Google Pages to be Replaced by JotSpot

fyc writes "According to a presentation by Scott Johnson, ex-JotSpot executive and recent Google employee, the JotSpot wiki service acquired late last year by Google is to replace Google's own Pages service. The new service will be called as Google Sites and will launch next year. From the presentation: 'Based on JotSpot collaboration tools, Sites will allow business to set up intranets, project management tracking, customer extranets, and any number of custom sites based on multi-user collaboration.'"

good

Wierd (for me) that I was wondering when a Gwiki would be coming. I'm guessing this'll be free too? My question is, when do we get to host script and flash etc on Google's domain?

Are people still falling for this?

Put all your valuable business information on our servers. Go ahead, do it. What could go wrong?

Re:Are people still falling for this?

I hope we're not at the point where merely having a dissenting opinion about the Google constitutes a troll post. There's a need, now more than ever for that opposition voice to be heard. Google is snatching up projects all the time, it's easy to see that their goal is complete control of the business of information management. When it's possible for a company to use Google for everything it's going to be too late to raise privacy and security concerns. Which is why we need to be having that discussion NOW. Google offers these services for free, largely, and if business begins switching over in large numbers to a Google centric data management system YOUR data and YOUR private info will end up in Google's hands just by you doing business with those companies. Now, currently I trust Google more than Microsoft to protect that, they've done nothing yet to shake that trust and they do offer some very valuable services for zero cost, but I do not want them to ever have a monopoly--in any area.

Re:Are people still falling for this?

It's a valid concern (at least for it to be discussed more), but whats the solution? Apart from simply avoiding the net app model? If you want to use the benefits of SaaS, how would you/anyone suggest these concerns are reduced/nulled? Not at all suggesting more can't be done. Just asking what people think should be done to avoid SaaS continually raising the priacy argument...

Re:Are people still falling for this?

If google wants to be taken seriously in the enterprise market (due to the obvious privacy implications you mention), they need to start offering network appliances that allow users to privately host their own google service locally without requiring a direct connection to Google.

Of course, that all said, I don't particularly feel that Google's applications are well-suited to the enterprise to begin with. Microsoft's got that market pretty well cornered, and the level of integration provided by Exchange is simply unmatched. Along the same lines, although I find GMail and GCal both to be fantastic, they're both missing that sort of "snappiness" that you'd get from a desktop application.

Google's services are attractive to anyone who can't afford their own server (and the staff to run it). Anyone else should probably look elsewhere (and hopefully, we'll start seeing some good OSS packages that can rival Exchange)

Re:Are people still falling for this?

Often a lot less then what could go wrong if you managed it at the business. Echonomies of scale, For a small business especially one not focused on IT. There data storage of important files are on some laptop which could die any second now. For most small IT Companies they have a server perhaps with some sort of raid, and know they should backup daily but usually get it once a month... Even for Mid sized companies managing all the data and keeping it safe is a lot of work and is expensive. It is expensive for google too but that is what they do and do rather well... So chances are that if you lost your data to googe and it was stolen is a lot less then if you try to manage it yourself, while having other jobs to do.

great

yet another step in google plan for world domination using information tho will happen to blogspot then? its along the same lines and will new gwiki end up like blogspot? full of warez blogs linking to rapidshare?

What about our existing pages/info?

Will they maintain "legacy" URLs for early adopters who have amassed many pages and interlinked them with other websites/posted links where they can't edit them?

Mostly old news

We knew for the Jot team back in July that it was being added as a Google Domain App [jot.com].

So we now know it has a name.

Still, I'm looking forward to seeing it deployed. I currently use gmail for my personal domains, and it works well - easy to set up, generous limits.

--Q

Still Can't Register

Maybe by the time this transition happens, you'll be able to register for a JotSpot account again. . .

As a google pages user...

I find the service to be almost useless, like a lot of other Google things. It's always missing the most basic of functionality.

Re:As a google pages user...

GMail - Couldn't delete. They fixed this eventually, but everything had to archived otherwise. When they introduced chat, it was decided that it would be enabled by default, and everyone was allowed to see you. (Eventually, they let you log out, or hide).

Pages - Can't make folders, or do much else other than type in templates. They have been 'working' on bringing us the ability to make folders for 2 years now. Everything has to be in the main folder, and the main 'home page' has to be used when entering the site. You can upload html pages after that, but the sum of the parts don't add up to what geocities was in 1997.

Talk - Everyone added to my list, and has access to hear my mic 'at my convenience'. GTalk just went ahead and added everyone I ever sent an e-mail to to my contact list as soon as I clicked to run it the first time.

Google Notifier - Looks the same whether I'm online, signed in, signed out, or lost my connection.

Google products, from what I've seen, don't believe in the concept of user options, or even any user input at some points. They like to just make all the choices for you, and then make you stick to it, until enough people complain and it gets added in.

If google made a toaster, there would be one setting, and one setting only. If you wanted your toast lighter, or darker, it's just too damned bad. Because the guy who made the google toaster already decided that your toast only needs that one optimum setting. This is until they finally unveil their great new feature, the variable timer, like it's never been done before, or wasn't an obvious, expected feature from the start.

I'm sure the google techs print all those new feature releases up, and put them on their fridge. You know, the gFridge! The one where your ice cream is always rock hard, because google determined the proper gTemperature for you.

my only question

is, will they be trashing all the sites currently on google pages? 'cause that would be bad. for a lot of people.

AliBaBa?

Does no one recognise this as potentially being an Alibaba clone type service? Alibaba, basically, provide an easy way for a company to be included in a large B2B service. No independent website required yet registration (together with various fees and verification) needed for a meaningful service. English languages are quite expensice. Clearly China-West is a great B2B market, Alibaba cornered it 18 months ago, so I'm curious if this is just yet another blog type service or something that could be vertically integrated into an effective directory type service, ads only, dominated by Google?

the matrix

Great, another thing to switch to google for. Eventually we will move our physical bodies to Google as well, into their gCapules which provide an exceptional virtual reality experience we can work in, the only price being their using our bodies as batteries to power their massive server farms. That, and objects in the virtual world will be festooned with google ads.

Added functionality

I've been using Google Pages on and off since it first came out. It has always seemed to me to be rather... basic. This is especially true of the file manager. Does anyone have any idea about a possible upgrade to a better file manager, possibly involving the use of directories? FTP support would be really nice too.

Wrong name

Possibly redundant, but I would like to note that I got the man's name wrong - it should be Scott Johnston, not Scott Johnson.

Finally

I have been watching jotspot for a while , I'm glad that google is finally doing something with it

I'm very dissapointed

that no one has made a GSpot joke jet.