Journal smittyoneeach's Journal: Senator Cotton and Kurt Schlichter 184
Every time a Republican won the presidency this century, Democrats tried to stop the certification.
Yet none of them faced criminal charges over what is obviously First Amendment protected activity.
In defense of Fanni Willis, her charges are no more garbage than the rest of the piffle on offer from the Democrats.
Schlichter seems equally unimpressed:
Some people ask me my legal opinion of these frame jobs masquerading as criminal cases. Well, I have no legal opinion of them because these have nothing to do with the law. When not invented out of whole cloth, they consist of inapplicable statutes stretched tighter than Nancy Pelosi's lifted and Botoxed face to try to encompass perfectly legal activities by people whose real crime is opposing the ruling class. And the accused aggravated their crimes by having succeeded for a time.
Do you think these laws only go one way? Do you think this precedent canâ(TM)t be used right back against you and yours?
Interestingly, we've been looking at the Saul/David transition in ancient Israel in Sunday School. Violence begets violence, and it is a hard thing to see every branch of government twisted, weaponized, and used to push people in completely unhealthy directions. Pray for peace.
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Democrats challenge Republicans in court then accept the court's ruling. Never once breaking the law.
Republicans challenge the Democrats in court, get laughed at for having no evidence and violating tons of court rules, hire hackers to break into election machines, riot, kill cops, and engage in a criminal conspiracy to present false electors.
Pretending that these things are similar demonstrates that you can not tell the difference between legal and illegal.
It is NOT about what you do, but how you do it. I
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Never once breaking the law.
The Democrats are arguably demolishing the idea of the law by criminalizing dissent, weaponizing institutions (FBI/DOJ), blowing off enforcement, and generally sowing anarchy throughout the land. But do go on.
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Oh please, ya can't single out the democrats... Anarchism means loss of authority. That's the last thing they want.
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Anarchism means loss of authority. That's the last thing they want.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/rahm-emanuel-reprises-never-let-a-crisis-go-to-waste-catchphrase-amid-coronavirus-pandemic [washingtonexaminer.com]
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I'm highly skeptical to what degree Trump is actually an outsider.
You say
here you are, still standing tall for the man.
You're operating deep in d_r's territory here.
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You show no real skepticism.
Ahhhhh, "real" skepticism. Your are such a closet d_r. I love you, man.
You still display too much faith in him.
For the bazillionth time, it's a farce, and faith in anything other than Jesus of Nazareth is straight up idolatry, but go on.
And saying that Perot was an outsider brings into question your definition of "outsider".
Perot was treated like an outsider. QED. Or are you going to do that thing you like to accuse me of, and complicate matters?
You can't make his kind of money
So, if you have a wealth requirement, please make it explicit. Then the goal posts will move to the backers. And yet you appear to cling feverishly to some Pollyanna vision of a Cincinnatus
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Oh, and..
faith in anything other than Jesus of Nazareth is straight up idolatry
Precisely what you are engaging in... pure, straight up idolatry.
Typically I have to go to d_r to find anything so personally offensive. Bravo.
Trump is simply *not* the meaning of life. I don't know how to strip the point down to any more bare essential.
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The part he played fits perfectly in this little stage play.
What precisely are you alleging, then?
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Question: how are we to nominate candidates and prove their non-stage play bona fides?
Would you seriously endorse a purely random selection of people to fill public offices?
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Under present circumstances, absolutely! I have even stated as much in previous comments. It is the better solution. Certainly better than your Article V. Jury duty, babe... If it works in the courts, it will work in political office
I'm willing to admit that Article V is fraught with peril for the reasons you site.
But its probability of success seems orders of magnitude better than a purely random choice.
The expected value of a purely random choice would have to be Joe Bauers [wikipedia.org].
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you are in denial about your abandonment of your professed values and faith
You and I need to spend some time in fellowship at church with an open Bible, and you need to be very, very specific about my purported failings ahead of getting too finger-wavy.
While I lay no claim to sainthood, having internet randos evaluate my Christian walk always comes of as unintentionally funny.
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its probability of success
is nil while your incumbents remain in charge.
Which is kinda the point I'm making. You behave as though the cancer in place isn't killing us. A shot of chemo has a chance of making a difference. But apparently you have prophetic powers that I lack.
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How will that [ref]ute your favoring of trumpism over your Christ?
Christ is the meaning of life. Trump is a bloke with a ridiculous combover and tedious speech patterns who is closer to death than birth. We write the year "2023" to commemorate a point of inflection in human history, not a President.
A century on, will non-historians recall Trump? Probably not.
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Mine is not "prophecy", it's plain logic.
Predictions about the future are not formal logic. Stop being silly.
Best I can do is: "You could prove correct."
What I do know is that our current course is unsustainable. Or maybe you have confidence in your Wall Street weenies to keep the system afloat. I don't know. If anything, the economy defies common sense (eschewing the "L" word here).
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Trumpism? or your Christ? You can only choose one
I chose Christ 40+ years ago.
Trumpism is so much flatus in comparison.
Joy is worth everything.
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you (together with d_r) will still vote to continue that course.
I have yet to hear any specific candidate, party, or platform alternative from you.
"None of the above", or an undervote, is a perfectly legitimate choice with your unit of political power at the ballot box.
But until you have joined that unit of power with other like-minded voters and coalesced around a viable platform, you vote so much pissing in the wind.
I've told you what could (potentially) break the deadlock, and all I get from you is so much bedwetting.
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Then why do you even consider trumpism when it is in such contradiction to your Christ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question [wikipedia.org]
To ATFQ anyway, check the Maslow-3D model: faith is orthogonal to politics. How is it you think that Trump is any more egregious than the rest of the cast in this farce, exactly?
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So, I should just follow the herd and play along to get along? Sorry, can't do that.
If one's purported remedies are feckless, might one be effectively playing along?
And besides, why aren't you taking your own initiative to seek out an a real alternative?
My least-worst answer was Article V, yes. The RNC/DNC are private corporations with a death grip on the ballot. The best an, e.g., Green party can do is play spoiler.
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Do you believe we are still just animals?
I believe that we are body, mind, and soul. The body is pure animal, and your model is pure reductio ad herdam as far as I can discern. But that doesn't account for the more aesthetic aspects of human behavior.
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Just because it was said on twitter ... (Score:2)
And to really make it an apples to apples comparison, what did the losing candidate themselves do to try to stop it? I certainly don't recall a candidate stirring up a violent uprising but maybe the mainstream media just didn't cover it? I don't recall a candidate asking for a swing state to
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The tweet did not provide any information for that.
Knowledge abounds, but must be sought. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/07/13/rnc_video_democrats_long_history_of_denying_election_results.html [realclearpolitics.com]
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Doesn't mean it's true. When did democrats try to stop the certification in 2016, 2004, 2000, or any other previous election? What did they do to try to stop it? The tweet did not provide any information for that.
And to really make it an apples to apples comparison, what did the losing candidate themselves do to try to stop it? I certainly don't recall a candidate stirring up a violent uprising but maybe the mainstream media just didn't cover it? I don't recall a candidate asking for a swing state to conjure up more ballots to swing the vote, either.
Knowledge abounds, but must be sought. https://www.realclearpolitics.... [realclearpolitics.com]
The questions I asked - which I have quoted here to remind you what the questions were - were "When did democrats try to stop the certification in 2016, 2004, 2000, or any other previous election? What did they do to try to stop it?".
I did not see any answers to any of those questions in your video montage. There were a couple video clips of Al Gore stating his belief that he won Florida in 2000, but not once did he encourage anyone to overturn the Florida count or to stop the certification of the Ele
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OK, so you move the goalposts on "try".
They sure as hell didn't achieve it. And your team has sacked the capitol to try to stop the counting. I'm giving you the leeway of showing me where they tried - as in, put in some sort of effort - and you can't come up with it. You can't come up with it because nothing the democrats have ever done even begins to compare to what your team has done.
Regardless, your claim of moving the goalposts is invalid. My original question included the word try. I quoted my own question, that started this threa
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And your team has sacked the capitol to try to stop the counting.
Oh, come on, girl, you can fap that Fedboi Op harder than that!
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To be fair, that's what one expects in a post-Constitutional state.
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he opportunity to paint them as evil.
Quite Evil, Daily. (QED)
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You're the one who wants to burn it all down because you don't get your way
I'm far from the only one who doesn't get their way when it comes to insurance. It would be hard to even begin to quantify the number of people who get fucked over by the health insurance industry each year. The system is broken, and can never be repaired. The only remedy is to destroy it.
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I'm far from the only one...
Ah, so that makes arson ok then?
Has it still not occurred to you that the notion of burning something to the ground can also be metaphorical, and not involve actual fire? The system needs to be destroyed but that doesn't mean that the people running it need to themselves be killed or injured in the process.
The system is broken, and can never be repaired.
You're so full of it, you broke it yourself.
It's impossible for me to do anything more to destroy the system. It is fully entangled with the government.
You reelect crooks and liars for "compromise".
I can vote for one house member, two US Senators, one governor, and one POTUS. Even if I vote exclusively for people who w
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Like I tell Mr. Smith, you alone are responsible for the choices you make, but you both choose to follow your respective herds
To which I absolutely agree. Yet, to pretend coercion does not occur and inform behavior substantially undermines your point.
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Has it still not occurred to you that the notion of burning something to the ground can also be metaphorical, and not involve actual fire?
Oh please!
Burning their buildings to the ground would be - at best - counterproductive. The buildings are insured, and the cost of replacing them would ultimately be born by policy holders. As much as I want the morally bankrupt insurance industry to self destruct yesterday, setting their buildings alight would not accomplish that.
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You are using "coercion" as an excuse. Do you have a gun to your head?
Literally? No. Metaphorically? Well, my pain threshold is probably higher than most, and I can fast (on an acute basis) for at least 36 hours without ill effects.
Projecting my relative physical/economic hardiness on others would be a Dick Move, though.
Are you comfortable deciding how much is "enough" suffering for others?
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As much as I want the morally bankrupt insurance industry to self destruct yesterday, setting their buildings alight would not accomplish that.
That does not contradict what you wrote. You obviously value violence more than the power of the vote. That you don't use that power and blame others for your choice to follow the herd makes no difference
Again, I only get to vote for one house member. The others are voted on by other people in other places. Even if I vote for a candidate who wants to bring about single payer that won't change the fact that that the overwhelming majority of other other house members belong to the insurance industry.
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I don't vote against a fascist, I can end up helping the fascists rise to power.
I mean, the fascists could do all kinds of things, from mandating vaccinations, to locking down the economy, to taking away peoples' right to self-defense, to regulating away citizens' choices for energy usage at home or on the road...
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supporting the same status quo, the same incumbency of the ruling Party.
This may seem counter-intuitive, but get this: elections are not about "[your] individuality, and [your] belief... in personal freedom." [quotes.net] There has to be some sort of Party to harmonize ideas and coalesce around (viable) candidates.
Inevitably, those Parties come to represe
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How do you hold all those false flags at one time?
For advice on false flag maintenance, I would consult a Democrat, that being their super power.
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Prohibiting people from forcing us to eat and drink and breathe poison is not fascism.
Fascism is anything that d_r's zampolit did not approve.
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Only while we continue to think and act like animals do we need the alpha.
Your posts on here have argued absolutely no alternative whatsoever to animal behavior that I can recall. You've (a) rejected my suggestions, and (b) proffered nothing instead as a direction. Or is life just a random walk [wikipedia.org] in your telling?
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Not sure that I can reject Your Team more thoroughly.
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Of all the cases you have called false flag I cannot think of a single one that turned out to actually be false flag. Yet you just gave a grocery list of false flags yourself, cases of things that never happened or never will happen. You carry many flags for your team.
For starters, Hunter's Laptop.
I don't recall you ever calling Hunter's Laptop a false flag. Though much like others who help you cheer for Your Team you keep telling us that Hunter's Laptop will somehow bring down the entirety of the Democratic Party, and with that bring about an eternity of awesomeness when Your Team takes the permanent helm of the US government.
In reality we don't know enough about what's on said laptop to know if you're waving yet another False Flag here or not.
topics such as the climate, Covid, economics, gender, race, and faith. Your Team is more or less thoroughly false on every topic, every time
Climate? We've broken global temperature reading
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the goal is the same, keep the status quo alive
The status quo is quite literally dying in real time. Need a refresh. It's that simple.
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you are still evading the fundamental natural forces that prompt you to do so
I am instructed that "fundamental natural forces" are just "excuses; dodges; complexities injected to obfuscate and deny". Am I doing fustakrakitch correctly?
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On the contrary, it is thriving, flourishing, with your collective input it is growing more vigorous.
The only thing flourishing is the budget deficit, but we don't usually attach "flourishing" to a negative factor like the defict.
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Trickle down didn't work, doesn't work, and won't work.
Trickle down is still here, only because your democrats did nothing to reverse it.
Actually Clinton did reverse it in part. Then of course GWB amped it up when he occupied 1600 Pennsylvania. President Lawnchair said he would reverse it, and then caved in to GOP demands that resulted in only very minor changes until Trump came and amped it up even more.
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Any attempt to model reality as having more than one dimension was "obfuscating", I thought.
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You still believe the "deficit" is real
The government spending more than it takes in *is* a deficit, yes?
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We have to take it back. Start with killing the 501c and most other deductions. Restore the tax rates from the 50s. Tax the people that can afford to pay.
I'm no apologist for the iron rod of oppression that is the U.S. tax code, but your sloganeering amounts to so much flatus. There will be no reform of the tax code without either a total crash or Article V. The same forces that filter out reformer candidates are entrenched against substantive improvement in the system. But excellent job on the wishful thinking, boss.
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If you won't read and understand what I write, I get no "points".
It's not as though you've understood anything I've written, either, if you can't differentiate between Jesus Christ and Donald Trump.
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I said they are direct opposites
That would make Trump equal Satan, which he rather clearly is not. No, you haven't understood anything I said, but it may not be intelligible outside a Christian context. And that's OK. As a purely intellectual matter, Christianity is gobbledygook. We're good.
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My eyes! The Google does nothing!
You need a Wide Soup Rim Assist.
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That racism/sexism are decisions based upon the content of those chromosomes?
There are entire business models and legal theories predicated upon obfuscating that point, but there it is.
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It's all pure instinct, a display of animal psychology. You all are showing me that reason/rational is a human fantasy.
How, and I'm genuinely baffled here, do you support any personal responsibility/moral agency?
Life is either pure chemical reaction, OR we have some no-kidding rationality/intellect that can undertake value judgements.
As with a sine wave, you seem to oscillate between these positions.
Your response, I guess, is that I have engaged in some "magical" thinking by thinking about thinking, or something?
Your position sincerely fascinates me, sir.
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I do recall watching the Florida votes get counted, and recounted, and then stopped by the SCOTUS.
Garbage like this is why I gave up trying to take you seriously. https://www.factcheck.org/2008/01/the-florida-recount-of-2000/ [factcheck.org]
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I do recall watching the Florida votes get counted, and recounted, and then stopped by the SCOTUS.
Garbage like this is why I gave up trying to take you seriously. https://www.factcheck.org/2008... [factcheck.org]
What part of my statement that you quoted was refuted in the article you linked to? In the article they mention in the first paragraph:
even if the U.S. Supreme Court had allowed a limited statewide recount to go forward as ordered by Florida's highest court
Which supports the statement that votes were being recounted, and that the SCOTUS stopped it.
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if Lieberman (the guy behind that new "no labels" gag) wasn't on the ticket
Probably, but counterfactuals and $5 will get you coffee down 'the Starbucks.
Trump was Oath bound to investigate the election (Score:2)
Trump was not only allowed to dispute an election he felt was fraudulent, but as president was constitutionally obligated to do so; that is the opposite of criminal — In fact, he is one of the only public officials willing to uphold the oath he swore.
https://www.americanthinker.co... [americanthinker.com]
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Trump DID dispute the election. He did it over and over and over in court. And lost in court.
That's when he started breaking the law. He had no obligation to break the law and took no oath swearing to break the law.
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He did it over and over and over in court. And lost in court.
Please cite a specific case that went to trial. Any case.