Google Betas Google Print 183
Chronic Infection writes "Google is beta testing a book search service called
Google Print. Here is a list of books included to date." Quick spot checking turned up excerpts like this one for The DaVinci Code, a great book if you haven't read it.
Page rank in books? (Score:5, Interesting)
Now I wonder how this is done. Google's PageRank uses links from other pages to rank results - but in usual books there aren't any "hyperlinks".
Could anyone offer me insight into this? - thanks!
Re:Page rank in books? (Score:5, Informative)
Seems that they do not link to the books directly, but to retailers. From this page [google.com]
Re:Page rank in books? (Score:3, Insightful)
Yeah, but... (Score:5, Funny)
While your post might have been valid a few years ago, ever since Google told us the real secret, it's hard to believe some people still think they use all those fancy algorithms and hyperlinkers.
Re:Page rank in books? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Page rank in books? (Score:5, Informative)
BTW, I wonder when will the first "sex sex sex porn porn porn hot hot hot big big big" book show up?
also..what about plagiarism? (Score:2)
How do these book excerpts aid the plagiarist?
Re:Page rank in books? (Score:2)
...a great book if you haven't read it. (Score:5, Funny)
I cant resist asking:
So how great is it if you did read it?
Re:...a great book if you haven't read it. (Score:2)
Re:...a great book if you haven't read it. (Score:2)
It's a pile of sacrilegious hog wash.
Re:...a great book if you haven't read it. (Score:1)
Yes, logic has that tendency.
Re:...a great book if you haven't read it. (Score:2, Flamebait)
Yes, things like facts, insight, logic, common sense tend to come across as sacrilegious to those that blindly follow something written 2000 years ago by a bunch of men.
Remember, God didn't fax the bible to mankind...it was written by a bunch of men wanting to control the masses. And for the past 2000 they did just that. But people are getting smarter and they know they're myths. It's dying out.
Thank God!
Re:...a great book if you haven't read it. (Score:2)
"Yes, things like facts, insight, logic, common sense tend to come across as sacrilegious to those that blindly follow something written 2000 years ago by a bunch of men...[the bible] was written by a bunch of men wanting to control the masses."
Those fishermen? Was that what they were trying to do, control the world? Is that why they all died gruesome deaths?
Here's something really interesting: I know of people who accept novels as historical authority!
You really sound like you know what you're tal
Re:...a great book if you haven't read it. (Score:2, Flamebait)
How else could you control dirt poor people except by telling them you hold the key to their everlasting lives. Their immortal souls.
This crap actually has grown people beliving that there's this invisible man...and he lives in the sky! And he watches everything you do 24/7...every second, every act you do. And he has this list of 10 rules (with one being that you have to believe
Re:...a great book if you haven't read it. (Score:1)
>Yes, things like facts, insight, logic, common sense tend to come across as sacrilegious to those that blindly follow something written 2000 years ago by a bunch of men.
>Remember, God didn't fax the bible to mankind...it was written by a bunch of men wanting to control the masses. And for the past 2000 they did just that. But people are getting smarter and they know they're myths. It's dying out.
Personally I tend to doubt people are getting smarter, m
Re:...a great book if you haven't read it. (Score:2)
Yes, the long long long written lecture during the car chase was a bit much. I personally thought it was just an "ok" book. Certainly not worthy of all the praise that people heap on it.
Also, there wasn't anything new I learned there that I didn't know before. Not that I gleen my beliefs from novels...even ones written 2000 years ago.
Re:...a great book if you haven't read it. (Score:1)
The bible is a collection of writings from 40 different authors... now, these authors lived in different eras spanning some 1500 years, as well as in different areas all over the middle east, and in different languages (Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek). It is inaccurate to say that these men wanted to control the masses. What future men did in, for example, the Catholic church may be different, but th
Re:...a great book if you haven't read it. (Score:2)
Re:...a great book if you haven't read it. (Score:1)
Interpretation is the key. The Bible, like other influential literature, has been read and understood in different ways through-out its history. Christian merchants in the roman empire did not use their readings of the bible to control the masses. Those masses were largely not christian but various pre-christian pagan religions depending on the region.
By the time Christianity became an official state religion anywhere it had long ago been written, edited, interpreted and reinterpreted.
Fortunately for the
Re:...a great book if you haven't read it. (Score:2)
My take on it, desperate people trying desperatly to hang on to outdated ideas. Whenever these people try to argue something, they have to nitpick instead of looking at the overall picture. For instance that site says:
The implied view being addressed - that "the Bible arrived by fax from heaven" or "dropped out of the clouds" - is a tendentious straw man. The Bible was composed by men, yes, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. It is never claimed, ho
Re:...a great book if you haven't read it. (Score:1)
The writing itself is atrocious -- it seems to be aimed at the reading level of a rather slow third-grader. It constantly uses a silly suspense gimmick, asking a question (literally, in dialog -- no subtlety here, folks!) and then postponing the answer for a few chapters while the author cuts away to some other action. As ineptly as
Re:...a great book if you haven't read it. (Score:2)
Unfortunately, it was the second Dan Brown book I read-- if you know anything about computers, cryptography, or the internet, try to get through Digital Fortress [amazon.com] without trying to tear it in half.
Amazing (Score:5, Insightful)
I know Amazon did this first, but I love to see Google taking up the idea. Google is simply my favorite company in the world. They don't take crap from (mostly) anyone, and they run Linux across the board. They are an undeniable force.
It may be risky, but I for one will be investing in Google the moment they release their stock. This is a terrific company and the people that are running it are terrifically smart!
Re:Amazing (Score:2)
THen again I am a bit biased because I'm working on a searching product.
Re:Amazing (Score:1, Insightful)
Would it be OK if Microsoft had stolen the idea?
I'm not amazed (Score:2)
It would be amazing if publishered allowed web users to read the content online. But they don't. You can only search it.
The Google Print FAQ has some vague prose about "experimenting with online content", but no specifics beyond this little search experiment. Which just duplicates a similar feature at Amazon. Bringing the Google search engine to bear isn't that big a deal -- what use is page ranking when nobody can directly link the pages?
It
Re:I'm not amazed (Score:2)
Re:Amazing (Score:1)
Re:Amazing (Score:1)
Interesting for now, but when do we get a d.l.? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Interesting for now, but when do we get a d.l.? (Score:1)
I don't know about you, but my library has lots of books that were printed after 1923... course maybe your library is different.
Excerpt? (Score:5, Insightful)
This would be a really useful service if they could distinguish between the books that have *actual* excerpts and those which just had descriptions, TOCs, etc.
little useful info = advertising (Score:3, Informative)
That qualifies as advertising. If that happens often, I won't bother to look at them.
so cut out the advertising... (Score:2)
in your search, like this:
Search for Book without Google Print [google.com]
Re:little useful info = advertising (Score:2)
Here's how to print Amazon's book search (Score:5, Informative)
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That's it. Really simple.
Wow how useful 53 books (Score:5, Interesting)
But it is an interesting idea. And might yield more useful results for information seeing as the bar for publishing a book is a little higher than getting a webpage listed in google.
Where are you getting 52/53? (Score:1, Interesting)
558 books? (Score:1)
Re:Wow how useful 53 books (Score:1)
Re:Wow how useful 53 books (Score:2)
Another day... (Score:3, Funny)
333 Books including... (Score:1)
"Using full-color photos from Star Wars: Episode II, I Am a Jedi Apprentice explains to younger fans what it's like to be a Jedi apprentice."
I don't care about ads to buy crap books online. I wish someone would do something about making available books that AREN'T available for sale any more instead.
A better example book excerpt (Score:2)
Re:A better example book excerpt (Score:1)
Re:A better example book excerpt (Score:1)
And if you have read it? (Score:1, Redundant)
Just to note (Score:3, Insightful)
Agreed (Score:2)
Re:Author doesn't know squat (Score:1)
Re:Author doesn't know squat (Score:2, Informative)
speculate on future google features (Score:1, Insightful)
used to be dejanews. Google answers, google taskbar (includes pop up
blocker), image search, catalogue.
What could google add in the future? It has to be add supported,
not upset their current advertisers and be somthing they could do well.
Look out iTunes et al if google ever starts selling music.
Google movies if the MPAA ever descided to sell films online
for a resonable cost.
Google instant messenger.
Defective Large Print Edition (Score:5, Funny)
Won't someone build a good search engine? (Score:1)
Re:Won't someone build a good search engine? (Score:1)
Brilliant for research (Score:3, Interesting)
They were not as detailed as this or as comprehensive but if this actually gets going, it will be an incredible aid to researchers. Currently, only about a small percentage of the information I use is on the web. Most of it is in libraries and research collections and is difficult to access.
This will provide information on which books and papers (if periodicals are included) I need to start getting a hold of for my research.
Man, students these days have it easy!
Bible (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Bible (Score:2)
A list of the all the books... (Score:4, Informative)
Only 300 books ? (Score:1)
DVCode == bestSeller; (Score:1)
(actually, I'm happy to say she's been kicked off by the likes of Al Franken, Molly Ivins, and Michael Moore. go my friends!)
Where is GooglePorn (Score:1, Troll)
Re:Where is GooglePorn (Score:1)
Has anyone read The DaVinci Code? (Score:4, Informative)
It really is fascinating reading, like proclaiming that the Holy Grail, long thought to be a chalice (see Monty Python and the Holy Grail [imdb.com]) is actually the remains of Mary Magdalene, and the quest to find her remains and to pray by them. It also says that with Mary's remains, there are boxes of old documents with proof that the Church was involved in a conspiracy, made Mary out as whore when really she might have been Jesus's wife.
IMHO, I think this book was designed as a nonfiction book first (the story of Mary, etc) and then the fiction part was made up, so to help burn away the ire of the Catholic Church. I hear this book caused quite a stir in the Vatican. The thing that might have saved it was probably that it was styled as a fiction book.
If you want to read some interesting insights into the Catholic Church, read this book. If you're looking for a good fiction title, forget it. You're better off acquiring a copy of Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen [amazon.com] or something else from the classics.
Yes, yes. (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Yes, yes. (Score:2)
Yes, I know there are a lot of
I'll make sure to pick up one of Brown's books the next time I'm in the library.
Re:Yes, yes. (Score:2)
Too many techno-dorks are wrapped up in detail. There's something called "suspending disbelief," where you relax and forgive some of the details to enjoy it and actually HAVE A GOOD TIME READING. It's not perfect, but you know what? Geek authors tend to make shitty novelists and vice versa.
The book is great. It's got errors. But it's still a fun story, even if the plot is semi-predictable and the characters are characicatures.
Re:Has anyone read The DaVinci Code? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Has anyone read The DaVinci Code? (Score:2)
I don't claim to know these
Re:Has anyone read The DaVinci Code? (Score:3, Funny)
We could start with the assencion... As the theory is stated in DaVinci Code, the Magdalene hypothesis requires that Jesus live substantially beyond the resurrection and father a family with Magdalene. More to the point... It would be theologically interesting to suppose that Jesus was really a woman, or that he was really had purple ha
Re:Has anyone read The DaVinci Code? (Score:2)
Arguing or discussing religion logically is silly, given that it's rooted in faith. It's all theory.
Re:Has anyone read The DaVinci Code? (Score:2)
As the theory is stated in DaVinci Code, the Magdalene hypothesis requires that Jesus live substantially beyond the resurrection and father a family with Magdalene.
So, then, you obviously haven't read the book, because it "requires" nothing of the sort; the statement in the book is that MM was already pregnant at the time of the crucifixion, and fled the holy land afterward, accompanied by Jesus' uncle. It's heart-warming to see that your academic credentials enable you to critique a book you've never
Re:Has anyone read The DaVinci Code? (Score:2)
I would expect it to be self-evident that a flip conversation on /. does not conform to the same rules as a research paper. If I *were* writing a research paper on DC (who would bother?) I would have re-read the book much more carefully. But, in case you haven't noticed, /. is not a research for
Re:Has anyone read The DaVinci Code? (Score:1)
Dismantling The Da Vinci Code [ewtn.com]
Re:Has anyone read The DaVinci Code? (Score:2)
Unlikely. The basic conspiracy theory has been being spread around for at least 800 years now, and you can buy self-proclaimed nonfiction like "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" and "Bloodline of the Holy Grail" and similar nonsense from Amazon or in your local bookstore.
Re:Has anyone read The DaVinci Code? (Score:1)
Re:Has anyone read The DaVinci Code? (Score:2)
Close, its based on a conspiracy theory book called Holy Blood Holy Grail which makes the same assertations about Jebus. I think HBHG continues on to say that the bloodline of the kings of Europe are based on the children of Jebus and sexy Mary.
The Da Vinci code really just adds a fictional framework to this old conspiracy and frankly a xtian conspiracy theory thriller sounds as exciting as a day in Church. Interesting how well its selling in A
not so great. (Score:1)
Can't wait.... (Score:2, Funny)
Da Vinci Code = hackneyed (Score:1)
For the real thing, you want to check out Umberto Eco's The Name Of The Rose (the book, not the film).
The Davinci Code (Score:2)
Re:The Davinci Code (Score:2)
Give me a break (Score:2)
Re:Give me a break (Score:2)
I'm not at all religious and have not read the books so I can't really argue with yo
Re:Give me a break (Score:2)
Re:Give me a break (Score:2)
What I'm trying to say is that you believe what you read in the bible because you already believe to begin with. What makes those stories more true than greek, roman, or norse mythology, or scientology and rasta
Re:Give me a break (Score:2)
Well, for starters I don't think that much of Classical mythology was ever taken to be historical, even by most adherents of those religions. At least, that is what I've always been told. It comes down to question of intent - there's no reason to think that Hom
Questia has done something similar for years... (Score:3, Interesting)
They use an indexing system similar to Google's to keep full-text searches of the library in the sub 1 second range, and the whole thing is pretty slick. Searches are free, and they show the book, publishing info, and the page number of the search result. To actually see the text, though, you have to be a subscriber.
Footnotes and citations are live-linked to their referenced sources, if those sources are in the Questia library, and every book is stored in XML, which keeps the original pagination (including illustrations). A neat side-effect of the XML tagging is that you can search for implicit things (like themes or genre or subgenre) as well as explicit things (keywords). Questia spent the better part of two years securing the rights of each and every book on the service, but it really is a cool idea.
Disclaimer--I worked for Questia for a couple of years, although I left in 2001.
numeraries? (Score:1)
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Online Books (Score:2)
Only idiots like the DaVinc Code (Score:2)
Da Vinci Code may be written well but ... (Score:1)
The scary thing is that many intelligent persons (like many who frequent
Please read the following for a closer and harder look at the "research" behind the Da Vinci Code . .
Dismantling The Da Vinci Code [crisismagazine.com]
Re:Da Vinci Code may be written well but ... (Score:2)
Internet in "not omniscient" shocker (Score:2)
From the article:
I hope nobody needs to have that pointed out to them! Nice to see that Google's taking a hand in making it slightly less true, though.
*yawn* (Score:1)
Re:The Da Vinci Code.... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:The Da Vinci Code.... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:REALLY OLD NEWS (Score:2)
2003-12-18 15:55:29 google indexes books (articles,internet) (rejected)