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Senate Bill Would Make Clandestine Video Taping Illegal 880

happyclam writes "CNN says that Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA) is announcing a new combination bill that would do two things: (a) outlaw filming someone via hidden camera without their permission except in public places, and (b) provide for an adult-only domain such as .prn where all non-child-safe sites (pr0n, hate speech, etc.) would be relegated--the sites would have to give up their .com/.org/.net domains they own today. The first part makes sense, but the second clearly treads on free speech to some extent and will have a hard time going through, I imagine." I wonder if having an actor at the press conference is a new requirement for a bill to be introduced in congress.
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Senate Bill Would Make Clandestine Video Taping Illegal

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  • by Profane Motherfucker ( 564659 ) on Wednesday April 17, 2002 @03:11PM (#3360261) Journal
    Holy fucking shit! I'm on the telephone to my reps as soon as I get this profane fucking tirade hammered out.

    teenpussy.prn! What's next: restricting .mil and .edu domains only to legitimate military and educational institutions? The nerve of these scatmongers.
  • by richlb ( 168636 ) on Wednesday April 17, 2002 @03:12PM (#3360274)
    You've got your hate speech in my porn!
    You've got your porn in my hate speech!

    Introducing new ArianBabesInBondage.prn.

    Seriously, who would benefit from this? Serious adult-only sights wouldn't want to be identified with the KKK, and "hate speech" sites wouldn't want to be "adult only".
  • by mosch ( 204 ) on Wednesday April 17, 2002 @03:13PM (#3360284) Homepage
    and what if you run a site on how to detect breast cancer, by lubricating the breasts, then placing a penis between them and squeezing them together, feeling for lumps?
  • by LordKariya ( 195696 ) on Wednesday April 17, 2002 @03:13PM (#3360286)
    What is this chick thinking ? What's next, appointing a $95 million committee to study the effects of AnalSluts.com vs AnalSluts.prn ?

    They are Still Anal Sluts !
  • X10 Cam (Score:3, Funny)

    by Joe Jordan ( 453607 ) on Wednesday April 17, 2002 @03:15PM (#3360310) Journal
    I'm all for it if this bill makes the X10 advertisements illegal (since they display images of unsuspecting females in private places).
  • by Liora ( 565268 ) on Wednesday April 17, 2002 @03:16PM (#3360320) Journal

    This will eventually mean that in the event that /. is deemed unacceptable material or material that could potentially be harmful for minors, and in the event that all .prn sites are fire-walled at my office, I won't be able to read anything interesting during lunch.

  • by Joe U ( 443617 ) on Wednesday April 17, 2002 @03:18PM (#3360344) Homepage Journal
    But your Honor, we had a notice on display about the videotaping.


    "But the plans were on display....."

    "On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them."

    "That's the display department."

    "With a torch."

    "Ah well, the lights had probably gone."

    "So had the stairs."

    "But look, you found the notice didn't you?"

    "Yes", said Arthur, "yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked
    filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying
    'Beware of the Leopard'"!

    - Douglas Adams

  • by $carab ( 464226 ) on Wednesday April 17, 2002 @03:26PM (#3360446) Journal
    An open letter to those under-regarded /. members:
    This is a time of great chaos. But there is a threat even greater than terrorism and the CPDPTPDTA (sp). Yes, and that is goatse.prn
    What about "goatse.prn"?
    Well, think about the effectiveness as a new /. user foolishly clicks on a "funny" link. They're not really sure about goatse.cx, but you can be damn sure they won't click on goatse.prn. No more lulling n00bs into having a pleasant shock. I can say it in no stronger terms than this: If this law passes, /. trolls will lose a great deal of their "classic" material. You need to fight for rights!

    Send a letter to your congresspeople and senators asking to vote against this bill! Remember, "People come for the goatse.cx, not the goatse.prn!"

    For your convenience (probably to busy hitting "refresh", looking for first post, huh?), here is a sample letter.

    Dear congressperson,
    I am a pathetic loser who appreciates diluting valuable content with disgusting images. This gives me pleasure, and by passing this bill, you will be hurting my very livelihood. So when the time comes for you to vote, remeber:
    Think of the trolls, not the children.

    Thanks for your valuable time.
  • by Profane Motherfucker ( 564659 ) on Wednesday April 17, 2002 @03:27PM (#3360459) Journal
    They should stay in their own .mil.

    No fucking argument here. They have their own fucking play area and insist on futzing around with a .com site. I had fully intended on creating marines.com to be the fucking one stop shop for all things of or related to the sea, but those industrious mofos beat me to it.
  • by SETIGuy ( 33768 ) on Wednesday April 17, 2002 @03:33PM (#3360516) Homepage
    Now we need a law to remove the 'p' key from keyboards that could be used by children.
  • by Pope Slackman ( 13727 ) on Wednesday April 17, 2002 @03:35PM (#3360542) Homepage Journal
    They'll get my .net when they pry it from my cold, dead DNS record.

    C-X C-S
    I also have a .com, and a .org. Once I get an .edu, a .gov and a .mil,
    I'll have collected the whole set!
    Then they will all combine to form Voltron, and I'll rule the world!!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17, 2002 @03:48PM (#3360675)
    If I see a site named www.poon.prn, I won't know what it is until I load it.

    On the other hand, if you use a .cum domain...
  • by SyntheticTruth ( 17753 ) on Wednesday April 17, 2002 @03:49PM (#3360678)

    Oh?

    What about personal ("Ego") sites and hobby sites that don't fit as a .biz/.com or a .net? It's not a .org and it's not about .tv; maybe .info for hobby-type sites.

    Maybe we need a .ego tld. Heh.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17, 2002 @04:02PM (#3360788)
    I agree, I don't want my site being forced into a prn category because it happens to show nudity. Especially if it's benign. Let me say this loudly to make it clear: IT'S NOT UP TO THE GOVERNMENT TO LEGISLATE MORALITY. Maybe I don't mind my children seeing nude women, I don't see a huge problem with them seeing playboy, in my mind it's not skanky, and there's nothing wrong with the human body, and if I'm willing to let my kids see that, there may be other parents who feel it's to let their kids see racier stuff. That's up to them, and between the two of us it's our responsibility to make sure that neither of our children see what we don't want them to.

    The problem with Playboy is not the photographs, which are, as you point out, relatively benign. The problem is the cartoons. It is just wrong to expose children to such "entertainment" crafted (or, to be safe, emitted) by individuals with no detectable sense of humor.

  • by sugrshack ( 519761 ) on Wednesday April 17, 2002 @04:13PM (#3360889) Homepage
    That would depend on what your definition of "is" is.
  • by Elwood P Dowd ( 16933 ) <judgmentalist@gmail.com> on Wednesday April 17, 2002 @04:25PM (#3361006) Journal
    Ooh, good idea. I'm registering aryanbabesinbondage.com so I can sue *twice* when this law gets passed.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 17, 2002 @04:25PM (#3361008)
    but still, this would be messy

    Isn't that the whole point of the .prn domain?
  • by TygerFish ( 176957 ) on Wednesday April 17, 2002 @04:44PM (#3361161)
    I hope I'm one of the first to have found this.

    If surreptitious videotaping in the home is illegal, then evidence obtained by it is inadmissable in court.

    This leads to interesting potential solutions to problems in burglary: if you know the target's got a camera going, strip down to your thong and running shoes. At your trial, all that clear video of you filling bags with cash and heirlooms just goes away...

    This would seem to be the case, but I'm not a lawyer, anyone with a legal background have an opinion on this?

    On the second part of the bill: yeah, we're still seeing laws made by people who understand neither the technology, nor the global nature of the it.
  • X10? (Score:3, Funny)

    by after5 ( 451598 ) on Wednesday April 17, 2002 @04:48PM (#3361192) Journal
    Wait...this is good! No longer would we have to put up with X10 ads telling us to video tape the girl next door!

  • by Cato the Elder ( 520133 ) on Wednesday April 17, 2002 @04:51PM (#3361210) Homepage
    "You did read the article right?"

    You do realize your on Slashdot, right?
  • Re:.prn (Score:5, Funny)

    by Don Negro ( 1069 ) on Wednesday April 17, 2002 @05:04PM (#3361288)
    You know who used to have that job? The U.S. Supreme Court.

    Seriously, one of my professors at the University of Texas, Scot Powe, clerked for William O. Douglas. At that time lawsuits about what was and was not obscene were being filed individually, and the justices (or their clerks) had to watch each one to write a brief on it for the decision.

    Powe said the best part was walking out of one particularly bland showing with Thurgood Marshall, who turned to him and said, 'I think we need to send that one over to the FTC for false advertising.'
  • by JohnA ( 131062 ) <johnanderson&gmail,com> on Wednesday April 17, 2002 @05:56PM (#3361671) Homepage
    Kent Brockman: With our utter annihilation imminent, our federal government has snapped into action. We go live now via satellite to the floor of the United States congress.
    Speaker: Then it is unanimous, we are going to approve the bill to evacuate the town of Springfield in the great state of --
    Congressman: Wait a minute, I want to tack on a rider to that bill: $30 million of taxpayer money to support the perverted arts.
    Speaker: All in favor of the amended Springfield-slash-pervert bill? [everyone boos]
    Speaker: Bill defeated. [bangs gavel]
    Kent: I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply doesn't work.
  • by Wumpus ( 9548 ) <[IAmWumpus] [at] [gmail.com]> on Wednesday April 17, 2002 @06:08PM (#3361753)
    Why, is there another way?

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