Isn't that legalized claim jumping?

We need to trust these guys. They are after all scientists and therefore very smart and careful. I mean really. It's not like these guys would ever make a mistake that could cause this thing to slow too much and enter our atmosphere.

And even if they did, how bad would it really be. Just a crater 24 miles wide and trees 200 miles away would spontaneously burst into flames but hey, there is definitely a small chance that it will kill a lot of people. And after all this thing could be worth something like 25 trillion dollars! Isn't it the little peoples duty to risk and lay down their lives so that extremely rich people can get even richer?

" I could just about drive all the way across town and back on a charge."

Not just about. You could easily do it. The range you get in a LEAF depends on the speed at which you travel. Just like a gas car.

At 35 mph (city speed) the LEAF's range is around 130 miles. At 60 mph (freeway speed) the LEAF's range drops to about 78 miles. It drops to about 65 if you travel at 70 mph. So as you can see it's a perfect city car and not a bad car to go medium distances. It will be awesome when the network is in place to recharge these vehicles.

"For the Leaf they give 30 minutes for 30 miles using a faster charger."

No, that is not correct. The DC Quck Charger (The one that costs upwards of $40k but can be had for $16K) will charge the LEAF from flat to 80% in 25 minutes. You can go way farther than 30 miles with an 80% charge.

The Level 2 chargers will charge the current LEAF from flat to 100% in 7 to 8 hours. That will normally be done over night and you would not need to plug in at all to make a 60 mile round trip.

"Not impressed."

I think you mean "Not informed."

"The same people wanting us driving electric cars also don't want us building new power plants that would be required to support the additional load. "

Really?? Are you sure you're not just pulling that out of your @$$? Why yes, I thnk you are.

There already is a DC quick charge standard that is used on the Nissan LEAF and other EVs. It's called CHAdeMO. There are some stations already installed that use this standard.

This standard is widely adopted in Japan and the UK but the US auto makers don't want it. They are working on a single plug monstrosity. It is believed by many, myself included, that the people fighting the adoption of the existing standard would like to delay or kill the adoption EVs.

"Because if they have the same free will, the same free innovation and free thinking free spirited individuals as we do then they would by that logic have the same evil, the same murders and the same exploitation."

Sorry but your "logic" makes assumptions that are not necessarily true. There could be genetic reasons that we, as a race, are a bunch of warlike morons.

I have a four point plan that I guarantee will eliminate spam once and for all:

1. Find the spammers and kill them.
2. Find anyone buys spammer's services and kill them.
3. Find anyone who is stupid enough to allow their PC to become infected more than twice and kill them.
4. Find Steve Ballmer and Darl McBride and kill them.

Okay its actually a three point plan. I just added Ballmer and McBride because I don't like them.

Tux eats a piece of cake, begins bleeding from the ears, nose and mouth then falls over dead.

"I'd rather have the government be involved than have private entities colluding to create their own extra-legal framework. With the government, I have recourse to contest or change the law. With private entities, I'm practically a powerless serf. As messed up as things are in our republic now, I'll still take it over neo-feudalism"

Ummm.... You do realize that the government IS OWNED by these "private entities" right? You don't really believe that what our Congress and Senate is doing is in OUR best interest do you?

The government has become just one of the corporate muscles to be flexed.