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Court Rules GPL Doesn't Violate Antitrust Laws 80

unix4reel writes "Internet Cases reports on a new decision from a federal court in Chicago holding that 'the GPL and open-source have nothing to fear from the antitrust laws. The suit was against IBM, Red Hat and Novell, arguing that by distributing Linux for free, they offered products at an unbeatably low price (free), thus discouraging new market entrants and stifling competition. The court took a different view, focusing instead on how the GPL fosters new development."
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Court Rules GPL Doesn't Violate Antitrust Laws

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  • by mapkinase ( 958129 ) on Thursday November 09, 2006 @03:10PM (#16787995) Homepage Journal
    Long live common sense!
  • Unbeatable price? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09, 2006 @03:11PM (#16788003)
    I would contend that OSS released under GPL does have a price.. that is, accepting of the GPL itself. I think that you will find that some people may find that a steep price indeed.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09, 2006 @03:25PM (#16788103)
    So, some guy with no legal case loses to IBM's well paid legal team.

    IBM has both the law itself, and reams of money on their side. The other guy doesn't.

    This is about as close as it gets to an "open and shut" case.
  • What's this? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by keesh ( 202812 ) on Thursday November 09, 2006 @03:27PM (#16788119) Homepage
    What's this? A court that gets it and actually understands technology issues? Amazing.
  • What Price? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by CastrTroy ( 595695 ) on Thursday November 09, 2006 @03:28PM (#16788123)
    I would contend that OSS released under GPL does have a price.. that is, accepting of the GPL itself. I think that you will find that some people may find that a steep price indeed
    Unless you are comparing it to the BSD license, then there is no price. The GPL only restricts how you may redistribute the product. Most commercial software cannot be redistributed, so this is a non-issue. The GPL in no way inhibits your abilities to use the software.
  • by geoffspear ( 692508 ) on Thursday November 09, 2006 @03:35PM (#16788161) Homepage
    Umm, if you think that someone with no resources could be successfully prosecuted for violating antitrust laws, you probably don't understand antitrust law at all. If you're too small to harm your competitors though anti-competitive activity, then by definition you can't violate antitrust law.
  • by Zaphod-AVA ( 471116 ) on Thursday November 09, 2006 @03:38PM (#16788183)
    Challenging the GPL on those grounds was doomed to fail, because the GPL's intent, and the intent of copyright are the same.

    From the good ol' Constitution, Section 8:

    "Congress shall have the Power"... "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries"

    The whole reason we have copyright is to promote the useful sciences and arts, which is exactly what the GPL is for as well, they simply use different methods.
  • by Miseph ( 979059 ) on Thursday November 09, 2006 @03:46PM (#16788237) Journal
    Admittedly, I didn't RTFA, but if the summary above is at all accurate, and part of the argument is that GPL software being "sold" for free prevents new competition, then isn't the entire argument obviously flawed? Microsoft, Apple, Oracle, Blizzard, Adobe, etc. all make a killing on non-GPL software; is someone really going to try and tell me that GPL licensed software has made it too hard for them to compete?

    Besides, Linux "vendors" are really in the support business. Nobody is stopping anybody from opening up their own support business for any distro they want. It can't even be argued that the 'vendors" have some sort of unfair advantage because of exclusive access t5o the source code... because they are required to distribute it, for free, to anyone who wants it. Even direct competitors! The only barrier to entry for me from slapping a decal on my car and declaring myself a traveling Linux support tech for hire is that, well, I'd be a thoroughly useless Linux support tech. And blaming that on IBM just won't fly no matter how good my lawyer is.
  • by Eric Damron ( 553630 ) on Thursday November 09, 2006 @04:24PM (#16788455)
    Sorry, because of the database error we can't reply in a thread so I'll just reply here.

    geoffspear wrote: "Umm, if you think that someone with no resources could be successfully prosecuted for violating antitrust laws, you probably don't understand antitrust law at all. If you're too small to harm your competitors though anti-competitive activity, then by definition you can't violate antitrust law."

    IANAL but I don't think your statement is entirely accurate. I don't think a monopoly has anything to do with how much money you have or earn from your product. I could be wrong and if so I hope an actual lawyer will correct me but I believe that a monopoly is based on how much of a market share you control.

    It would seem intuitive that if you controlled a monopoly share you would have lots of income from that share but in the case of Open Source many companies give the software away for free and earn their income through support services/contracts etc.

    In a case like this your product could hold a monopoly share but if your services were not bringing in any money you could still be dirt poor.
  • by Mammothrept ( 588717 ) on Thursday November 09, 2006 @06:46PM (#16789411) Journal
    Anonymous Coward asserted:

    "The goodness of this victory is diluted by the fact that Wallace didn't have the money to properly argue his case. As such, it doesn't have much value as a precident. If someone with big bucks was making the argument, and if the GPL was being defended by someone with no resources, the decision could have gone the other way.

    Note that the bully boys of the RIAA always go after people who don't have the resources to defend themselves. Even then they lose the occasional case. Justice in this country goes to whoever can hire the best lawyers.

    Am I cynical? Yep."

    You and a lot of other people will be rereading bits of this opinion for years. It was written for law school textbooks as much as it was to dispose of this case.

    First off, it was a Court of Appeals decision, not a trial court. Second, it was Frank Easterbrook, a very well known and somewhat regretfully, well-regarded senior judge. He is a big in the Law and Economics school of judges and other judges pay attention to his stuff. He doesn't cream the plaintiff on something mundane like standing or another procedural issue. Instead, he deals clearly with the most basic antitrust and GPL philosophy issues imaginable. And he gets it right.
  • by Per Abrahamsen ( 1397 ) on Friday November 10, 2006 @05:06AM (#16791822) Homepage
    You don't have to accept the GPL if you are an end-user.

    The only people who have to worry about the GPL are those who are going to redistribute the code.
  • by ErroneousBee ( 611028 ) <ku.oc.kcocnahlien:lien> on Friday November 10, 2006 @10:40AM (#16793354) Homepage

    Users do not have GPL restrictions, only people modifying and distributing do.

    The only restriction that might conceivably hit a user is if they give away Linux CDs, or sell PCs with Linux installed, as they become liable to distribute the source too.

  • by BranMan ( 29917 ) on Friday November 10, 2006 @10:48AM (#16793444)

          Bzzzt! Wrong, thanks for playing. The GPL itself says, in plain english, that you did not have a chance to see the GPL beforehand, you did not sign anything, you do NOT have to 'accept' the GPL - the software is free to do with as you please. The only reason you need to accept the GPL is IF you are re-distributing it or distributing modified versions of the software - that is all the GPL covers. That's it. NO ONE just using GPL software has to accept the GPL at all.

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