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Comment Re:Where's the payout for coders? (Score 1) 106

It's not just up to them, it's up to copyright law.
And why do you think you speak for all book authors over all time?

People like you think libraries should be shut down, fair use removed, and no one allowed to resell a book they read.
Literally the logical conclusion to your post.

Comment Re: Dictionaries Mysteriously Not Sued (Score 1) 106

Yes, it does in America. Please read US copyright code. fair use is a things. I can give you a used book for free, and you can read it and give it to someone else for free and so on. No copyright violation. Yu can access works for free through Libraries.
Copyright expires.

Comment Re:Dictionaries Mysteriously Not Sued (Score 1) 106

"f downloading massive torrents of pirated copies of books and processing them."
Downloading isn't piracy, please read copyright code.

" to generate new content, "
What a misleading phrase.

" much of which non-factual in nature,"
It's called Fiction. Your library has a whole section.

"and often very arguably explicitly creatively derivative."
Not really.. or no more then people who write.

prompt: "Make a story like sleeping beauty" ... 2 seconds later we have "The Moonlit Princess" and we'll just self-publish that on Amazon... boom I'm an author!

Make a story based on open content. that's bad.. why?

" just self-publish that on Amazon"
And that's bad, why?

"boom I'm an author!"
correct. and? also, you are the author of a work that can't be copyrighted.

"You seriously telling me this is NOT copyright infringement? "
It is not. Not be any definition is the infringement. It's a different telling. You are letting your hate of AI suppress your critical thinking.

"the prose above is a pretty blatant Disney ripoff."
No, it isn't. but guess what? people write is style similar all the time. It's not copyright infringement.

Comment Re: Good (Score 1) 106

" LLMs are doing everything that humans do, "
I don't think people say that' however when it comes to speech patterns, AI are like humans because its based on Zipf's law. Which shows people speak in a very predictable manner.

"LLMs need real thought,"
define "real thought" in a meaningful way. In fact, write a book to be celebrated as the first person to do that. In the mean time, stow your Scotsman.

" It's not because we're force-fed them in order to regurgitate them later. "
Well, we are as children. IF your parent give a damn, you are read books as a child.

No AI regurgitates a work. There is no example of AI repeating any work outside of fair use.

Comment Re:Good (Score 1) 106

"it's not the same way a human reads a novel."
its like a mother reading to a child, so the statement stands. Plus, it's not A novel.

" a human doesn't "train" on a novel, "
we absolutely do.

"implies learning to duplicate its structure"
Which is what children do.

"The only humans "training" on a novel and proceeding to write their own are what we call cut and dried plagiarists"
lol, no. Every thing you write is based on everything you read and learned. All humans.

Sitting in a librasy and writes a book bu cutting a word from all the other books is not copyright infringement, nor is it plagiarism. Plagiarism is an academic thing, not a legal thing. Just so you know.

Comment So we need to pay to read? (Score 1) 106

How is reading copyright infringement? It's no different then what AI is doing.
Also, copyright is about disturbing works. There is no record of any AI distributing works beyond fair use.

If I write a book by cutting the words out of a library full of books, it's not copyright infringement. Same with AI.

Bunch of people don't understand AI. these same writer probably rally against libraries.

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