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Comment Re: Just conserving energy (Score 1) 73

Not sure what you mean by 680 watts. 17 seconds at 40 watts is 17/3600 * 40 = 0.18 watt hours.

He actually meant 17 seconds * 40 watts = 680 joules, not watts.

No, I meant exactly what I said. If the query uses as much power as running a 40-Watt light bulb for 17 seconds, but it takes only about one second to respond to the query, then that's the equivalent of drawing 680 Watts during that one second.

And to be clear, that 680 Watts would presumably be the sum of all the multiple servers involved in responding to the query, the network switches, the routers, etc. It sounds high to me, but it isn't entirely implausible.

Comment Re: Just conserving energy (Score 1) 73

Not sure what you mean by 680 watts. 17 seconds at 40 watts is 17/3600 * 40 = 0.18 watt hours.

He actually meant 17 seconds * 40 watts = 680 joules, not watts.

No, I meant exactly what I said. If the query uses as much power as running a 40-Watt light bulb for 17 seconds, but it takes only about one second to respond to the query, then that's the equivalent of drawing 680 Watts during that one second.

Comment Re:Well, duh (Score 1) 56

Some cards offer an interest free period, in which case there's absolutely no reason to pay more than the minimum payment even if you can. You can earn interest from that money somewhere else during the interest free period on the card, and then pay off the card when the interest free period ends.

The caveat, of course, is that if you screw up and accidentally miss a payment, you likely get hit hard with interest, so this can be risky. Also, if you can't pay it off at the end of the interest-free period because you didn't plan for that well enough, again, you get hurt badly. So it's a calculated risk.

Comment Re:No shit, Sherlock (Score 1) 108

"Starlink is able to pay for itself, and doesn't need subsidies to provide service. Wireless ISPs are going to suck no matter what,"

You know Starlink is wireless, right? SO profit and suckiness are different things. Is Starlink usable and sufficient for most users?

Feel free to define 'usable' and 'sufficient' in a way that renders Starlink inadequate, but your low-end terrestrial ISP is excused.

By wireless, I of course meant cellular (and point-to-point wireless, to some extent), not LEO satellites. That said, the same limitations that make traditional wireless ISPs suck also affect Starlink; they're just not serving nearly as many subscribers, and their subscribers are far less mobile, and mount permanent antennas outdoors, all of which make a huge difference. But still, those limitations will eventually start to be a problem.

Starlink's main problem (and, indeed, the main problem with wireless ISPs in general) is the ability to scale to a large number of users per unit of area. There's only so much spectrum. At some point, as the number of customers increases, bandwidth per customer decreases.

Right now, with O(2M) users in the U.S., Starlink service is still good enough for most people, meeting the minimum legal bandwidth threshold for broadband (100 megabit down/ 20 megabit up) for downloads most of the time, in most places, but not always, and not in all places. And apparently it averages only about half the minimum for upload speeds, on average. Now ask yourself if it makes sense for the government to subsidize adding another 2 million people, which would likely mean halving the speed.

Also, paying to put in fiber objectively increases available bandwidth for decades, and possibly centuries. Even if paying money to subsidize Starlink results in an increase in the number of satellites launched, the satellites last only about five years, so unless the government is willing to spend that money repeatedly, any gains are likely to be very temporary.

Like I said, Starlink is great, and I love that it exists. It has a lot of uses, and it has the potential to revolutionize a lot of things, like Internet service on airplanes and cruise ships, Internet service in RVs, cellular phone service out in the middle of nowhere, and so on. And it can be good enough for basic Internet service right now, given the current subscriber base. It can probably handle a decent number of additional people in rural areas without causing too much trouble. But it can never realistically be a solution for the problem of poor urban neighborhoods having massively worse service than rich suburban neighborhoods, because it just can't handle enough customers per square mile, and that is unlikely to change in the near future. That makes it not a great choice if you're trying to figure out how to spend limited subsidy money, unless your only goal is to cover rural areas, and it probably doesn't make sense to do that, because they'll get decent Starlink service even without the government subsidizing it.

Comment Re:Because smoking isn't the only cause of cancer (Score 1) 63

RADON. I think it was the #2 cause (not many breath in specific chemicals which would each get it's own classification and therefore not be close to radon.)
It leaks into your house and you don't know it. It is random; it can go away at random as the random pockets of the gas seep up from the ground.

Add to this the many forms of cancer some of which are so slow you'll die before it becomes a serious problem.

Comment Re: Just conserving energy (Score 0) 73

Both numbers seem wrong. If a search query would be equivalent to "17 seconds light" (what a stupid unit for energy), Google would be doing something extremely wrong. Just try to extrapolate to the number of queries per second Google receives. The AI number is off by a similar amount, I think. There was once the number of 10 times a usual search query (matches the numbers here roughly), but the search query is extremely cheap.

17 seconds * 40 watts = 680 watts for a one-second search query. Realistically, that's probably the power used by the entire computer during that second, and there are probably multiple threads on multiple processors, so that's probably off by a single-digit factor, but it doesn't seem entirely implausible.

No idea for the AI number.

Comment Re:Well, duh (Score 0) 56

Why would you only make the minimum payment on a credit card? You shouldn't charge more on a card than you can pay off at the end of the month. Their interest rates are usurious. If you need to borrow more money than that, take a personal loan.

And the whole point of BNPL is spreading out the charges enough that you can afford to pay that amount every month. If you're not able to do that, then you shouldn't have made the purchase.

Comment Re:I predict Republicans will avoid this thread (Score 1) 108

They only then become "independents" because Republicans are so brainwashed they never convert to anything else. I've also rarely met an "independent" who isn't just too cowardly or ashamed to admit they are still a Republican but did some independent thinking for a short time period. I think this is because their culture is not accepting of too much deviation of thought (aka diversity;) when you break from the dictated party line you have to leave until things calm down, then all is forgotten and the hidden identity can come out again. Like how racists just go into hiding; even from themselves, until it's ok to peak out a bit.
Look how open their identity has been for the last few decades to the point they created the term "RINO" to shame and attack non-conformists. Then Trump's marketing psychology hijacked their identity and the rest just follow...few see the strategy of his use of RINO even if they are old enough to see the irony.

Comment Re:No shit, Sherlock (Score 4, Interesting) 108

At first, we had just about everyone from every Major Telco ISP's to Mom and Pop WISP's bidding out underserved areas. then the rules change so that it could only be 1GBPS fiber to the home to qualify. This kills Starlink, the Cell Providers and all of the WISP's.

For good reason, to be fair. Starlink is able to pay for itself, and doesn't need subsidies to provide service. Wireless ISPs are going to suck no matter what, and no amount of subsidization will make it not suck. If you want bang-for-the-buck, you want fiber, because that can keep being pushed to faster and faster limits as technology improves, without changing the fundamental medium. Right now, I think the state of the art over a single fiber is one terabit. So we have three orders of magnitude of growth potential without any changes other than to the hardware at the two ends of that fiber.

Contrast that with celluar technology, where pushing speeds to orders of magnitude more than we have now can only realistically be achieved by massively increasing the tower density and, as a result of having more towers, also massively increasing the cost of every future hardware upgrade going forwards.

Starlink is a neat party trick. It can help with a lot of things, like providing service where it isn't really feasible, providing service to your RV, providing cell service in the Mojave Desert, etc., but it can't realistically ever be the ISP for the entire country, because you can't realistically put that many birds in the sky.

So fiber is the only plausible solution that is forward-looking and provides room for future expansion. Everything else is just wasting money, frankly.

Then the commission required that all bidders must hire union labor and pay a prevailing wage, which killed all of the cable Co's willing to run fiber and all but the most determined Telco's who were already paying union wages.

Meh. Part of the point of that program was to provide jobs with decent pay. That's not really so unreasonable, is it? The real question is why the cable companies aren't willing to spend the extra few bucks to hire union labor for running their cables, in exchange for government subsidies.

Actually, no, the real question is why local governments didn't put in bids to build out municipal fiber networks that they could lease in a nondiscriminatory fashion to the cable company, the phone company, a dozen mom-and-pop telcos, etc. to provide the actual service to customers. This approach works way better than letting large monopolies or oligopolies get more power.

Then Trump gets elected and the commission panics, So all of the rules change again. All of a sudden the FTTP provision gets axed. Now all of the Cell providers are back in bidding for areas and are undercutting the Telco's which now bail because of all the BS, Then the Union and 1GBPS requirement gets rescinded, which now brings Starlink, CableCo's and every Mom and Pop Wisp's back into bidding.

And at that point, it's just corporate welfare, and serves no real purpose.

Meanwhile, we get a call from a consortium of counties that wants to start a municipal fiber initiative because they think it will look better to the commission (IE attract more politicians to suck the commission's lower appendage harder) and get approved faster. We ask who is going to maintain it. We get shrugs and then "Well, all of the ISPs who will flock to sell service on it that we contract!", then shrugs again. Ultimately it falls through once they realize that maintenance is expensive and no one wants to be on the hook for it.

And yet that's literally the only thing the government legitimately should be spending money on in this space. Every attempt to do this through private business fails. Every single time. Municipal fiber works. If you do it right (read "underground"), fiber requires very little maintenance except when somebody digs up a line, and then they're on the hook for paying the repair cost.

And don't even get me started with pole rights. If you always wondered why every FiberCo and CableCo use Ditch Witches and Lawn Fridges instead of pole lines, It's because its much MUCH cheaper and faster.

No, that's not it at all. Lines underground, assuming they are correctly marked and are at an adequate depth, typically last for decades. Lines on poles get broken by ice, falling limbs, lightning strikes, etc. There's just a lot more maintenance when you hang wires on poles.

Pole rights is a trivially solvable problem. You just pass one touch make ready laws. The fact that you don't have these is prima facie evidence of regulatory capture, and you should elect better representatives next time around. But for the most part, unless you live on bedrock, putting lines on poles is probably the wrong thing to do, so it probably isn't worth bothering to fix it at this point.

Comment Re: No shit, Sherlock (Score 3, Insightful) 108

I think the parent's original point is this. Was the policy working and was it fiscally wise?

A policy of setting goals for the industry and rating them based on how well they met those goals? Well, I can't say for sure whether it was working, but putting blinders on and saying things are going great sure can't work better than having actual data, that's for sure.

Did the policy have positive impact?

To a limited extent, sure. The problem is that as long as the FCC is a political football — as long as Republicans don't actually care whether the poor have access to acceptably fast Internet service — the industry will generally not care much what the rules are, believing that the next guy will just overturn them.

If the policy under Biden was not working, not being implemented, or was not fiscally wise, then why continue it? If it was working and was having a positive impact, then it should have been continued. Maybe I am wrong in my interpretation.

It would have been continued, were it not for the fact that the Republicans tend to pick people for the commission that are basically poster children for regulatory capture.

I don't have an answer either way. I don't know enough about what policies were in place and what policies were specifically ended. I have found both public wifi networks to be extremely beneficial and sometimes they appear to be a waste of money. It all depends on how they are implemented. Just like a lot of other public services. My guess is broadband falls in the same category...

In this case, the policies amount to requiring broadband coverage to show that they cover every house in a region, not just the wealthy houses, and that they provide service that meets certain minimum criteria for speed to every house, not just the wealthy houses.

The industry doesn't like to do this. They'd rather spend upgrade money on wealthy households, where they can milk them for higher profit margins, and never upgrade the service to poorer areas, even if they're willing to pay the money, because not enough people in the poorer areas will pay extra for service.

And from a business perspective, that behavior is understandable. But from a public policy perspective, it is problematic, particularly when it results in poor neighborhoods being stuck with, for example, ADSL at five megabit while three blocks away, there's gigabit fiber for not a lot more money.

Comment Re:So California wants to suck up the power, water (Score 1) 186

So California wants to suck up the power from out of state like they do the water !! Just say no to them !!!

Arizona and Nevada have plenty of sunny deserts for making electricity.

They can't make more water.

Actually, by putting down solar panels as covers over aqueducts used for the water supply, they can effectively make electricity and make more water (by reducing evaporation) at the same time.

Comment Re:Yes (Score 1) 186

PG&E does NOT work well for those not using much electricity. Their base rate where I live is 49 cents/KWH. Our nearby cities that have their own electric companies pay less than half of that. We seldom go beyond the second tier of rates and our electric bill approaches $300/month most of the time. Also it's not who "generates the electricity" that's getting most of the money. It's who owns the lines and PG&E owns most of the lines in the Central and Northern part of the state.

This. Want to know why EV sales have died in California over the last year? Just look at the cost per kWh and compare it with gas prices. PG&E average yearly rates have doubled since 2022. Meanwhile, the cost of gasoline has gone down. It is now fiscally irresponsible to drive an EV unless either you have solar power or someone else is paying for your electricity (employer, unlimited supercharging, etc.). Hybrids are not only cheaper up front, but also likely cheaper to operate at this point.

California should have allower PG&E to go bankrupt a few years ago, bought it for pennies on the dollar, and begun operating it as a government-owned corporation. There's no excuse for the power rates that we're seeing when most other states are paying literally a quarter of what we do.

PG&E is bad for our pocketbooks and bad for the environment.

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