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Posted by michael on Wed Feb 02, 2000 12:59 AM
from the buy-a-lot-of-ramen-noodles dept.
FreshGroundPepper writes "A few friends and I are in the process of starting up a new software company. (We are compiling our business plan now) With the vast amount of software/startup experience among the /. crowd, we were wondering what kind of potholes and advice our fellow geeks could lend in the way of generic do's and don'ts in the early stages of the game. I'm not looking for legal advice so much as just any gotchas that others have run into."
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  • the 7P principle by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:29PM
  • Social Responsibility by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:48PM
  • Get it in writing by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @09:57PM
  • Get a really good attorney by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @11:54PM
  • Business Plan site by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @01:52AM
  • Balance by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @04:19AM
  • Re:Look at Extreme Networks by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @04:58AM
  • Marketing!! by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @05:34AM
  • What compiler? by Anonymous Coward (Score:2) Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:13PM
  • OPEN SOURCE ADVICE by Anonymous Coward (Score:2) Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:42PM
  • Recommendations: by Anonymous Coward (Score:2) Wednesday February 02 2000, @04:00AM
  • Re:WWJD by Anonymous Coward (Score:2) Wednesday February 02 2000, @05:02AM
  • Re:Experienced Old Farts! by Anonymous Coward (Score:2) Wednesday February 02 2000, @09:10AM
  • Management (uhg!) (Score:3)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:13PM (#1312744)
    I don't know what you guys are doing, but I am having difficulty with management of people, specifically techs that are much older than I am. (I'm 22) We have one that is 40ish, and comes from a completely different background. He seems to vent is frustration by bad mouthing the company & my boss. I try to point out that all he has to do is bring up his concerns in a constructive manner & they will be addressed, but he dosn't see it that way.

    It's pretty hard to RTFM when there isn't a FM.

    Don't know if that helps, but I feel better now that I've vented a little bit. ;-)
  • Things to avoid... (Score:3)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:31PM (#1312745)
    Since you're a startup software company, you face some rather unique challenges. However, there are some pratfalls which are common to avoid:
    1. Do not split your office into multiple locations. If the engineers are in one location, and the sales and marketing people in another, there's going to be a lot of miscommuniation.
      With all the people under one roof, you run less of a risk of having situations get out of hand, and they can be resolved quicker.
    2. Be very selective about whom you hire.
      At a startup, everyone has work hard and be good at what they do; your personnel resources will be stretched so thin that everyone has to be the best at what they do in order to get things done.
    3. Avoid meetings whenever possible. When not possible, take notes, and circulate them afterwards. That way there is no miscommunication about what was agreed upon at the meeting.
    4. If you are going to be distributing your product over the Internet as an evaluation copy or shareware program, avoid the CNet trap.
      Linking your download page through them is a waste of time. It makes your software that much harder to download, and when you try to release a new version, you have to wait for them to update your links. If you want to know how many people download your software, audit your ftp logs.

    There are other considerations, of course, and some of these may not even apply to you. But I hope that's enough to get you started. Good luck with your venture!

    Regards,

    Aryeh

  • You should... (Score:4)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:11PM (#1312746)

    ...ask for advice from random chuckleheads on the net. You can check that box off now.

  • Thoughts... by Pierce (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @02:52AM
  • Re:You should... by Micah (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @04:42PM
  • by Shaheen (313) on Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:35PM (#1312749) Homepage
    As stupid as it sounds, there are seminars on this stuff. I mean *lots* of seminars.

    For instance, at Carnegie Mellon, there's this seminar series going on right now that has people who graduated from CMU and talk to people about how to start your own business. I went to one such talk from a guy (sorry, forgot his name) that founded a biomedical engineering firm, and is now starting up a .Com company dealing with education.

    That's besides the point, but his lecture had some great tips. Here's a few that I can remember (this was almost a year ago, so bear with me):

    • BE PARANOID. His words: "I don't care what your idea is, or how novel you think it is - someone else out there is doing something like it."
    • Move fast. This follows from part one - if you let the other guy get out there before you, that just shows you're lazy to the average joe.
    • Go to consumer trade shows / set up public opinion booths. Now, this to me sounded pretty stupid, but it makes a lot of sense. BEFORE diving into this company, make sure there's a substantial market! Actually go out and ask people "Would you be interested in a product that..."
    • Use every resource possible to advertise. As greedy and underhanded as it seems, it's the only way you are gonna get the business of the ground. For instance, the guy talked about how he's using his competitor's e-mailing list as a way to advertise his own business (the way the competitor funded the list was advertising, so...)


    That's all I can think of right now... there's a lot to do to start up a business. And even if we all hate them, business people are the right people for the job to get your business going before it gets out of hand. Remember, while a geek may be able to code up his app, being able to juggle licensing and coding is a big responsibility.
  • Re:Take it from one who knows... don't buy cheap by Tony Shepps (Score:2) Wednesday February 02 2000, @08:57AM
  • Just Another Sucker On The Vine by Chris Johnson (Score:2) Wednesday February 02 2000, @01:50PM
  • Wrong. A good business plan is essential. by Telcontar (Score:2) Tuesday February 01 2000, @09:10PM
  • Re:Management (uhg!) by bluGill (Score:2) Wednesday February 02 2000, @11:50AM
  • Management ios key (Score:3)

    by bluGill (862) on Wednesday February 02 2000, @04:25AM (#1312754)

    Its been said that more buisnesses fail due to bad management then all other reasons combined. This is true, so get good management. Techies who are barely compitent can get the job done if management recignises their weakness and plans for it. (note that I'm not suggesting you get less then the best techs)

    Watch the cash flow. Every month get a summery of all the money you have, and how much you spent. Get it noterized as correct every three months. (a previous poster mentioned that bogus books were showed to him - make sure you have a good case for a law suit if the books are bogus) Don't take anyone's word for how well you are doing. Bad management will show up in cash flow first so know what the bottom line is. After a few months you should get a feel for how much you normally spend. Once you have a general idea figgure out if you have enough money to make it to release.

    My dad got involved in a spin off with 15 others, and a product that was pulling in 15 million/year and would for the next 5 years. They looked at the cash flow one month and decided to send my dad out as a contractor for a week. They needed cash flow now, and even though they would get 15 million this year, money in july (or whenever) doesn't pay the bills until then. They had to make a choice when doing this, and it means that their next version will be a couple weeks latter, but at least they won't go belly up with lots of money coming in latter. (Fortunatly the manager that arranged that spin off "quit for personal reasons" a few months latter - I own stock in and work for the parent company I was not happy about losing that income stream)

    BTW, you have heard that 50% of all buisness fail in the first year. I just read in the news paper (but I can't remember which one, so you should research this or call it hear-say) that 85% of startups make it.

    Good luck.

  • Re:It's the cash-flow stupid ... by cwinters (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @04:32AM
  • Re:Incorporating? Where? by On Lawn (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @09:54PM
  • Liability Concerns by On Lawn (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @10:05PM
  • Re:Related question by richieb (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @02:35AM
  • Are there any helpful sites out there? by chirayu (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @09:06PM
  • Re:Several pieces of advice by Darchmare (Score:2) Tuesday February 01 2000, @11:55PM
  • Practice thrift by rho (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @02:42PM
  • Re:Don't hire some east coast banker to be your CE by Jeffrey Baker (Score:2) Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:18PM
  • Re:Get things on paper by Jeffrey Baker (Score:2) Tuesday February 01 2000, @10:30PM
  • by Jeffrey Baker (6191) on Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:16PM (#1312764)
    The only rule I would offer is:

    Rule #1: Don't Sell Out

    That doesn't sound very hard, but it is. You have a great idea today. You have ideals and standards. Soon, the pressure to make money will test your morals. Maybe you could IPO bigger and sooner if you hired some banker fuckbag to be your CEO, and if you let him hire his gang of hangers-on to be your executive management team. Maybe you could make extra money by selling your customers' private information. Maybe engineering is too expensive and you should just outsource the whole thing to Andersen Consulting or whoever.

    The love of money will make you abandon all of your now-lofty ideals. Stick to your moral guns and you will be much happier and, eventually, more successful. History might even remember you. You may have to wait a few years or even decades before success hits. That's the price of happiness.

    -jwb

  • Be careful! by KlomDark (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @05:45AM
  • Do something else first. by stanis (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @07:46AM
  • First and Foremost (Score:3)

    by FFFish (7567) on Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:12PM (#1312767) Homepage
    Read Steve McConnell's "Rapid Application Development" and "Code Complete."

    With those in hand, you'll be much more prepared to organize a software project that achieves its goals on-time and on-budget, has the functionality needed by its end users, and is maintainable over the long term.

    He bases his writing on hard fact: innumerable studies have been done that indicate what works and what doesn't in the programming and in managing programmers. Learn from the mistakes others have made before you!

    And I suppose I'd best disclaim that it would be utterly foolish to dismiss these books out-of-hand simply because they are printed by Microsoft Press. I caution against being a simple-minded naysayer; if the books are no good, prove it by reading them.

    ('cause they'll influence you for the better, regardless what you think!)


    --
  • Duh.... by LarsWestergren (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @10:26PM
  • Re:You want Gamasutra by LarsWestergren (Score:1) Thursday February 03 2000, @12:17PM
  • You want Gamasutra (Score:3)

    by LarsWestergren (9033) on Tuesday February 01 2000, @10:19PM (#1312770) Homepage Journal
    You want the site Gamasutra [gamasutra.com]. They have articles on everything that is interesting both for experienced and new developers - programming, marketing, which platform to choose, how to do good plots, legal issues, sound, graphics, etc...

    Some current articles:

    Postmortem: Zombie's SpecOps: Rangers Lead the Way [gamasutra.com] by Wyeth Ridgway [02.01.00] This third-person combat sim had to deliver up to 10,000 polygons per frame at real-time frame rates all while upholding rigorous standards of realism. Lead programmer Wyeth Ridgway discusses the features of the Viper engine created for SpecOps as well as what went right and wrong in development.

    Optimizations Corner: An Optimized Matrix Library in C++ [gamasutra.com] by Haim Barad [01.31.00] In this installment of the Optimizations Corner, Haim Barad discusses a better way to manipulate vectors and matrices using Intel's Streaming SIMD Extensions. In this article they present a set of optimized matrix routines that take advantage of SIMD architectural enhancements done to recent microprocessors which are a perfect fit for matrix and vector operations.

    Artistic License: Acquiring, Managing and Dealing with Licenses (and Making Them Profitable) [gamasutra.com] by Elizabeth J. Braswell [01.25.00] So you're thinking about trying the Sure Thing: to go after a popular character, TV show, book or movie, get the license, spend a little, make a million. There's just one catch - it isn't that easy. Elizabeth J. Braswell discusses the stickier details of acquiring a license, working with the licensor, creating an innovative product which will appeal to fans and even sublicensing - creatively making more than you expected.

    Planning and Directing Motion Capture for Games [gamasutra.com] by Melianthe Kines [01.19.00] Motion capture is a great tool for creating animation for certain types of games. Like any tool or piece of software, if you learn how to use it properly, it can make your life easier and produce great results, but if you try to wing it, chances are you'll end up wasting time and money and may come away with nothing useful. Melianthe Kines discusses motion capture in depth.

    ************************************************ ***

  • Have clear, articulated, attainable goals. by Some guy named Chris (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @02:56AM
  • Deirdre's Rule of Management by deeny (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @08:12AM
  • Funding by PureFiction (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @06:04AM
  • by The Dodger (10689) on Wednesday February 02 2000, @06:40AM (#1312774) Homepage

    When compiling a business plan, I would advise using either gcc or egcs. I'd also make sure that you haven't left any buffer overflows in the code, because the last thing you want is some hacker coming along.... ;-)

    D.

  • Re:Incorporating? Where? by Axe (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:39PM
  • LEAD!! by Lysol (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @07:59AM
  • Avoid overpromising new clients by Jerico (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @12:44AM
  • MAKE BACKUPS! (Score:4)

    by Zico (14255) on Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:31PM (#1312778)

    A start-up that I'm involved with was already in the process of meeting with Vulture Capitalists, and I get a panicked call saying that the server had gacked, and asking if I could do anything to save the data. Then I'm told that there are no backups whatsoever. Ouch. So I'm thousands of miles away, trying to recover the entire operation from a roasted hard drive on a computer which would no longer even boot, not even enough to install an OS (this was a RH Linux 6.1 box) on a different partition. Eventually I was able to get almost all the data back, including all the really critical stuff, after I had him put the hard drive on a different computer, but for a few hours there, everyone was sweating bullets. I can only imagine the reaction if investors dropped in on us while this Keystone Kops episode was going on. I have that mental image of one of those cartoons where a bag of money sprouts wings and flies away.

    Hardware failure doesn't always happen to "someone else." Make those backups.

    Cheers,
    ZicoKnows@hotmail.com

  • by Citrix (14447) on Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:33PM (#1312779) Homepage
    Back as freshmen in college my best friend and I started a little web hosting and design company. Nothing big and probably smaller than you want but it brings in a nice steady small flow of cash. We decided to incorporate as an s-corp in Florida. Overall I think it was a good move for us. We learned a lot.

    Neither of us knew anything so we went to city court house and started asking questions. A month or two later we were a company. We only stared with about $2,000 so it must not have costs much. I think our biggest expense was a lawyer which I think we could have gotten by without one but it was nice to have someone make sure we didn't get things too wrong. The government won't tell you until it is too late (or so I hear)

    I don't keep all the records (my partner does, thank god, and I just know enough to make sure the numbers add up about right) but I can tell you it is very important to keep good records of everything. We were slack for about 4 months and it is still a big headache almost a year later.

    I don't know if this applies to y'all but my partner and I had to learn to trust the other to make business decisions with out the other. We were running everything past each other and there is nothing like a committee to stop progress when you need to get your feet under you asap.

    Hope this helps some.
    Citrix
  • Start-up Sausages by ddt (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @09:47AM
  • Advice.. by Bowie J. Poag (Score:2) Tuesday February 01 2000, @09:31PM
  • Re:Experienced businessmen by Surak (Score:2) Wednesday February 02 2000, @06:05AM
  • Re:Profit isn't the only thing by Surak (Score:2) Wednesday February 02 2000, @05:30PM
  • by Surak (18578) <surak&mailblocks,com> on Wednesday February 02 2000, @03:12AM (#1312785) Homepage Journal
    Couldn't agree more.

    There are four "cornerstones" a business really needs to be built on: sales/marketing, administration, accounting/finance and production (product or service). If any of these cornerstones are weak, your building (business) will come crashing down.

    Most people make the basic mistake of assuming that a great product will make a great business. This is a myth! Look at McDonald's, which is pretty much the world's largest fast food chain. OK: All those who think McDonald's makes the greatest burgers you've ever tasted raise your hands! What? Nobody? (Actually, I'm sure I'm going to get SOME loser who's going to say that McDonald's burgers are awesome. Go away...:)

    McDonald's Corporation is big and successful for a few reasons: great marketing is surely one of them. But they also have a business administration system by which any McDonald's franchise is basically guaranteed to make money if they follow the system to the letter. Cost controls are in place. Training, hiring, and managing employees are all part of this system. Accounting systems are part of it. These things are all first-rate and tailored for McDonald's line of business. And these seemingly "boring" business tasks can make or break your organization.

    I know what you might say: "But McDonald's make burgers and we're making software!" Software Shchmoftware. A widget is a widget. All businesses are about making money and the product is only a means of doing that. Your key management -- the people in charge of business administration, accounting/finance, and marketing, are people that should not be "in love" with the product. Leave that to your people who are making the software. People who are "in love" with the product will be blinded by it, not seeing the forest for the trees. Those three cornerstones must be as strong as (or even stronger than) your product cornerstone.

    I'm a person who's written business plans and seen business startups fail. And I have also seem them succeed. And I can tell you that the most important thing to keep in mind is to realize that when you are building a business, you are putting everything on the line. Build your business on a strong foundation and you will succeed. Ignore one of those cornerstones and you will most certainly fail. Prepare now, because you don't want to be chasing fires later.

    Good Luck,
    Rob

  • Some notes from the front by katy (Score:2) Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:48PM
  • Re:If your going into software by sec (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @09:36PM
  • Read Nudist on the Lateshift by CerebusUS (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @11:53PM
  • Re:Several pieces of advice by Kaa (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @05:15AM
  • never trust the VCs by jslag (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @06:45AM
  • Profit isn't the only thing by Gallowglass (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @07:52AM
  • An article worth checking out by salmi (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @06:18PM
  • Fun With Grammar by Sebbo (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @05:52AM
  • Re:Experienced businessmen by chandoni (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @04:12PM
  • Re:Experienced businessmen by mistabobdobalina (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @09:26AM
  • Show me love! (Score:5)

    by Krusty Da Klown (29575) on Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:22PM (#1312797)
    One of the most important things is to spend the extra dough to hire competent people. I've been with three startups and they've all failed to do this in one way or another.

    The first startup didn't hire anyone, so it never got off the ground. Lesson: If the existing staff is already working their collective ass off for you, and there's more work in the queue, get more people. The trick here is to not hire more people than you need.

    The second company managed to hire an extremely talented staff for below industry-standard wages, due to the lure of the stock, but failed to keep this staff by awarding 3% raises to everyone in the company. By giving the top performers the same amount of raise and stock options as those not performing to the same level, the company all but assured that the talent would leave in droves. And they did. Lesson: A little extra money in the right place goes a long way to keep your talent.

    The third company had a mostly incompetent staff and was the most aggravating company to work for out of the three. The handful of competent people there carried the load of the greater numbers of slackers, whiners, and incompetants. Lesson: It doesn't take too many bad apples to ruin the whole bunch.

    I'd say besides what I already mentioned, one of the most important things to keep in mind is that an employee who wants to be at work, will be willing to go the extra mile to make it succeed.

    I hope this helps. There are alot of hard lessons to be learned in the land of startups. Unfortunately the only way anyone learns anything is to fuck up and adjust accordingly.

    Good luck.
  • Sources for funding, PR, etc by rjreb (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @05:59AM
  • Re:Experienced businessmen by topham (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @05:03PM
  • This is why I love slashdot by segmond (Score:2) Wednesday February 02 2000, @04:04AM
  • Re:Don't hire your friends by Confused (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @04:59AM
  • Re:Management (uhg!) by Arashi (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @01:43AM
  • Re:Avoid using proprietary languages! by catfood (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @01:57PM
  • Re:Experienced businessmen by waynea (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @05:59AM
  • Cash Flow and Go for the Close by WillAffleck (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @07:29AM
  • Re:WWJD by vladkrupin (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @09:14AM
  • by Simon Brooke (45012) <simon@jasmine.org.uk> on Wednesday February 02 2000, @12:43AM (#1312807) Homepage Journal
    I've been reading through what's already been written, and much of it's good advice. There are some things I would add:

    Go with people you trust

    I've done this three times, and twice come unstuck because of failures of trust between the technical people and the finance/sales people.

    In the first case we were in a long development cycle for a product. The finance director kept giving us reports which said, yes, things were tight, but we were solvent and could do it. If he hadn't, we'd have diverted effort into consulting, which would have made a bit of immediate income.

    In the end, just as we were about to launch the product, we ran out of money very hard. The finance director (who was experienced, and a personal friend) had been keeping two sets of books, and showing the rest of the team doctored figures. His excuse? 'If you'd known how bad things really were, you have gone off and done other things and we'd never have got the product finished'. Well meant, but not helpful.

    In the second, the marketing director, a very experienced businessman introduced to us by the local business development agency, tride to bribe a local government representative to get a us contract. After we'd launched product, as sales were taking off, when we were already nicely profitable. Well meant, but very, very stupid.

    If you're east of the Atlantic, don't waste time with VCs

    I could not possibly count the hours I've put in to trying to raise venture capital. With excellent business plans - I had a business plan for Web auctions fully fleshed out and costed back in 1996, for example - competent key people, all that was needed (except finance) to make the project fly. It's just a complete waste of time, here in the UK. UK Venture Capitalist houses are extremely cautious and do not like either technical projects or geeks. If you invested that same amount of time in development that you waste hunting VC, you'd get your product to market.

    I know only three groups who've successfully gone down the VC route, two from here in Scotland, one from France. All three moved their whole companies to California, first.

    Don't take it too seriously

    But finally, remember that it's a gamble, a chancy game. I wish you all the best: but, if you fail, remember that it's a set-back, not a disaster. Don't put yourself in a position where the company going down would personally bankrupt you. If it does happen, and you're reasonably sure the reason it happened wasn't due to your incompetence of some deep personal failing, brush yourself off, sort the mess out, and start again.

  • Re:Business by teepee (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:41PM
  • Bruce Perens ... by divec (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @02:41AM
  • How the heck do you write a biz plan? by webview (Score:2) Wednesday February 02 2000, @08:37AM
  • It's the money, stupid by clever_shark (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @05:26AM
  • Lots of good advice, hope this fits... by shadrack (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @05:53AM
  • Re:Recommendations: by shadrack (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @06:05AM
  • Re:Look at Extreme Networks by QuantumG (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:22PM
  • Microserf by QuantumG (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:33PM
  • Re:Microserf by QuantumG (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @12:23PM
  • by QuantumG (50515) <qg@biodome.org> on Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:41PM (#1312819) Homepage Journal
    There's nothing worse than having to fire a friend because they just don't listen to what you tell them to do. An employee will do the bullshit work as well as the fun stuff. A friend who looks around for someone else to do it and then puts it off is someone you cant control. What are you gunna do? Fire him? Hey, I'm your friend! Stop being such a dick. Respect for your authority might not fit into the anarchial world of friendship but in business it is crucial.
  • Re:Experienced businessmen by Qui-Gon Jinn (Score:2) Wednesday February 02 2000, @04:49AM
  • Re:You want Gamasutra by bobm (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @11:39AM
  • by Junks Jerzey (54586) on Wednesday February 02 2000, @05:31AM (#1312822)
    Two big gotchas, from experience, that geeks never want to believe:

    1. Just because you can make better products than a successful company doesn't mean you'll be able to get anywhere near that level of success. When that company started out, they were in a different situation than you (maybe they started five years ago for example, when the landscape was different). And you're not seeing the years of work that went into doing non-techie stuff like marketing and generally making good decisions.

    2. Look at the median sales for your field, not the mean. A very common mistake is for a software entrepeneur to say "Big Company X has sold 2,000,000 copies of its software; all we need to do is sell 5% of that to stay in business." That's not how it works. Realistically, a handful of big companies might sell 90% of the products in a field, and that remaining 10 is made up of hundreds of little guys trying to get some action. So while the mean number of sales might be 100,000, the median might be 10.
  • Trust NO ONE! by Myddrin (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @07:48AM
  • Re:Incorporating? Where? by thermal_noise (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @05:37AM
  • Re:Microserf by bakert (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @01:01AM
  • Re:Good Advise by bakert (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @01:57AM
  • Re:Incorporating? Where? by wnissen (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @11:49PM
  • Growing pains inevitable by twit (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @09:49PM
  • Unconstructive criticism by twit (Score:2) Tuesday February 01 2000, @09:15PM
  • by twit (60210) on Tuesday February 01 2000, @09:46PM (#1312830) Homepage
    The company I work for is currently going through some growing pains - not startup per se, but going from a small company (I joined towards the end of the small company era) to a medium sized one and eventual acquisition by a multinational corp.

    Your corporate culture is going to change during the startup and growth phase. Each will require different styles of management and different styles of worker - and sometimes different workers.That may sound cruel, but think about it; the people you want running the show when you have 200 workers aren't necessarily the same that you want when you're running three or four coders out of somebody's garage.

    Many companies fold during this transition. Getting a few jobs and contracts and filling these orders is easy compared to attempting steady growth.

    Everything in your business model, from billing rates to accounting methods, has to be checked and rechecked. Many companies, especially in high-tech, end up in debt at the start of their existence; then, in order to pay the debt, they incur more debt going after projects with questtionabe margins. They build more debt as growth continues until they become unsalable and unsteady and finally topple.



    --
  • Re:Capitalization by SnakeStu (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @08:40AM
  • Re:Incorporate in Delaware by SnakeStu (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @08:56AM
  • Re:Marketing!! by TurkishGeek (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @06:14AM
  • Re:Management (uhg!) by SpaceCadet (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:44PM
  • Re:What is your team missing? by KeckOS (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @02:08PM
  • "High St@kes: No Prisoners" by Charles Furgeson by BalloonMan (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @05:28PM
  • Re:First and Foremost by Uller-RM (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @09:14PM
  • Re:Avoid using proprietary languages! by iainh (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @09:01PM
  • by iainh (67816) on Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:34PM (#1312839)
    We are supporting several really large legacy systems using FoxPro2.6a. Fox Software got sold to a company we all know and love. The cost of rewriting the systems to use the butcherd thing known as VFP is almost same as rewriting in another language except that we wouldn't be able to salvage any of the xBASE code. If you use open source software you cannot be orphaned in this manner.

    By the way, on an offtopic question, does anyone know of any projects to develop an open source variant of the xBase Language? I would be interested in contributing 14 years of experience.

  • Advice from failure by SLOfuse (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @06:44AM
  • Re:Avoid using proprietary languages! by Taucere (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @01:24AM
  • by grantdh (72401) on Wednesday February 02 2000, @01:16AM (#1312842) Homepage Journal
    Full Subject:
    "How To Do It And Not Get It From Someone Who Did It And Got It!"

    :)

    1: The planning is everything, the plan is nothing
    Damn straight you should have that plan written out! It's for you - to hell with anyone else who reads it. If they read it and it helps, bargain. Just never forget, it's for you.

    Also, once you've written it, be ready to throw the whole lot away and write it again if necessary. If I meet a leading-edge project or a start-up team which has a plan that hasn't been updated in a month, I start running.

    No shit - it's the act of planning that's critical. You've looked around, you've researched, you've figured something out and you've written it down so that everyone involved understands & agrees. If you don't have that, you have no foundation.

    Of course, tomorrow brings something entirely new (new tech, new prospects, change in owners, etc etc etc). Don't valiantly attempt to change reality to fit your now outdated plan. Modify those parts of the plan as necessary, get everyone to agree to the new ideas and get back into the work.

    Trust me, it will make one hell of a difference. I'm doing a new company now and I thought I could get away without doing the plan. HAH! Big F**King mistake. Mind you, if I'd done the planning right in the start, I wouldn't have dumped 7 months into this turkey (note: I've met some great people, learned some wonderful things and I think we can still make it fly - maybe the stress & lack of $$$ will be worth it??? :)

    2: Worship Your Prospects/Customers
    If you treat your customers/prospects with extreme respect, act professionally (* see below for definition of "professionally" :) and bend over backwards to help them, they'll stick with you through thick & thin. I've had so many experiences where, due to our relationships with customers/prospects, we kept things going even when the software product was collapsing in a heap during rollouts (never trust someone who says "All ODBC-2 systems are equal" :)

    3: Acting Professionally
    This does not mean always wearing a Brooks Brothers Shirt, Armani Suit and spewing forth sensless metaphors ("Let's just roll it all up into one big ball of wax, gentlemen" :) - Save that for the marketing crew (* more on marketing below :)

    To me, acting professionally means:
    • Keeping your word - say it, do it, stick to it.
    • Admitting your mistakes (especially for when you cannot keep your word about a deadline/deliverable :) - you fuck it up, you admit it, you determine a solution with those involved and you get on with life
    • Respecting others - treat your staff, prospects, clients, vendors, etc with respect. No bad mouthing, denigration, etc etc.

    4: Marketing
    Good marketing walks a fine line between "truth" and "bullshit, arse licking insanity" - trust me, I've been doing marketing as well as tech stuff. You need to be able to tell the customer about what you have in such a way that it sounds like what they want without bullshitting (don't say it's a 2 tonne truck when it's actually a new form of moped :)

    Get close to the customers and try to learn their language. Watch how they react and adjust as you go, etc. Perform "active listening" (where you say back to the person what you think they've said - not like a parrot though :)

    Yes, that's right, it's called "People Skills" - you have to come out from behind the computer screen, dress presentably (for your client - suit if you have to, golf shirt, riped jeans - what ever they're expecting/comfortable with :) If you cannot get on well with those unpredictable, annoying, illogical and unforgiving bastards called humans, you had better get someone in fast who can :)

    5: Good Advisors
    You don't know everything. Your team probably doesn't know everything. Find people who know what you want to know and learn from them. Pick the ones who are where you want to be. Don't pick the ones who aren't (sounds obvious, but you'd be surprised :)

    Remember - you get what you pay for. It may not always be in $$$ or stock, but you should pay for it in some way (hell, the number of people I've taken out for a few drinks/dinner/lunch to try to learn from them... )

    6: Prepare for the worst, hope for the best
    It's not pessimistic - it's realisitc. Have contingencies in place and be ready. Don't get bogged down in the thinking/worrying but at least review what could go wrong and be ready. This doesn't mean you should stress/plan/prepare for/etc a meteor hitting the earth - it may wipe out your company but it'll probably wipe out a lot of other stuff too :) You should have identified, however, a key player and planned what to do if they leave, go under a bus, etc.

    7: Cashflow is King
    You may look good on paper. It may only be another week until that client's work is done and they give you the final installment of the $2 million job. Unfortunately, your staff are ready to quit 'cos they've not been paid lately, you're getting legal notices from suppliers and the vultures are circling...

    Don't splurge on style over substance! That mahogany desk you love will look great in one of those "ex dot.com startup" auction places.

    How long 'till the next payment? Right, add a big fat margin for error (installation delayed, signatory canoing in the amazon, lost in the mail, etc etc etc). Got enough cash to survive 'til then? You'd better... (see point #6 :)

    8: Everything Else Already Said In This Thread
    I cannot agree more with people who have said all those things already about:
    • Good Staff
    • Tread Carefully With Friends
    • Document Everything
    • Regular summaries of what's going on to everyone with a vested interest
    • Delegate
    • Focus on Goals - do not micromanage

    I've worked in "startup" type companies in three countries now. It's the same in each one (well, OK, so the languages are often different, the laws are definitely different and sometimes it's easier/harder to get funding, but anyhow... :)

    In a nutshell (and what else is Slashdot but a giant nutshell? :) - get out there, give it your best shot and if you're *really* lucky, you'll succeed. If you don't, pick yourself up, dust yourself off and review all that went wrong (be honest - what went wrong could be you - maybe you're not mentally geared for this sort of shit) If you think you can learn and do it better, get back out there and go. At least you're trying, not just sitting back and bitching/moaning/talking about it...
  • Re:Experienced businessmen by dsplat (Score:2) Wednesday February 02 2000, @02:57AM
  • Re:Don't hire some east coast banker to be your CE by dsplat (Score:2) Wednesday February 02 2000, @03:02AM
  • Incorporating? Where? by lw54 (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:36PM
  • Re:Experienced businessmen by Allnighterking (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @09:03PM
  • by Allnighterking (74212) on Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:48PM (#1312847) Homepage
    I agree with the above but wish to add one thing. DON'T FORGET THE INDIANS!!! ie Most startup's I've worked with concentrate so hard on hiring the guys at the top that when it comes time to dole out the payroll and benefits for the guys and gals in the trenches they don't have the funds (or the stock options) to keep them happy. A good executive seceratry type can be worth her weight in gold when it comes to keeping the office running and presenting a profesional image. If you're a software company you'll need more programers because you are going to be too busy with meetings and schmoozing to do the amount of programing you do now, and will quickly burn yourself out if you try. Second keep regular hours. I know it's more comfortable to work at night and sleep all day. But businesses and the people who run them don't do this. Third ... DELEGATE!!! I know you are the next Knuth but you can't and shouldn't do it all yourself. When you do hand off a job. Don't worry about how it's being done, or whether it's being done in your style. Concentrate on the results of the persons methods. ie. DON'T micromanage. Finally, plan for the future both in where you are going and in how you spend money. Remember that although you can build your own circuit to do a simple task, if you are worth 100 dollars an hour that circuit board that costs 29.99 at Fry's can get real expensive real quick. (2 hours to design and build x 100.00 plus parts vs. 29.99 at the store) That's about it. Now for me it's back to teaching the geek I work with that reading books on salemanship doesn't make him a salesman. *sigh*

  • Re:May I ask.... by nieveh (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:07PM
  • Re:dont by tricker (Score:2) Wednesday February 02 2000, @08:09AM
  • Legal Representation by pooge (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @10:58PM
  • Re:Raising money is not easy by keil (Score:2) Tuesday February 01 2000, @09:21PM
  • Re:dont by TummyX (Score:2) Tuesday February 01 2000, @09:13PM
  • Re:You should... by brunes69 (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @03:54PM
  • Re:Management (uhg!) by pflinton (Score:2) Wednesday February 02 2000, @05:04AM
  • Micro-Management! by 187 (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @06:46AM
  • OT: How is this a Troll?!?!? by Esperandi (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @08:57AM
  • by anishi (88236) <xeeban.xeeban@com> on Tuesday February 01 2000, @09:18PM (#1312857) Homepage
    If you are seeking VC assistance to get off the ground, absolutely get yourself a copy of "The Entrepreneur's Guid to Business Law" by Bagley and Dauchy. It won't replace a good layer, but it will get you conversant enough to know what most of the issues are.

    Also get a good lawyer. Interview several and ask for a reference or two. There are a lot of law firms that seem really good, but are in reality over burdened by the amount of activity going on right now in software and the Internet. There are some firms that will take you on deferred payment if you have a solid business plan. Some will even offer to offset fees in exchange for stock later down the road. Shop around. A good lawyer is essential, especially when you are dealing with VC.

    Some tips from the front line:

    1) Definitely pick a CEO and differentiate duties. In a start up, many of the founders will be doing many things, but make sure that one person has the eventual say. The previous poster is absolutely correct in stating that the CEO's main dities will be in raising money and forging relationships. If someone on your current management team can't do this, find someone who can.

    As a startup, many times you see founders acting as "partners", each giving their input to every decision. Reaching a general consensus is a good thing to get everyone involved, but don't operate democratically, nothing will get done.

    2) The previous post summed it up: Divide the equity equally amongst the founders. This also means that you should look closely at each founder. Some one who leaves after the first month because they were marginal in the first place can return to cause problems. Wayward founders can become a legal nightmare if you are successful. Equal equity is important to give a sense of fairness to all the founders. If you deviate from this, make sure that there is a real good reason for doing so.

    3) Get your elevator pitch down. This means basically that you can powerfully explain what you company does to someone sharing an elevator with you. If it takes you five minutes to explain what the company does, then you need to do some rethinking! Keep it simple and powerful. Ideally it should be explained in a single sentence like, "We aim to be the Amazon.com of snack foods."

    4) Think angel. For your first round of money, unless you have a VERY good business plan or an amazing management team (or both!) most VC will not touch you. There is a lot of hype about how much VC money is floating around, but the reality is that they are very selective in who they invest. Angels are your best bet for the initial seed round until you have something to show.

    5) Initial valuation. Be careful. With a good idea, a good BP, and a capable management team, you should be able to get as much as a $5 million dollar valuation. But don't shoot too high. If you get too high a valuation, the next round investors will laugh at you. And if they come in at a lower valuation, you will definitely piss off the initial investors (not to mention invoking any legal nasties like ratcheting clauses that will probably be a part of your agreement). Moral: get a realistic valuation. Seek out angels first, unless you really think you have the Right Stuff(tm). In that case, go for it. There are a lot of good VC and they are indispensible for both cash and industry contacts and management assistance.

    6) Don't get discouraged by competition! If you have a good idea, chances are that there are 20 other startups moving at the same time with a similar idea. Plan to execute quickly and make sure you do it better. Darwin works overtime in this economy, so be ready for it. But don't get discouraged by competition. Its inevitable and makes you work harder to make a valuable product or service.

    7) Lastly, don't be afraid to admit you don't know something. The last thing that investors want to find out is that you lied to them about something. Be honest and frank and you might find that someone can get you your answer or provide a resource to assist. No plan is perfect. No team is perfect. And they know it.

    Good luck to you all! Its a hard, long and frustrating road to start your own company, but the rewards are worth it. Even if you "fail" you take away very important lessons and experience to use next time.

  • It's the cash-flow stupid ... by threaded (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @11:16PM
  • Use proper English. by gblues (Score:2) Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:46PM
  • by gregstoll (90319) <776wripc001@sneakemai l . com> on Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:22PM (#1312860) Homepage
    Don't sell out to Bill Gates! Remember that Simpsons episode?

    Check out Greg's Bridge Page!
  • Re:First and Foremost by ziegler (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:16PM
  • Re:Wrong. A good business plan is essential. by ziegler (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @10:09PM
  • Re:First and Foremost by ziegler (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @10:26PM
  • by ziegler (91180) on Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:14PM (#1312864)
    This is what you need:
    - a solid idea which can defend in the marketplace
    - a proven team (EXTREMELY important... especially to VCs)
    - a solid financial plan (have a CPA check your assumptions + spreadsheets)
    - LOTS and LOTS of connections
    - LOTS and LOTS of luck
    - good sales people
    - good marketing people

    This is what you don't need:
    - a formal business plan (an executive summary will do)
    - good technology (nobody cares)

    And finally the cold hard facts:
    1. VERY few companies get funded. Don't know the exact number, but I'd say les\s than 5%.
    2. Of these, 80% of startups fail.

    Enjoy!
  • by ziegler (91180) on Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:26PM (#1312865)
    his is very good advice. I'd also add that the CEO's *SOLE* responsibility in a startup is raising money. If they are spending time doing other things, you will see your bank accounts disappear very quickly.

    And remember this chant when the shit hits the fan: "IPO... IPO... IPO... IPO... IPO..."
  • The only way to know how is to have done it by tbray (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @08:16AM
  • Re:Don't hire some east coast banker to be your CE by jued0001 (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @05:31AM
  • Good information. by jued0001 (Score:2) Wednesday February 02 2000, @05:11AM
  • Re:Don't hire some east coast banker to be your CE by F452 (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @03:15AM
  • Re:Wrong. A good business plan is essential. by 4of12 (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @04:35AM
  • Enjoy the journey! by blackrazor (Score:2) Wednesday February 02 2000, @04:13AM
  • Re:Ship now by dingbat_hp (Score:2) Tuesday February 01 2000, @11:25PM
  • Re:Experienced businessmen by tdenkinger (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @04:28AM
  • Re:Rule Number 1 by marfil (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @05:57AM
  • Re:WWJD by JasonVergo (Score:1) Thursday February 03 2000, @08:13AM
  • dont (Score:4)

    by DaoAcid (101455) on Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:02PM (#1312877)
    dont do anything with one-click shopping
  • Keys to startup success by db_cooper (Score:2) Tuesday February 01 2000, @10:08PM
  • Would you rather be BillG or Linus? by XJoshX (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @09:42AM
  • Management Style by yuriwho (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @10:20PM
  • One very important thing you need by cecil36 (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @07:43AM
  • by alexhmit01 (104757) on Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:11PM (#1312882)
    Bring in experienced businessmen, NOW. Get a solid person in charge of marketing. You can't think "develop product, market it," marketing and development need to work in sync. Be certain that the market that you are aiming for exists and that you can capture it.

    Get a good CFO once the seed money comes in. An accountant is NOT good enough. It takes time to raise money, be certain that you will know when the next infusion of capital is needed.

    Decide on jobs initially. There NEEDS to be a President/CEO, his decision is final. You need a chain of command, not by committee. Make certain that whomever is your starting CEO is ready for the responsibility (raising money, forging alliances). Even more important, make certain that they are ready to step down when the company needs someone experienced in that role.

    Divide the initial equity evenly among the founders. There should be NO room for equity fights in the beginning.

    Hire good, intelligent, motivated employees. If one of your first hires is bad, you're sunk.

    Good luck.

    Alex
  • Re:Experienced businessmen by tjgrant (Score:2) Tuesday February 01 2000, @09:55PM
  • translating and sales by techwatcher (Score:1) Wednesday February 09 2000, @12:59PM
  • by john@iastate.edu (113202) on Wednesday February 02 2000, @05:51AM (#1312885) Homepage
    There was an article in the local paper recently about a big metal fabricating company here who went out of business after 30-some years. Their biggest customer was bought by somebody and the dropped their orders significantly (all the while saying (lying?) that they'd return to their normal amounts as soon as things settled down -- but they didn't, they went to 0).

    A similar thing happened to me this summer. I've consulted for 10 years or so. In the past, we needed that money, luckily now we don't because my largest customer's largest customer dropped them -- they folded, I folded, we all folded.

    I didn't really care, (our little boy was starting Kindergarten, so it gave me a chance to get involved with PTA, coaching soccer, etc), but it scrambled a lot of other people's lives.

    It is very tempting to keep increasing the amount of time an attention you give to the people sending you the biggest check every month, but you will create either a tail wagging your dog, or a collapse-in-waiting.

  • Source Code. by Go'Tan (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @12:51AM
  • My little venture.. by mkatona (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @02:52AM
  • Promises by Nilchii (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @10:46AM
  • Its easy! by cbustapeck (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @04:05AM
  • Re:Enjoy the journey! by paulbd (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @04:49AM
  • Simple Summary by dave-man (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @02:09AM
  • May I ask.... by Tron2.0 (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:02PM
  • by m.o (121338) on Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:26PM (#1312893) Homepage
    OK, I am not going to write a comprehensive "how to start your own company" guide here, but I'll give some random pieces of advice (based on my own experience - a company I started with a couple of friends got funded a month ago after six months of work).

    1. Choose a name that nobody else would think of using (something like Red Hat is a perfect example) - we got a pretty generic URL, but then it turned out that it was also trademarked (by someone else), so we still have stupid legal problems, which divert our time from the meaningful stuff.

    2. When you go to VCs, don't think that they are stupid and can be blinded by bullshit and buzzwords (first-mover advantage, scalable model, etc.) - many (maybe most) of them have very technical backgrounds, started companies themselves, and can speak your language. However, it also helps to speak theirs - read a couple of issues of something like Forbes ASAP, Fast Company, etc. - I generally don't read them, but it helps to tune your mind to the right wavelenght before presentations :)

    2a. Don't think that you are the smartest. If you have this idea, chances are that someone else also did. Moreover, chances are that some of the VCs already funded a similar company, so, obviously, avoid those ones - they will just steal the good ideas from your model for those companies (and they ARE allowed to do that, because they do not sign the NDAs)

    2b. Don't give up - we went to A LOT OF VCs before finally getting funded.

    2c. And if you are young, they WILL rip you off (in terms of equity they take vs. money they give). Life's a bitch. But if you're successful, it's not going to matter :)

    3. Try to use all possible connections you have, even the weirdest ones. If you have some friends/professors/former bosses/etc. who are very well-known, or just merely very successful, try to get them as advisors - if they are nice they will agree (it's zero marginal cost to them), and you might benefit a lot by just mentioning them as an advisors. Try to get many people fast, even half-committed - it is much nicer to say that you have 10 people (and, of course, give names) when you try to rasie money than to say "well, we two have this great idea". Remember, at the very early stages funding is closely related to the size of the company, e.g. # of people in it.

    4. Have fun. Always remember that you have nothing to lose. I personally consider this whole start-up thing to be a game, in which I can only lose time (which is valuable, but I've still got a lot of it - like 50 years :), but can gain great experience, great contacts, have fun, and potentially retire soon (though I do realize that chances of the latter are pretty slim)

    Good luck!!!
  • Be Like Bill... by Morocco Mole (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @10:29AM
  • by boojum_uc (122395) on Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:30PM (#1312895)
    I've seen three separate promising startups explode because the people involved are friends and they didn't bother to put things in writing. In one case, three guys I know began a company. It became clear after they started being popular that the third guy had very different ideas about what was required (in terms of work) for owning his one third. He started demanding to take money out of the company rather than re-invest it all.

    These are things that could have been clarified from the beginning. Money makes people do really weird things, even good friends. Get it in writing from the top.

  • SERIOUS headaches in store by el_guapo (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @02:12PM
  • Get contracts... by dimson (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @07:40AM
  • Take it from one who knows... by NatePWIII (Score:2) Tuesday February 01 2000, @10:36PM
  • Forums by BgJonson79 (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @10:53AM
  • Listen to your heart by bleppie (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @05:34AM
  • And the Best and Cheapest advertising... by milliyear (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @03:49AM
  • ...and discuss expectations with friends by milliyear (Score:2) Wednesday February 02 2000, @03:11AM
  • Sell Overvalued Stock, and... by istartedi (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @12:16AM
  • Look at Extreme Networks by illuvator (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:06PM
  • Re:May I ask.... by illuvator (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:16PM
  • Incorporate in Delaware by illuvator (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:43PM
  • Don't let investors get control of the company! by illuvator (Score:2) Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:28PM
  • Re:Look at Extreme Networks by illuvator (Score:2) Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:38PM
  • by dbc (135354) on Tuesday February 01 2000, @09:04PM (#1312909)
    Well, among my several employers, I've been through a couple of startups over the years. One went well for the investors, but I was too junior to make much off of it. The other was as bad as it gets... it was so bad it didn't even make a detectable crater when it went chapter 13. So here goes:
    1. The aforementioned crash & burn went ch. 13 because the two key founders had a combined emotional age of 6. Choose the team carefully. The VC's also primarily fund on quality and track record of the team.
    2. What is missing from your team? A good marketing guy? No one is more important to success -- including the chief software architect -- so park your geek ego, OK? By the way, most marketing guys are not *good* marketing guys -- get someone that is clearly insightful. If it smells like arm-waving BS, it is. Do you have a manager? You need someone who has actual people management experience for a few years with >16 person teams... this is *not* an area for OJT.. and well meaning but clueless about people management and keeping a shop running will drive good people away... besides burning up your money.
    3. Remember that the job of a start-up team is to put scalable processes in place. Almost all companies go through "growing pains". Most can be avoided. The pain is caused by outgrowing the processes that work for small teams. Example: 2 guys whacking code can survive without a defect tracking system. 20 can not. Every process needs to be examined for scalability.. you will miss some, and those will be the walls you hit.
    4. When something begins to smell a little like a mistake... ruthlessly surface the issue and squash the mistake immediatly. Bad hire? Throw the bum out NOW. Bad choice of tool? ditto. Chapter 13, Inc. would have done far better if the board had been *less* patient with the clowns at the controls. Small companies can take too many self-inflicted wounds.
    5. You *do* need a business plan. Revise it regularly. It's for *you*, not the VC's. Keeps you focused on what matters.
    6. Pinch pennies, but in the right places. It's pretty simple, the less money you burn, the more of the company you keep for yourself. Cheap used furniture or even plywood holds up a monitor as well as anything else. Use your money to buy tools that make your coders squirt ascii like a firehose and squash bugs in dozens.
    7. There happens to be way more money in the hands of VC's right now than at any time in recent decades. WAY more. They are funding stupid deals that will crash and burn. They are funding big deals because little $2M dribbles doesn't invest it fast enough. Your challenge will be getting noticed, because they are too busy pushing money into the hands of people they already know... people that have made them money in the past. So.. back to #2, do you have somebody on your team that knows how to raise money from VC's? Find one.

    And best of luck. A start up will be be best, worst, most educational, most tiring E-ticket ride you can find. Whether you make a zillion or if you crash and burn.
  • having been in two startups by freshfromthevat (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @11:09AM
  • Get it in writing by CyberDong (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:36PM
  • Capitalization by kubla (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @07:07AM
  • Re:Sexy Secretaries by jhix (Score:2) Wednesday February 02 2000, @11:08AM
  • Re:Experienced businessmen by mmt (Score:2) Tuesday February 01 2000, @09:08PM
  • Ship now by 0000 0111 (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @10:17PM
  • Re:Experienced businessmen by buss_error (Score:1) Wednesday February 02 2000, @04:50AM
  • Re:dont by akamil (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:04PM
  • advertising by akamil (Score:1) Tuesday February 01 2000, @08:07PM
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  • by Mitchell Tsai (147640) on Wednesday February 02 2000, @07:14AM (#1312935) Homepage
    Take a look at incubator homepages for suggestions as to what a business needs.
    http://idealab.com
    http://ecompanies.com

    I disagree with a few points.
    1) Unequal founders - Beginners often want equal percentages. Hogwash. Checkout venture capital homepages for typical percentages.
    http://benchmarkcapital.com
    http://thestandard.com

    2) Full business plans are not always needed at the early stages. However, she adds, "business plans are becoming less and less crucial. It's all about execution and how fast [the founders] can move." The reason? "It's because the world is moving so fast. We want to see an executive summary and a marketing plan; I need to know what the costs are because the revenues are totally fictitious." Besides, Comaford notes, business plans change so frequently that some are almost outdated by the time they're drafted.

    3) Decent venture capitalists fund maybe 1% of their offers (pre-screened). Maybe 1-2 million internet ideas being shopped for money today. Become better informed about venture capital mechanics.
    Look at CMGI, ICGE, Draper, etc...
    http://www.drapervc.com/CurrentPortfolio.html

    Even after the pickiness of VCs,
    Maybe 15% of VC-funded companies are successful.
    Raise this to 50% for CMGI-funded companies.

    Small Businesses - 90% fail within three years (due primarily to cash flow problems).
    Even 14 of 15 of penny stock IPOs sink.

    Some early stages of the startup company hierarchy.
    1) $50,000-100,000 small business, home business

    2-5) $200,000-2,000,000 idea (2-4 people)
    - $100,000 annual revenues, $10,000 profit (after salary).
    - P/E ratio of 50!
    - Job of early people is to build this idea into stage 2.
    - Spend as little money as possible
    - Assemble management team, make sound business model & strategy
    - Write executive summary of business plan
    - Answer all critical questions
    - Does NOT mean do 100% market analysis/research.

    6) $5,000,000-10,000,000 idea/company (5-15 people)
    - Seed Money:
    Better - $500,000 - $1,000,000 for 5-15%
    Typical - $1,000,000 - $2,000,000 for 20-40%
    Worse - $1,000,000 - $4,000,000 for 40-60%
    - Finish business plan for 1st stage funding
    - 3 months to get company to next stage
    - Spend money as fast as necessary to move quickly.
    - Take as little money as you really need (for quick expansion).
    - Ask for money (when you don't need it) to get powerful people on your side. Make connections.

    8) $20,000,000 - 50,000,000 company (10-50 people)
    - 1st Stage VC $1,000,000 - $10,000,000 for 10-30%
    - Try to get funding from well-known VCs: CMGI, Draper, etc..., even if you get less.
    - Proof of concept.
    - Buy up competitors.
    - Hire professional CFO/CTO.
    - Staff big-name board of directors.
    - Make strategic alliances and partnerships.

    10) $100 million - 200 million company (50-200 people)
    - 2nd Stage VC $20,000,000 -$100,000,000 for 20-50%
    - Buy up more competitors and allied companies.
    - Expand to 300-400 people. Need headcount for IPO.
    - Hire big-name CEO/Chairman.

    12) $500 million - 2 billion (300-600 people)
    - "Small-cap company", maybe a penny stock
    - IPO $20,000,000 -$500,000,000 for 10-30%
    - B2bstores.com (BTBC) to IPO for $28 million (2/7)
    - Palm (PALM) to IPO for $345 million (2/28)

    Advice:
    1) Connections. A decent business idea with good connections often beats many great ideas. Use funding sources, lawyers, and accountants for their connections and ability to help your company.
    2) Management Team. Totally crucial. Find people with real startup experience as advisors and/or management team. Experienced CEOs/managers can do more with 40 hr employee work weeks than newbies can do with 100 hr weeks. Experience tells you what NOT to do.
    3) Communication. Between team members.
    4) Community. Use CEO resources in your area. In LA,
    http://directors.org
    http://www.digitalcoastweekly.com/
    In NY, check out Silicon Alley,
    http://siliconalley.com/sa/events.cfm
    http://www.atnewyork.com/
    http://www.siliconalleyreporter.com
    You Bay Area guys have it easy... ;-)

    Other Good Articles:
    Stuff to watch out for when starting
    http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151, 9214,00.html?nl=int
    How much to pay employees
    http://www.thestandard.com/metrics/display/0,2149, 1115,00.html
    Business plans - are they necesssary?
    http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151, 9226,00.html
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