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Comment Re:Good-but Enterprise only (Score 1) 144

Thanks for your reply

So basically you can opt out of the defered updates of delaying 3 to 4 months of updates to 10 like in the pro to 10 years. That can be a plus for certain industries like hospitals that need to have a certified FDA approved image.

Anything else? Especially for home users or even medium sized businesses for renting computers. I kind of like the idea of different channels like the pro where you can be 1 version behind with security or go older for just security updates.

Comment Re:For limited values of 'you'. (Score 1) 144

Alright I want examples. If I am going to consult I can save customers money by using the pro version.

It seems slashdot as the last 5 years is turning into Stalins saying of repeat a lie enough and it will be truth. I see no reason why the enterprise version has more features.

From what I read here from slashdotters the pro version has no GPO support whatsoever, all commercials that take up full screen ads, all updates forced with no settings, etc. I have news? I own 10 pro! I see nothing of the sorts other than tinfoil hats getting +5s.

Yes the appstore puts on tiles that say try X and it yes I do not like the keystroke logger for telemetry. That bothers me! I have the ads off in settings in the pro and I defer updates for all but security by default and have a time set for when to install by default under 10 pro.

The only GPO out of 100 is a setting for a lock screen and disabling the telemetry. Big freaking deal.

I am open if I am wrong. I just hate the advice here that everyone needs to rent their own computers

Comment Re:Good-but Enterprise only (Score 1) 144

What is wrong with the pro version?

I keep seeing that repeated here but only thing I can find it typing history isn't recorded.

My thinking is home users desperately need something like this if it uses shielded VM's that is in hyper-v in server 2016 and Windows 10 anniversary edition as corporations have Junipers and Cisco devices configured for things like rejected spoofed IP addresses and rogue IP's pretending to be routers to poison DNS etc. Home based routers lack these options.

A network shielded VM can help for sure even if it does not eliminate all holes for bad javascript applets.

Comment Re:For real? (Score 1) 144

Edge != IE 6.

IE 8 and above had Chrome style security with sandboxing by default and lowrights mode in c:\users\user\%appdata% since 2009! No you did not misread that.

I still do not use Edge/IE 11 unless I am at work using a corporate site though :-)

But regardless people need to wake up that it is not 2004 anymore. Any browser that executes code needs to be in a VM sadly if you run from untrusted sources. Flash and javascript execute code which makes them insecure. Even with a sandbox and threading per process by each tab helps but it does not eliminate security risks regardless of browser.

A VM container that is hardened makes sense for any app that executes data sadly.

Comment Re:A VM is not security - idiots (Score 1) 144

Actually if it is hardened it can certainly help.

Windows 10 anniversary and server 2016 have safeguarded and hardened VM support in Hyper-V it calls shielded. I./O is limited accept through a layer and network hardening means it won't accept rogue IP addresses as routers which is a classic hacker scheme.

It is easy to spoof an IP address and advertise as a router to poison DNS as an example.

This would certainly help against this kind of attack.

Comment Re:For limited values of 'you'. (Score 1) 144

I am not a fanboy of WIndows 10 by a long shot but WIndows 10 pro does:
1. Have the ability to control Windows Updates including defer feature updates ala Debian style.
2. GPO support
3. Pro has the same Hyper-v and RDP options. If you go under settings go to developer mode to turn them on by default
4. IIS support
5. The ability to pick when updates are applied

Windows 7/8 have spyware too unless you want to be insecure. Chrome and your phone already do this anyway.

The only thing the enterprise edition has is to turn off spyware and appstore. For home use I see no reason to rent. I am not happy with 10, but besides the history tracking I see it no different than 8.

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