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Comment Re: Eh, well, why not? (Score 1) 187

These relate to the experience of gender. All of us experience what gender is to us, manifest in obvious through very subtle sensation and navigation through a normal day.

There are primary and secondary hormones that are pretty obvious in how they manifest from conception through puberty. Some people don't get the right doses, according to what might be termed a "normal" life cycle through those 23+ years.

This happens during periods of stress, malnutrition, trauma, the reasons can be many. A dose or two is missed, or conversely, overly-expressed for same/similar reasons.

A sufficient body of research evidence demonstrates that the brain will develop differently based on doses rendered through that period.

Let's go back to the perception by each individual of their gender and gender identity. This is a mixture of physical manifestation, perception of gender association (and therefore also, rejection). These have varying degrees of identity strength.

I'm also leaving out physiological mismatch, where hermaphrodite physiological manifestation enters into play, or ovaries found in men, or manifestations of other-gender physiology. That's not in the picture I'm describing; not enough data exists for evidence of trends in this discussion, which focuses on hormonal dose periods from conception through adult maturity.

The King of Atlantis is not real, but gender dysphoria is real, documented, and exists, just as varying degrees of sexual attractiveness preference exists, and is all around us.

It wasn't self-hypnosis, self-deception. There are those that feel that they are not their gender assigned at birth, and it's real to them, and therefore, it's a reality for them. This dysphoria is difficult for those experiencing it, because it's out of the norm. It's real to them, and has physiological and psychological origins.

Before the gender dysphoric are permitted to surgically affirm an alternate gender, it's requisite, at least in the USA, to go through quite a bit of psychological testing to ensure that the origins of the dysphoria doesn't have origins in other neurosis or psychosis, or physical manifestation in hormone over-expression.

The shape of the brain is a data point to help people understand that the sentiments and expression of dysphoria have real origins in physio-psychological realities; what they feel is real to them, and we're not necessarily the gender assigned at birth; that XX or XY at birth indeed can go sideways from "the norm" and create individuals who are gender-different from the norm.

In rare cases, the dysphoria can be detected as a physiological problem and "corrected" to strengthen the desired gender identity of an individual. Hormone replacement, augmentation, tumor removal, and more can be used to strengthen gender identity. Far more often than not, there's no physiological problem-- and it's not often a psychological problem, either-- although it can be. Every individual is different.

Some gender dysphoria comes at the hand of sexual trauma. And there is a preponderance of those with gender identity needs that has neither a physiological or psychological origin. None at all. Somehow, their body gender needs modifications to match their minds.

Much media furor has injected fabulousness and worse into the discussion, with instinctive reaction instead of skepticism and advocacy where it's needed. If an individual faces gender dysphoria, their lives can become very difficult because of the instinctive rejection they're subject to, and the hostility of those that can't accept them in what appears to be a non-normal societal role.

Comment Re: Eh, well, why not? (Score 1) 187

Let's take a base XX or XY pair. Given an equal distribution of hormonal dosing from conception through puberty (ending at roughly age 23), That brain goes through well-known, periodic hormonal doses as it develops.

It's proven that given high/low/absent doses through these regular periods, the brain's shape will turn out measurably different in size.

Additionally, primary and secondary sexual characteristics will express until the initial adult phase manifests.

This means that there are 17 different types of brains possible, this having been measured with a good S=. What can be learned from this is that given no other anatomical influences, the same brain can have 17 diff outcomes. In terms of other anatomical expression, there are other variations. These variations in combination with neurological expression then comprise different people from the same gene pairs.

How are they different people? They know no differently, just as you're sure of your own body, sexuality, perhaps mental state.

The dysphoria manifests in different ways, often social comparison, but additionally sexual attraction, sexual sense of being, These brains and bodies are different combinations. Measured against attraction, sense of being, and the basic instinct of sexual interaction, dysphoria can ensue. People desire to live in their sense of dignity, and that extends to sexual identity. A clear number of apparently male and female people believe their gender is different from their anatomical appearance.

For them, they're right. And we're right to believe them. Denying this amounts to a mistake on the part of the observer. Socially, this may be a grievous mistake, if one believes in civility.

Comment Re: Eh, well, why not? (Score 1) 187

I have plentiful neurological research references to backup what I contend. You perceive your gender in your brain and body. The experience of gender dysphoria is real for those that experience this. It's provable and has been proven that differing hormonal doses from the same base XY or XX set produce differently shaped brains. It's real.

It's not a rationalization, it's a reality for those that sense this. What and how they deal with it in various cultures has a historical basis that's part lore, and part documentation of the individual, and those perceiving the effects on the individual.

Comment Re: Eh, well, why not? (Score 1) 187

Go deeper.

Understand the hormonal doses, and what they do, from conception through late puberty. What happens when they're out of norm. How this forms up to seventeen different brain types from the same 23 pairs of chromosomes-- and that's IF these are normal XY or XX pairs.

Brain and body sex are threaded, and the hormonal doses you get from conception through age 23 can alter the path of how you sense your gender. A standard issue XY, as an example, can have brain-development-altering consequences from the numerous normal doses of hormone mixtures as that XY person grows. XX is similar, if with fewer found permutations. And that's for normal pairs.

Abnormal pairs are another tangent. Neurodiversity caused by other factors will amplify perceived alteration in the standard variance of hormones.

The tl;dr is it's not that easy. People who sense dysphoria really feel it. Other people can't feel it, and have no context to understand the possible permutations through these cycles. XX and XY are just the starting points towards gender development and subsequent identity.

Comment Re:Eh, well, why not? (Score 1) 187

In one glib post, you dun thousands of researchers, not to mention those that don't fit a mold of strictly male and female. It's not only science, but proven science. Open your eyes, please. Accept that there are people who are not like you. Their reality is not necessarily your context or experience. And yours, is not theirs.

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