is hard" remark, I didn't realize that there was a huge pent-up demand for incorrect information here. Who exactly would have been "displeased" if you had just reported the facts and left the rest out? Thanks, but this site's already got enough misinformation as it is.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
What a laugh. Traffic Circles (Score:1)
AS OF 7:40 AM EST WINDOWS IS UNREACHABLE (Score:1)
Pinging www.windows2000test.com [207.46.171.196]
with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Ping statistics for 207.46.171.196:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4
(100% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
SUNDAY, AUGUST 7, 7:40 AM EASTERN STANDARD TIME
crack.linuxppc.com was reachable with both ping and Netscape. 'Nuff said.
Re: Typical Bigotry vs. excellent propoganda (Score:1)
Re:Just a thought (Score:1)
Re:Oh really? (Score:1)
Re:rain has taken depression to a whole new level! (Score:1)
Hey pal! I live in this godamned rainy area and I will tell you one thing:it is freeken killing me! Normally it is nice here during the summer. (thank god) but this summer, there have been two or three weeks of sun and the rest has been cloudy and rainy. Guess what? The leaves are already changin colors!
So next time all you folks wonder what the hell is up Microsofts ass. It is the freeken weather OK?
this message is meant in no way to defend microsoft
Re: Typical Bigotry vs. excellent propoganda (Score:1)
Even in the ludicrously under-regulated U.S. economy, there is a presumption that you don't steal and you don't lie. Gates, et. al., are famous for doing both - pathologically, you might say.
No one minds success when it comes from hard work and talent. But success which comes from lying, cheating, and stealing is intolerable even in the U.S.
Morality, you see, is not at all subjective. By any possibly true moral normative theory - Utilitarianism, Contractarianism, or Deontological Theory - lying, cheating, and stealing are demonstrably morally wrong.
If a person is evil because they consistently do what is demonstrably morally wrong, then Bill Gates is clearly evil. End of story.
It doesn't help, of course, that their products mostly suck. Mostly.
Re:linuxppc owned. (Score:1)
But the same goes for the linux guys...
I honestly believe the Linux box is being battered by people using linux.
First of all I know more about linux and *nix in general than about NT. The linuxbox makes a more attractive target that way. That argument probably goes for many of the linux people.
Why would I try to break an os I don't use? Just to prove it's unstable? I'm not that kind of guy and frankly, I don't really care.
Yes, I am a bit biased... so I'd rather see the linux ppc being really put to the test.
I believe ESR wrote something open source worked because people were "scratching personal itches".
Linux security is *my* personal itch, Windows security is someone else's.
I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine...
The Halloween documents [opensource.org] may be a clear indication that MS is not about to scratch Linux' back.
But on the distribution of attacks:
I expect the D.O.S. attacks being mostly cross-platform (linux kiddies trying to nuke win2k and windows kiddies trying to nuke linuxppc), while the cluefull attacks are being done by people who know a bit about the os they're trying to get into.
Re: Typical Bigotry vs. excellent propoganda (Score:1)
Any examples beside the fact that he is very ferocius businessman ?
Re:Oh really? --RAS (Score:1)
Re:It is pretty hard to crack a site ... (Score:1)
javascript error?? (Score:1)
-kidd
No thunder in lovely [rainy] washington (Score:1)
NOPE no thunder here. Nope. Promise. Hey did anyone download some of that nifty ass free software that microsoft gives away from their website during the time that win2k was down due to the thunder?
that would prove they didn't lose power.
Besides? Why would they lose power? Aren't they the biggest software company in the world? Wouldn't they have generators to keep the happy web face of the HUGE CASH COW they got going up there in bumblefuque?
I know they probably think those most SANE people would move up here to WHITE TRASH HELL IN THE RAIN but I live here, and I know what the weather is like [see related post]: And it is NOT LIGHTNING IN WASHINGTON!
Re:I feel bad for you...No, really (Score:1)
Why? Bigger Faster (Score:1)
I swore the status page mentioned 20% load at one point. Why would one need a bigger machine?
So did all that tweaking to fend off attacks increase the processor usage?
uhhh yes there are. (Score:1)
Re:It is pretty hard to crack a site ... (Score:1)
Traceroute of Win2K test (Score:1)
8 sl-bb10-sea-9-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.6.90) 50.642 ms 51.102 ms 50.993 ms
9 sl-microsoft-4-4-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.192.6) 51.736 ms 52.360 ms 51.980 ms
10 iuscgsrfec7501-a5-00-1.cp.msft.net (207.46.190.38) 52.389 ms 52.129 ms 52.981 ms
11 iuscb11ixc7502-a1-00-1.cp.msft.net (207.46.129.136) 51.672 ms 52.598 ms 53.737 ms
12 iusd27nt5c7201-a1-0-1.cp.msft.net (207.46.168.36) 52.838 ms 52.947 ms 53.267 ms
13 207.46.175.250 (207.46.175.250) 53.226 ms 52.794 ms 52.895 ms
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Contest? which contest? (Score:1)
on the first one or two days the domain wouldn't even resolve, and then now it does but I can't connect anyway.
I agree with some ppl that say Microsoft gets bashed too much but in these cases they should be ashamed of even making such a server...
Re:Typical Bigotry...Give MS a fair shot... (Score:1)
Mirrors? (Score:2)
*snicker*
-- Greg
Re:who took what? (Score:1)
rpm *is* a command line tool (Score:1)
While it might be rather difficult to manage the rpm database with a text editor, it isn't hard at all to manage it from the command line. I can't stand RedHat's GUI front ends to rpm, but I get along with rpm itself just fine. Try something line "rpm -qfi /bin/ls".
Who stole what? (Score:1)
My... how hippocritical.
Re: (Score:1)
Re:Typical Bigotry...Give MS a fair shot... (Score:1)
What-everrrrr...
Destroying the computer industry... What?
Maybe if I also smoked some crack I would understand...
password? (Score:1)
doesn't do much good when all I can get is a connection refused instead of getting the password eh?
Re:Typical Bigotry...Give MS a fair shot... (Score:1)
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Wonko the Sane
Management will never ever see this (Score:1)
Re: Typical Bigotry vs. excellent propoganda (Score:1)
Re:Oh really? (Score:1)
These test have nothing to do with the real world,
they only have to do with MS and MS products. Or how to run a wizard to help migrate you to MS products. I love how they turn a blind eye to unix and other systems as if they will they only ones,
I also love the way the make stuff up and call it some silly name. When that same stuff has been around for 30 years and already has a name.
MSCE is brain washing nothing more.
Re:Oh really? (Score:1)
CY
You need to be at the console, (Score:1)
Re:Again, who needs to crack it? (Score:1)
it was down right before i came here - er, actually after because i hit slashdot, saw the link, thought i'd see if it was up (it wasn't) and came back here to comment on it.
and darn it, i was looking forward to upgrading again!
Re:Just a thought (Score:1)
Re:Hardly an effective telnet port (Score:1)
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"This moon-cheese will make me very rich! Very rich indeed!
IT DOESN'T ACCEPT PINGS (Score:1)
Now, AFAICT, their web services have been down for two days now. But the box has been up most of the time. Still pathetic, though: "Crack this box, it has no services running and one 'open' port that refuses all connections."
There's security for ya.
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"This moon-cheese will make me very rich! Very rich indeed!
Linuxppc Still Up (Score:1)
so far. The guestbook gets real crazy and seems
to screw things up once in a while, but she keeps
coming back. 0 crashs 0 cracks.
M$ still down.
Feel my scorn microweinies.
Go ahead plant some more 'astroturf'
CC
Re:clarification (Score:1)
Windows is a commercial product... (Score:2)
Every bug you report and every enhancement you suggest to Microsoft, whether in this test or in their office suites, saves them lots of money in quality control and lost sales. It brings them one step closer to crowding out all their competitors. And, to add insult to injury, they will probably increase the prices later because their product is better, based on your suggestions.
I'd concentrate on testing and bug reporting for Linux. That way, you yourself are the beneficiary of your bug hunting; you don't pay for it twice.
Microsoft's claim is that commercial, for profit development is better. Well, then let them pay for their quality control themselves. Trying to weasel quality control out of their customers is just tasteless in my opinion.
Re:who took what? (Score:1)
Yeah, base you use of a tool on how it's promoted rather than how it works. That's smart!
Re:Hey! CRACK.LINUXPPC.ORG is DOWN! (Score:1)
They cycle it every 5 I think. It seems to have
a DOS effect.
She's still up!
CC
Re:Oh really? --RAS (Score:2)
Ah, like the wondrous UNSUPPORTED telnetd? The one with warning labels all over it? The one that crashes the moment you disconnect? I was quaking in my boots
And if you honestly consider server manager to be a usable admin tool, then wow you have low standards. How about user manager? Boy sure would be neet to get account status from the list. Of course the list when you have a thousand users tends to take eons to refresh, unless you go to low-bandwidth in which case you can't see any of them.
Every time I attempt to use an MS tool, I end up muttering over and over "what a joke. what a fucking joke". Then the Microsofties then blame me for not tolerating crap, it's a failing in me, why can't I praise it for being GUI?
Joke. And every ISP knows it.
Re:I feel bad for you...No, really (Score:1)
Re:linuxppc.org HAS NOT BEEN CRACKED: yes, it has (Score:1)
Certainly it would have been better to consider that people do that with guestbooks that allow HTML.
Sebastian
Re:Oh really? (Score:2)
And finger is a security nightmare when it works as designed, let's not even get into the lousy implementations of it.
Oh yeah? (Score:1)
"Being agressive is not evil", you say. Fine. The Linux crowd is also very agressive. When they find a non-free program they like, they try to clone it. This might piss the ones who wrote the non-free app, but then, like you said, it's capitalism...
"This pisses people off because you ruined their business." Like when some version of Windows had a fake error message when run in some non-Microsoft version of DOS? Even with the code to detect the OS hidden under several layers of anti-RE code, someone found out.
"My point is if you do not like it, write for another OS." This is exactly what we are doing. And this is exactly what Microsoft wants to prevent (remember the Halloween documents?). Also, this sentence showed you wrote before thinking; you're ranting.
After this point, you go on and on with non-clear thinking (first you say it's simple, then you say it isn't; then you rant about supporting other OSs when Free Software is the most ported kind of software (and we even have Windows versions of most of them)). Then you say that the problem with the LINUX crowd (why all caps?) is that they think that it is a new way of life/thinking (no we don't think that; we know it's older than proprietary software). Then you go on and say it's business plain and simple. Funny, where's my paycheck
Then you say that we should search for money only. But Free Software is not market-driven, it is driven by the needs of its users. And last, you mention someone I've never heard about, but fail to provide a link.
I hope you realize your cover blew up (posting as an AC is useless to disguise you're the same guy as some other random guy when you can't disguise your style and your way of thinking) and that you should stop. You won't win without a rational argument.
I could go on and on, but I left it as an exercise to the fellow slashdotters.
Re:Oh really? (Score:1)
This is getting ridiculous. (Score:1)
One slight problem: the site's been down. Not just once, not twice, but literally every damn time i try to go to their site, it's down. And not just busy like crack.linuxppc.org is...I can't ping it, and traceroute shows the only failure at the computer, so it's not like their router has gone down.
At this point, it seems that the Win2K box is down more than it's up. I realize this is beta software, but JESUS, give me a break. Imagine the kind of flak ebay would get if they were running Windows 2000 on their boxes right now.
If W2K is this easy to crash, who in their right mind is going to want to run it on any kind of enterprise solution? We've always known that UNIX offers better stability than NT, but it's never become as apparent than now.
Long live linux.
Re:Oh really? (Score:2)
Yes you can. If there's one thing MS has actually done reasonably WELL, it's made most of its newer GUI components scriptable from its scripting engine, which is also a modular architecture targeting a backend. Basically you're writing in Windows-Script, and VBScript, JScript, and even PerlScript. Python also works well in this area too. (Before you screech about PerlScript, Perl also supports Apple Events, it's never been a least-common-denominator thing). Then Macs have AppleScript, so it really leaves Unix and X toolkits out in the cold. Motif is kinda scriptable, but it's a joke. All the other toolkits are stone age.
NT's plenty scriptable, it just has a command shell that isn't capable of doing it on the fly, a scripting front-end that still requires three-letter file extensions to determine the language (and actually pops up a bloody SPLASH SCREEN), and of course you can't redirect I/O from status windows and such.
I wonder if Notepad STILL has a tiny file size limit? Been what, 10 years?
Re:Only where remote access != multiuser support (Score:1)
Re:Oh really? (Score:2)
Re:It is pretty hard to crack a site ... (Score:1)
Stan "Myconid" Brinkerhoff
Re:Only where remote access != multiuser support (Score:1)
Maybe, but it's a better holdover than using a letter designation for each drive volume.
>To the _vast_ majority of users and uses it has absolutely no use for a kernel to be fundamentally multiuser.
Microsoft don' need no stinkin' multiuser!
>However please note that Windows 2000 does have a multiuser kernel.
Oooo, users don't need mutiuser, but we'll give it to them just in case. How thoughtfull. But only if they shell out the big bucks for the 'Advanced' version.
>Although this is hard to fathom, most NT services allow administration through remote network (ex. TCP/IP) tools. DHCP, events, servers, services, DNS, WINS, Performance counters, etc. etc. etc.
Not hard to fathom, just not particulary usefull.
Event log-
A network error occured on the VPN between machineA and machineB.
Server manager for domains-
Try and find who has d:\data\datafile.idx locked,
when there are 300 people with files open and no way to sort, search, or even view more than five
open files at a time.
Services-
highlight 'www service', click stop, 'this service cannot be stopped because it is not currently running'. Start button remains greyed out.
Performance meter-
Try and figure out a way to get this to show _who_ is tying up all the bandwidth with proxy server.
>Having used both console tools and graphical tools, I will take the graphical tools anyday and can only chuckle at the script kiddies purporting themselves to have some sort of elitist knowledge because vi is their friend.
Hmph. GUI tools are more useful than console tools if you don't have a clue what you're doing. Or useing NT. Chuckle away, I do have elitist knowledge, and vi _is_ my friend.
>Bah.
Bah indeed.
Re:You need to be at the console, (Score:1)
Stan "Myconid" Brinkerhoff
Re:News from the MS underground, Naw, just an X em (Score:1)
NT is not based on DOS either. You're talking crap.
Simon
Re:It is pretty hard to crack a site ... (Score:1)
The JavaScript and META tag stuff on the Guestbook was posted through the Guestbook. They need to fix the Guestbook so that kind of thing no longer works; I'm shocked that they didn't do it right the first time (it's not hard to fix). This did not involve having root access to the machine.
In order to have root access, you have to either be at the local console, or you have to telnet in as another user (the account jcarr does exist, but I don't know the password) and then su to root and enter the root password, or you have to figure out some other way in (exploiting a bug in Apache or its CGIs, since that's the only other thing running).
For awhile, they had a message in
Re:Oh really? (Score:2)
I might note that although solaris's pkg* tools suck, that the database, such as it is, can be hand-edited such that I can put a new file under the ownership of an existing package or remove a single file from package control.
Re:Typical Bigotry...Give MS a fair shot... (Score:1)
(Or so the modified saying goes)
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Re:Its a matter of skill... (Score:1)
best NT remote managment tool (Score:1)
NetCat (Score:1)
I used to have a cgi script to start a netcat session from IIS, with some minor security provisions. Not really secure, but it wasn't always listening
But, if you start it through IIS, your rights are whatever the IIS (guest?) account is. You can start it as a service, but that is a gaping hole without a good wrapper.
Re:CRACKLINUXPPC - THEY ARE LIARS !!! (Score:1)
win2k vs LinuxPPC (Score:1)
Re:Oh really? (Score:2)
Orgs I've worked in licence MS stuff per Seat (not per Server/Workstation), so adding servers and the like have a minimal software cost. The big problem with NT Workstation is that it has an arbitrary limit on network connections (256?) that makes it unusable for application serving.
I really doubt many MS shops will run telnet (running to the server room keeps you in shape!) -but it's an option.
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pretty graphs of windows2000test vs linuxppc.org (Score:2)
At time of writing windows2000 is all 203 but hey...i understand this test runs for a month
Typical Bigotry...Give MS a fair shot... (Score:2)
Re: Typical Bigotry vs. excellent propoganda (Score:2)
Read "The Plot to Get Bill Gates" for another POV. Can't be any more biased than the first.
Already cracked? (Score:2)
Anyone? --
Re:Typical Bigotry...Give MS a fair shot... (Score:2)
I call that phenomenom "System Rot". Windows is notorious for rot. Actually the absolute worst offender is the mac, but remote reinstalls on a mac network were as easy as dragging the install folder from the master install server (which I just kept open) to the offending machine. Keeping an old configuration was similarly easy, just copy the system folder.
When I supported MS Exchange, it was fascinating how badly that application rotted. First the spellchecker went away, then some property pages here and there, and it would progressively decay until it was unusable, sometimes taking personal folders files with it. Thousands of Exchange users, five of us techs did an average of four exchange reinstalls a day.
I'll say one thing: most games these days actually respect the system. DirectX may be a developer's idea of a joke (every API call has the version number in the function name even though VC++ *does* do namespaces), but it does at least stay managed a lot better than the way installers simply overwrite files willy-nilly.
Peter Drucker (Score:2)
D
PS Anyone know why links don't work in comments anymore? Sigh.
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The uses of NT - and, dealing with a semi-PHB (Score:2)
The reason people buy in on NT is that there are billions of applications and server programs for it. It's pretty easy to write database-driven web sites in ASP or Cold Fusion, which I think is the main reason NT has acquired market share as a web server. Of course it's also easy to write the same applications using mySQL and PHP-FI or mod_perl, but these technologies are not well promoted in the marketplace.
I tried to convince one of the people I work with to consider PHP/FI. He said that he hadn't heard of it and it didn't have "market power". He wants to use the technologies that have "market power", whether they work or not. I guess the idea is that if clients have heard of a technology, it's an easier sell for him. I told him Apache is the number one web server. He wasn't convinced. Any idea how to convince him? I don't think he's a true PHB, but he does see things from a business perspective, not technical.
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Re:Again, who needs to crack it? (Score:2)
Strangely enough, on the one time I was able to access it, it was running really fast - maybe people were giving it a break. But I have tried many, many other times (including yesterday evening) without getting through. You're bound to be disappointed if you put much effort into it.
Someone did put up a mirror, though.
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Re:Oh really? (Score:2)
Yes, it provides you with the standard command.com shell and nothing more.
It can be useful to do things like remote pkzipping of files.
I believe you can get the Bash shell for NT, but you apparently have to add the whole suite of Unix command line tools in order for it to work.
Incidentally, please reply to this message if there's a free or at least cheaper NT telnet tool out there - I'm loath to pay $ 189 for it, and there are times when it would be helpful.
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Re:Oh really? (Score:2)
Put it this way - the company who tried to get rich selling a $200 telnet daemon for NT got put out of business about a year ago by Microsoft when MS released a free Telnet server.
Admittedly, users/seat licences still cost money.
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What I'd like to see (Score:3)
But unless you can tickle their cgi into running system commands and giving you a shell (or downloading/running BO2K) then it's all pointless. Microsoft figured it out and filtered out tags eventually; LinuxPPC will too.
The DOS attacks are annoying, but not completely worthless - it's interesting to see LinuxPPC pages come up after as much as a minute under the network spamming, while MS is unpingable for hours on end.
No - what I'd like to see is a page with traceroute stats - a script to probe their networks (routers, other computers on the same subnet, etc) repeatedly and save the results. Someone on Linux Today asserted that he could ping both MS's routers and other computers in the same 255.255.255.0, during the period when they "were having router problems". If he's right, then Microsoft is just plain lying to a whole lot of reporters and to the public - but we could hardly say so without evidence. If the script hit the main web pages regularly, that would be good too - there have been periods where the MS server was pingable but IIS wasn't responding.
I'd like to see this for both servers, of course. Someone said crack.linuxppc.org wasn't pingable once, but I tried 5 minutes after his comment was posted and both ping and Netscape (although slowly) got through.
It would be important to summarize the stats, of course. Neat graphs of things like percentage of dropped pings and timed out HTTP requests would be cool.
I'd do this myself, but I'm tired and lazy. If anyone else wants to do it with Perl and LWP, though, I'll help.
crack.linuxppc.org HAS NOT BEEN CRACKED (Score:2)
Simon
Not exactly (Score:3)
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Again, who needs to crack it? (Score:2)
(And LinuxPPC has always worked just fine, stupid javascript tricks aside.)
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Re:rpm *is* a command line tool (Score:2)
As for the previous person's comment about the registry, you should be able to write a script that exports the registry into a
Mind you the usual stupidity I run into with NT is institutional ("it doesnt come with the OS and it doesnt cost $10,000 or more so it must be an unstable hack"), and the fact that it has no decent out-of-the-box remote admin tools. Perhaps W2K will fix that, let's see if it can be kept from falling over as well.
Re:Typical Bigotry...Give MS a fair shot... (Score:2)
Even my linux system displays some instability over time, though it's often *forced* by applications demanding the latest bleeding edge gtk+ or whatnot (*cough*xmms*cough*). I've never really managed to cause that rot without root, except KDE has displayed some rot in that it will no longer come up with more than two desktops (I have six) despite saving preferences.
I guess the only way to really avoid it is to code to anal-retentively detailed and strict specifications. But that wouldn't be as "fun".
Re:Oh really? (Score:2)
W2K has a telnetd built in. Where'd you get the $200 figure?
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Re:Oh really? (Score:2)
As for bash, Cygnus has a whole UNIX environment for Windows - bash, DJGPP (gcc port), grep, ls, cat, and everything else.
hmm (Score:2)
The MS astro-turfers are out in force (Score:2)
Anyhow: NT *CAN* be remotely administered, but it is (of course) an additional product, and it doesn't work all that well due to the fact that NT wants you to reboot every time you sneeze. ("Your mouse has moved -- please reboot to make this change effective", heheh). Go look up SMS on Microsoft's site. It's a laugh. They are touting features like "capable of installing software onto remote machine" . Gosh, didn't know you needed extra software to do that with Microsoft software (Melissa, anybody?
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