Huh? I'm confused then by what you are trying to argue here. I gave a list of examples which were hard to reconcile with the claim that these systems were just " just really really fancy search engines that regurgitate what they have ingested." You then switched to asking about practicality and useful pay off. Another user, ceoyoyo said you were moving goalposts. You then made a comment that this was instead "progress," and I'm having trouble figuring out what you meant. And I'm still pretty puzzled, since despite your claims here, you haven't given any reason in this discussion to think reality is any way whatsoever. If you think my examples don't show that these are not just regurgitating the data in their training sets, then please explain why, because I'm not seeing any argument for it here. If you think that solving math problems that have been open for 40 to 70 years counts as just regurgitation, then it seems likely that you are using a notion of regurgitation which would include the AI doing almost anything.

I'm not sure why you think I have done this, or that I'm a bot. You can easily check that my Slashdot account has been around for well before there was any issue of "bots" on the internet. Heck, you can go through my profile and check that my writing style hasn't changed much in the last decade or so. (And you might even recall I've had conversations with you before here on a wide variety of topics.) I didn't downmod any of your comments, and I'm not sure why you think I would have. I will comment that given how many people seem to really dislike you on Slashdot (admittedly it may just be one or two very obsessed people and I'm not sure what you've done to arouse their ire that you have these ACs constantly following you around) I don't see why you wouldn't just assume one of them went and used some mod points. I don't have any alts, and if I did, there are a lot of people I'd be burning points on before I got to you, since you are normally marginally reasonable and civil, even if I've disagreed with you on a bunch of things in the past. But I'd really rather focus on the specific claim at hand that the AIs are merely regurgitating. Can you explain why you are convinced of that and how that plays out? And again please note that's distinct from any question about usefulness or practicality, or whether they are worth the tradeoffs.

There's a simpler explanation. The reef is named BSD. :-)

I doubt these purported robotaxis are capable of dealing with I-4 in the daily 3PM toad strangler.

That's true, but in this case, we also have Hugging Face who would be able to contradict Altman if he were lying. This really looks like this is exactly what happened. A model broke out of a sandbox with a goal of hacking a specific target and then partially succeeded at that. I'm not sure what you would find more convincing than that than that as the next step. To people need to be hurt in order for the risk to be recognized?

Sounds like Tesla is A/B testing their safety driver/person. Maybe the one on the passenger side doesn't actually have to know how to drive, or even have a license, just be able push a button. Which one sounds less expensive? Noting that simply pushing a "kill switch" won't help in an accident avoidance situation...

Is the person/committee who picked the newer private New Tab colors literally blind or just colorblind? They're horrible.

Does that mean that we're now in agreement that "systems aren't creative they're just really really fancy search engines that regurgitate what they have ingested" is not an accurate assessment then?

If you want "as dumb as possible", the search keyword for that is "static site generator". Then you can redirect /wp-admin/ to Automattic's front page.

With the exception of the Jacobian conjecture, none of these have any practical applications. But it is mistake to think that these problems were not solved previously due there not being any "good reason" to solve them. All of these were well known problems where major mathematicians had worked on them. Erdos 1196 was a problem which saw a lot of work by Jared Lichtman who is one of the leading young number theorists now. The other problems are even more so. Both the unit distance problem and the double cycle cover conjecture were problems that had many mathematicians work on, and the Jacobian conjecture is a problem where many people have had partial results about it and where people have spent years solving special cases.

The rest of your post isn't on the topic in question, but is about broader issues with AI, which may be valid, and may be worth discussing. There's no question that there are some pretty serious negatives. To use one personally annoying example, my spouse works in a library and she has to deal with trying to explain to patrons that just because ChatGPT said a book exists doesn't mean the book is real. But the point of my comment remains focusing on the claim that these systems are " aren't creative they're just really really fancy search engines that regurgitate what they have ingested." That's not accurate, and the results in math show that. And if we are going to understand these systems, both their positives and negatives, we need to understand their capabilities.

Are we still saying this? These systems have solved a wide variety of open math problems some of which were borderline famous. Erdos 1196 https://www.erdosproblems.com/1196 was one of the first. Then the Unit Distance Conjecture https://arxiv.org/abs/2605.20695 . Then the Double Cycle Cover Conjecture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_double_cover. And now most recently, one of these systems came up with a counterexample to the Jacobian conjecture https://mathoverflow.net/a/513385/127690, a conjecture which is old and famous enough that I've literally talked about it in class when I've taught linear algebra. At least in pure math, these capabilities are well beyond being mere regurgitation. It is likely that's the case in other fields as well, and this is just one where it is slightly easier (due to the completely self-contained nature of the problems and the nature of mathematics) and where it is easier to see that it really has done something notable.

People still develop new games for the Master System (which uses a Z80), the Genesis (which uses a Z80 as a sound coprocessor), and especially the Game Boy (whose Sharp SM83 CPU isn't exactly a Z80 but is similar). And they're selling these games both as ROM filess on itch.io and as cartridges.

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Free speech includes lying.

Well, the next step seems to be claiming that mandatory nutrition labels on food is a violation of free speech.

I don't know of any hybrid vehicles ever available with a manual transmission, so you're trying to compare the efficiency of ICE vehicles vs. hybrid vehicles not manual vs automatic/CVT transmissions. Engine/motors and transmissions aren't the same things. :-)